Alternatives to Nvidia? :: Hardware and Operating Systems

_I_ 2024年11月26日 8時14分

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the intel xe/arc but the drivers for them are very cpu heavy

Why recommend Intel ARC over AMD? Like, really?

for low/mid range dedicated gpu its not far off from a 2060
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-2060-vs-Arc-A770

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C1REX 2024年11月26日 9時00分

󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧󠀡Vivi の投稿を引用：
NVIDIA will always be faster than crappy AMD in the GPU area,

That statement needs a context.
While it’s true that top end NVidia GPUs beat AMD best offers often by a big margin their lower end GPUs (xx50, 60, 70) are usually slower than AMD products in the same price bracket.

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Citizen Cook 2024年11月26日 9時10分

Didn’t AMD announce that h the were abandoning the high end GPU market?
At a 4K TV gamer that meaning my next upgrade will have to be Nvidia. Unless Intel can somehow get their stuff together.

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Citizen Cook 2024年11月26日 9時13分

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Literally their competitor AMD.

I was Nvidia for 20+ years, Jumped to AMD when the 7000 cards came out. The world didn't explode. Alls fine here.

DLSS is so much better than FSR, though.
Hopefully AMD will compete with FSR4 it actually hardware on the board like Nvidia which as given them the edge.

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Schrute_Farms_B&B 2024年11月26日 10時04分

When youre looking for THE top tier GPU, there is no way around Nvidia. Thats the simple reality.
AMD just cant and wont compete with the highest tier line, because this isnt their preferred target group.

Beneath top tier(everything lower than a 4090/4080S), AMD is on par with Nvidia GPUs, when its about pure processing power.
Team red will always give you more bang for the buck, except if you want to use Raytracing or make use of upscaling features.

So if youre into that, DLSS is the way to go. The improvements since DLSS 1.0, which was meh, are unreal.
It is a gamechanger on quality presets to a point, that it even surpasses native resolution settings in some cases, where for example AA is poorly implemented. Given, youre using DLSS on at least 1440p, preferable on 4K. DLSS @1080p looks admittedly better than FSR @1080p, but still not worth it in my book. I would rather tweak ingame settings than playing that blurry mess.....

DLSS makes use of dedicated hardware though. Thats the reason why you wont hear the same praise for AMDs upscaling feature, which they call FSR and RSR. heck, even XESS looks better than FSR.
They are currently at version 3.1, and it still looks like ........, well it doesnt look good at all. It may work on 4K, but 1440p and 1080p is still a mess if you are as fastidious as I am.
Not to mention Frame Generation, which looks and works much better than AMDs version, Fluid Frames. But kudos to AMD. AFMF2 is some sort of gamechanger as well. At least, in most games and above 30 FPS.

Ive always preferred native resolution over any upscaling feature because playing on anything beneath ultra settings was not worth it to me. I mean, thats why I upgrade my GPU every darn generation. But seeing how the industry is coming up with more and more absurd price tags for their high end GPUs, makes you think about sustainability.
And if were talking sustainability, DLSS has gold value if you want to use your GPU for max settings for more than 1-2 years without much visual sacrifice.

I had a R9 290X, 5700XT, 6900XTXH and my last AMD GPU was a 7900XTX and enough is enough.
But that doesnt mean, that AMD isnt the perfect fit for other folks. Like already mentioned, best bang for the buck. Period.
And FSR and AFMF2 also add to sustainability. Sure, it doesnt look as good as Nvidias features, but it is still impressive. Especially at 4K.

edit:
AMD and Nvidia are both great on their own way. Im glad that they both exist and they push each other development-wise.
And there is also a third player now. Who knows what Intel is going to be capable of in a few years. So to answer your question, YES, YES INDEED, there are more than enough attractive alternatives to Nvidia.
It just depends on what you prefer.

edit II:
And I also prefer Adrenalin over Geforce Experience. Much more room for tweaking and more options for fine tuning
There were times where AMDs driver were a mess but these days are over big time.

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Electric Cupcake 2024年11月26日 10時28分

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DLSS is so much better than FSR, though.

Demonstrably false.

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Introverted Gamer 2024年11月26日 11時24分

As of Late 2024. No, Nvidia is still on top.

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MancSoulja 2024年11月26日 11時34分

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DLSS is so much better than FSR, though.

Demonstrably false.

Demonstrate it then....

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󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei 2024年11月26日 11時35分

MancSoulja の投稿を引用：
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you are delusional as always, NVIDIA will always be faster than crappy AMD in the GPU area, and intel? who cares about those losers now

Why are you doing console wars over your favourite brand of GPU? lol

C1REX の投稿を引用：
󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧󠀡Vivi の投稿を引用：
NVIDIA will always be faster than crappy AMD in the GPU area,
That statement needs a context.
While it’s true that top end NVidia GPUs beat AMD best offers often by a big margin their lower end GPUs (xx50, 60, 70) are usually slower than AMD products in the same price bracket.

some people like me do not care about prices and only want the fastest for gaming, people with lower cards and lower cards in general do not concern me at all and i couldnt care less about them

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󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei 2024年11月26日 11時50分

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Demonstrably false.

Demonstrate it then....

from my own experience in a game like space marines 2 (awful fps in that game and quality due to forced crap like TAA) the FSR option gave me over 10 more fps compared to the dlss one and quality did not seem too different

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Norman Schwarzkopf Jr. 2024年11月26日 11時51分

󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧󠀡Vivi の投稿を引用：
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Why are you doing console wars over your favourite brand of GPU? lol

C1REX の投稿を引用：
That statement needs a context.
While it’s true that top end NVidia GPUs beat AMD best offers often by a big margin their lower end GPUs (xx50, 60, 70) are usually slower than AMD products in the same price bracket.
some people like me do not care about prices and only want the fastest for gaming, people with lower cards and lower cards in general do not concern me at all and i couldnt care less about them

You know how they say, don't drink and drive?
Well, this goes also for writing into a forum.
Don't drink and write.

Back when I was young, you would only talk if you had something to say.
Calling other brands and models crap just because you know jack about anything, makes you ignorant and you come of as a total douche.

And who the F asked you about your life story? Who gives a flying F about what you care about?

Some people.....
They should use age verification on the forums as well.

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Electric Cupcake 2024年11月26日 11時52分

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/amd-fsr-vs-nvidia-dlss

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MancSoulja 2024年11月26日 12時04分

Electric Cupcake の投稿を引用：
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/amd-fsr-vs-nvidia-dlss

If you were hoping to see a clear winner, there are far too many factors in play. DLSS certainly seems to be more capable of producing near-native quality images, especially at higher upscaling factors, but it requires far more computational horsepower and, at times, doesn't improve performance as much as we'd like. More importantly, it's an Nvidia-only technology, and not just that, an RTX-only tech. All the Nvidia users with GTX cards are out of luck, as are AMD card owners and Intel GPU users.

FSR doesn't win the image quality matchup, particularly in higher upscaling modes, but if you're running at 4K and use the ultra quality or quality mode, you'll get a boost in performance and probably won't miss the few details that got lost in the shuffle. FSR performance mode, however, can look pretty bad. In fact, I'd prefer running a game at 1080p and letting my monitor stretch that to 4K rather than using FSR performance mode. Balanced mode likewise should only be used if you're in dire need of improved performance.

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󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei 2024年11月26日 12時30分

Norman Schwarzkopf Jr. の投稿を引用：
󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧󠀡Vivi の投稿を引用：

some people like me do not care about prices and only want the fastest for gaming, people with lower cards and lower cards in general do not concern me at all and i couldnt care less about them

You know how they say, don't drink and drive?
Well, this goes also for writing into a forum.
Don't drink and write.

Back when I was young, you would only talk if you had something to say.
Calling other brands and models crap just because you know jack about anything, makes you ignorant and you come of as a total douche.

And who the F asked you about your life story? Who gives a flying F about what you care about?

Some people.....
They should use age verification on the forums as well.

AMD cards are inferior in every way compared to NVIDIA
all i care about is having the highest FPS possible, i switched from a 7900XTX to a 4090 for that
there is nothing false here and it is a fact that 4090 is faster than everything crappy AMD has to offer, cry me a river poor one.
next thing you'll say is that intel is faster in gaming

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Citizen Cook 2024年11月26日 15時12分

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Demonstrably false.

Demonstrate it then....

Yeah, that’s a… misguided statement

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