Randy Marsh Nov 26, 2024 @ 10:41pm
CPU upgrade when?
Hey there!

I have an Ryzen 9 5900x.

I haven’t been up to date on parts lately.

Curious to know are there any worthwhile CPU upgrades that does both Gaming and Workstation?

Or not worth upgrading just yet?
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you may be interested in the 7950X3D but the 9950X3D might be better than it (should) when it releases
Last edited by 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei; Nov 26, 2024 @ 10:48pm
shiel Nov 27, 2024 @ 12:16am 
I would wait and see how the 9950x3d (assuming it's coming) handles multi core workloads. The 7950x3d had too many compromises and too much messing around to get it to work properly.
Rumpelcrutchskin Nov 27, 2024 @ 12:37am 
Don`t think you would need to worry about it for a while with 5900X. This should still hold up for quite a while.
Last edited by Rumpelcrutchskin; Nov 27, 2024 @ 12:37am
shiel Nov 27, 2024 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:
Don`t think you would need to worry about it for a while with 5900X. This should still hold up for quite a while.
Depends on use case and expectations. Even strictly for gaming at 4k assuming a 4090, a 9800x3d offers significant gains for 4k/high refresh.
R9 5900x will not need a proper AM5/6 upgrade until 2028/29 if you have a good GPU and such. :csd2smile:
Last edited by Phénomènes Mystiques; Nov 27, 2024 @ 12:48am
Schrute_Farms_B&B Nov 27, 2024 @ 2:37am 
Well, if were talking about an upgrade, this wouldnt only affect your CPU, since youve to switch to a different platform.
You would need to also upgrade your Mobo and Ram.

The most important question which you should ask yourself, is if its actually worth it?
That question can only be answered by you and nobody but you cause we dont know nothing about your expectations, preferences and specs (GPU?!). Sweet and short, we need a lot more infos.

I mean, what exactly makes you think you need to upgrade?
Are we talking about a bottleneck? If so, how did you determine it?

Without any more infos whatsoever, Id say youre better of with the 5800X3D than a 7800X3D, cause you dont have to upgrade your board and ram. Ive switched from a 5800X3D to a 7800X3D myself and it didnt change much. Better 1%s though and a few more % on avg FPS (7900XTX @1440p ultrawide)

edit:
Id say, if you HAVE to upgrade to another platform, look for a 9800X3D. Should be in stock after christmas.

edit II:
Regarding your question about a CPU for both workstation and gaming, Id choose a NON X3D model. Your current CPU does a pretty good job for this purpose. The 9900X should also be in stock.
Last edited by Schrute_Farms_B&B; Nov 27, 2024 @ 2:44am
Ontrix_Kitsune Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:04am 
The fastest processors that exist for sale today from either AMD or Intel are at best only +40% to +45% faster than what you have right now. An upgrade to support any of those newer processors would require you replace your motherboard, CPU, and buy new ram. If you're water cooled with either custom water loop or a AIO you'll have to buy a new AIO or water block as well.

At this point in time it's probably not worth the expense and time involved.
A&A Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:14am 
Not worth it?
Zen 3 to Zen 4 is a jump
But Zen 4 to Zen 5 is somewhat similar to what it was Zen 1 to Zen +
Last edited by A&A; Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:18am
Ontrix_Kitsune Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by A&A:
Not worth it?
Zen 3 to Zen 4 is a jump
But Zen 4 to Zen 5 is somewhat similar to what it was Zen 1 to Zen +
Well an upgrade from 5900X -> 9800 X3D would be about $1000 USD worth of hardware for only +45% gains at best. I don't know about you but for most people that wouldn't be worth it.

Well unless someone has disposable income to throw away on computer hardware. But if they had that then they would be upgrading every 6 months, probably they would also already be on a AM5 + 9800X3D platform by now, and also probably not asking this question in this thread.
Last edited by Ontrix_Kitsune; Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:33am
Tiberius Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:38am 
Wait for 9950x3d
mtono Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:44am 
i would buy a real fat gfx board--->all to teh max!!
De Hollandse Ezel Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:47am 
it is best to deciede how much you want to spend on hardware per month.

and than set an upgrade path from that.

if you say I want to buy a 1800 euro pc once every 3.5 years
and 600 euro worth of monitor, keyboard, mouse every 7 years.
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than it will cost 50 euro per month that you must dedicated set aside.
and than you can afford this path.

and at these time intervalls you buy your new stuff +/- a few months..
logically if a new series is about to be released like the geforce 5000 series you wait a little... and likewise often prices can be very high due shortages that might be over a few months later..
or the reverse people mass sell 4090s for 500 euro.. as they expect the 5000 series to be soooo much better.. that could be a perfect time to snach one even if its a few months before your official next new system.

generally you can sell a whole working old pc.. but seperate parts.. not so much.
a loose gpu yes.. so if you want you can put in your upgrade plan a gpu swap only..
and sell your older one..
but loose cpu's not so much.

you replace your cpu when your current one is no longer capable to support the gpu you want to buy.
-> this may be cause you buy a new system anyway,..
or
cause you want to do a gpu swap only.. but your current cpu bottlenecks it and manage to get a more powerfull cpu for your socket that can support it.

do remind while when you do a gpu swap.. you most likely will sell your old one easely..
but nobody ever buys loose cpus;; even complete sets of cpu+ motherboard+ram don't sell that well.
-> the only 2d hand cpu's people want is the best ever sold for their socket.. basicly people who bought a cheap cpu back than and now look to upgrade on a bargain.
->
if your cpu is not that.. than your old cpu is a writeoff.. do factor that in.
if your cpu IS that.. well than replacing your cpu means also replacing your motherboard.. and at that point I woud advise forgo the whole ordeal and juist sell old pc and build a brand new one.

so if your current cpu is not powerfull enough to supoport without bottleneck the new gpu you want but say an 5700x3d or 5800x3d is... and it fits on your current motherboard..

than buying that cpu + your new gpu might be a cheaper way to upgrade... than to buy a whole new system..

alternatively if your on a very old intel platform sometimes you can get very nice cpus like if you had an 5920 (cheapest x99 cpu).. and you can now buy a secondhand i7 6950x or xeon (forget modelnumber to lazy to look it up) 2d hand for little that might be a nice way to support your new 4070 without bottleneck.

so short story : you replace cpu when current one would bottleneck your new gpu.
-> whether that cpu replacement is also a full system replacement depends on situation.
Last edited by De Hollandse Ezel; Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:51am
A&A Nov 27, 2024 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Ontrix_Kitsune:
Well an upgrade from 5900X -> 9800 X3D would be about $1000 USD worth of hardware for only +45% gains at best. I don't know about you but for most people that wouldn't be worth it.

Well unless someone has disposable income to throw away on computer hardware. But if they had that then they would be upgrading every 6 months, probably they would also already be on a AM5 + 9800X3D platform by now, and also probably not asking this question in this thread.
I'm not saying to jump with the latest series or anything like that. Just an analogy that the AM5 platform still has bread to eat.

Talking about "Cpu upgrades that does both Gaming and Workstation?" is a very wide range... It's much easier and cheaper to max out AM4 by getting an R7 5700X3D for gaming, still slower but not as bad as this Ryzen 9, but the workstation factor suffers.
Last edited by A&A; Nov 27, 2024 @ 7:09am
De Hollandse Ezel Nov 27, 2024 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by A&A:
Originally posted by Ontrix_Kitsune:
Well an upgrade from 5900X -> 9800 X3D would be about $1000 USD worth of hardware for only +45% gains at best. I don't know about you but for most people that wouldn't be worth it.

Well unless someone has disposable income to throw away on computer hardware. But if they had that then they would be upgrading every 6 months, probably they would also already be on a AM5 + 9800X3D platform by now, and also probably not asking this question in this thread.
I'm not saying to jump with the latest series or anything like that. Just an analogy that the AM5 platform still has bread to eat.

Talking about "Cpu upgrades that does both Gaming and Workstation?" is a very wide range... It's much easier and cheaper to max out AM4 by getting an R7 5700X3D for gaming, still slower but not as bad. The workstation factor suffers.

again you pick a budget and a time table..

generally a new computer every 3, 3.5 or 4 years is fine
with about 900 needed for budget, 1800 for midend and 2400 for highend..
on top of that you will need once ever 2 computers a new monitor, mouse and keyboard (and perhaps headphones.. and it's sensible to spend 1/3d of that so 300 for budget, 600 for midend.. and 800 for highend.


if you want you can add in this plan an "gpu update" generally this is done halfway the pc's lifespan.
if you do this you may extend your pc's life to to 5 years.. and you do this gpu only update thus at the latest after 2.5 years but ofcourse it is possible to do it after 1.5 or 2 years if you want to stick to a 3 or 4 year plan.


from what you select a amount per month comes out.. thats what you from now on set apart every month for hardware and you purchase on your set times.

in general these days if you do a gpu upgrade you must also do a cpu upgrade today..
not so much an issue when you only do full system replacements.
-> but something to plan for budgetwise & motherboardwise if you want to do a halflife gpu swap.
**you either need to overspend on your cpu when you buy it.
**or get a motherboard with a socket that will get future cpu's that will do for it.


the best performance for your budget is stick to your price... spending 5k once and than 10 year nothing.. will not give a good experience.. better buy a 960 upgrade to 2060 and than 4060.,. than to buy a titan x.. and nothing until the 5090.. tech will age (and devalue) fast.. so upgrade with reasonably frequency.. within your budgetpoint... will give the best gaming experience...
Last edited by De Hollandse Ezel; Nov 27, 2024 @ 7:19am
The 3 Whites Nov 27, 2024 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Randy Marsh:
Hey there!

I have an Ryzen 9 5900x.

I haven’t been up to date on parts lately.

Curious to know are there any worthwhile CPU upgrades that does both Gaming and Workstation?

Or not worth upgrading just yet?

no. better upgrade gpu next year.
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