Anyone else glad windows 7 has been shut down?
Its just taking away from valuable development time from the devs to please a small minority of people who are too lazy to upgrade to a literal FREE and more secure OS
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kiwikev Nov 24, 2024 @ 2:05am 
sad more like, as with every patch in modern windows, they open more security flaws as time goes by.
Lixire Nov 24, 2024 @ 2:21am 
I’m happy that developers move into newer frameworks and technologies as a whole regardless of the Windows version.

If an application is built with brand new frameworks but still run on XP/7. I wouldn’t mind it all
bidulless Nov 24, 2024 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by Lixire:
I’m happy that developers move into newer frameworks and technologies as a whole regardless of the Windows version.

If an application is built with brand new frameworks but still run on XP/7. I wouldn’t mind it all
hello
if , at least, you know what a framework is and how it'ss been used i may be would be agree with your post but sorry, it's not the case ...
note:
welcome
Last edited by bidulless; Nov 24, 2024 @ 3:18am
Lixire Nov 24, 2024 @ 2:55am 
Originally posted by bidulless:
Originally posted by Lixire:
I’m happy that developers move into newer frameworks and technologies as a whole regardless of the Windows version.

If an application is built with brand new frameworks but still run on XP/7. I wouldn’t mind it all
hello
if , at least, you know what a framework is and how it'ss been used i may be would be agree with your post but sorry, it's not the case ...

I just don’t care too much if a certain version of Windows is being supported or not.

If someone can build an application with modern tools that runs on 7 then all power to them.
but I hate when developers hold themselves back and use older APIs that prevent from them doing their work efficiently. wasting more time writing workarounds and spending time in validation especially if it prevents from implementing new features or optimizing for those on the newer stuff.
ChickenBalls Nov 24, 2024 @ 3:28am 
im still sad that they no longer support WIndows 3.1 and 95
lailaamell Nov 24, 2024 @ 3:33am 
Originally posted by kiwikev:
sad more like, as with every patch in modern windows, they open more security flaws as time goes by.
its more that new security holes is discovered newer have it reported older isnt beingt activily developed on so it dont get as many reports about issues
De Hollandse Ezel Nov 24, 2024 @ 5:17am 
1 I type this on win 7.. so...

2 you must not get the severeness of the issuemm if it was devs that dropped win 7 than that would no no problem.

you have epic game 2 that was made for win 7.. and your next release epic game 3 is not..

already many games on steam bott still sold or puled from the store wont work on windows 10 or newer.. they work fine on windows7 or xp as their devs made them for..

steam = piracy control layer.. unwanted drm.
and the issue is that this layer now has its own os mimimum independend from the games.

this means that game may need say win 10 or lower.. but steam at a point says we drop win 10 support and boom all the games you now own never will work again..

THATS the issue..

oh and btw
devs were already 100% free to not have their game support win 7 before steam dropped it but also 100% free to not have it suppport win 10 11 and newer..

steam now just screwed users over and turned all games in having an expuration date after which nobody can play them ever again

and thats bad!
thats so bad than NOBODY should ever spend a cent on steam ever again..

basicly this is like you buy a car.. and suddenly the goverment forbid petrol itself being sold only can plug it in.
meaning all cars made and sold without plug can never be driven again.. HUGE issue!
Last edited by De Hollandse Ezel; Nov 24, 2024 @ 5:20am
Win Vista is WIn 7 which is Win8.1 which is Win10 which is Win11 and soon-to-be WIn12 - but what I am not happy about is this constant "Nanny State" every country seems to be onboard with. :chirp:
Last edited by Phénomènes Mystiques; Nov 24, 2024 @ 7:26am
Carlsberg Nov 24, 2024 @ 5:49am 
To use an analogy; Why make tires for a car no-one drives? You can keep it, care for it and when its sunny take it for drive. But for everyday use? no, you need something that works.
De Hollandse Ezel Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:02am 
Originally posted by Carlsberg:
To use an analogy; Why make tires for a car no-one drives? You can keep it, care for it and when its sunny take it for drive. But for everyday use? no, you need something that works.

wrong analogy... this is like a steeringlock on your cars steeringwheel.. that refuses to let you use the car unless it has the latest wheels installed..

but you drive a classic car and it works fine but it has old wheels.. heck newer wheels won't even fit on it..

hence this steeringlock renders your car forever no longer drivable..

there is ZERO efford of the carbuilder needed... they made a car.
there is ZERo efford of the carowner needed, they bought it as is.. and just want to keep using it as is..

you bought a game that can be installed on windows 7 and played on windows 7 and can forever do that.. but it will never get an upgrade to run on windows 10 and that be fine..

but than steam comes along and says oh no we block you.. you can only install and launch trough our drm layer... and we will demand to use this drm layer you use windows 10 now but we will drop support for that in the future too..

see the issue.. it's the drm layer aka steam causing the issue.. by having an os demand independent from the software..

-> the logical solution would be.. the drm layer is scrapped.. they steering lock is removed for cars without those new wheels.. they can now drm free install and play their games.

that steam not put in the least but of efford for that means never spend a cent with them ..

it is like you buy a car.. and one morning your wheels are gone.. stolen.. yes we have retired all old wheels for all cars.. mandatory upgrade to newer wheels.. oh if those not work on your car.. well than your now cannot drive that car anymore forever...

this lazy efford only has steam focussing on sales.. but it takes ZERO efford in protecting the future of retrogaming.. in making sure that the art that is gaming.. is preserved for postarity.. it turns every game in a perishable good..
and thats wrong!

those floppy's I bought for dos.. or casettes I bought for my commendore 64.. I can still install them today and play them today on the platform they were developed for..
but one day even if you still have your current pc and even if it still works..every game in your steam library won't work.. cause the steam drm has robbed you of a way to install and launch them,.,

if you BUY a game in windows 7 than you should forever be able to install and use it in windows 7 thats a simple moral fact.

nobody is saying every new game made should support windows 7 not all all.. but if you buy a game under a certain os.. it should not suddenly stop working on that os (or in this case stop working at all) thats just wrong.
Last edited by De Hollandse Ezel; Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:07am
KalGimpa Nov 24, 2024 @ 7:24am 
Originally posted by kiwikev:
sad more like, as with every patch in modern windows, they open more security flaws as time goes by.
you know that they recently closed holes that have been there more than 20 years, right?

the rose tinted glasses people have for the dead os's amazes me

before i get any flack, i loved 7

used it until it was more trouble than it was worth and moved to 10 and linux

am now linux only

that covered

i have been using pc's for over 40 years

ms has released a new os every 2-3 years from the beginning

every single os had hacks and security troubles

and not just a few

we are talking constantly having to work against the people that want to break ♥♥♥♥

this is just not something new to the operating system world
AyaSensei067 Nov 24, 2024 @ 8:20am 
Nope.
Last Steam client update for Win7 was earlier this month:
Steam Beta Branch: Stable Client
Steam Version: 1730853000
Steam Client Build Date: Thu, Nov 7 7:55 PM UTC -08:00

Last Win7 update was in just over a month ago:
UpdatePack7 2024.10.10

Windows 7 has not been shut down.
SimicEngineer Nov 24, 2024 @ 10:35am 
Last Win7 update was in just over a month ago:
UpdatePack7 2024.10.10
Those aren't Windows 7 updates. They're Windows Embedded 7/Server 2008 R2 extended support updates that also technically work on Windows 7 because all of those are "Windows 6.1" internally. Microsoft is under no obligation to allow them to work on Windows 7 or to let the general public download them (they're made for corporate customers in special support programs); that's just the easiest thing to do.
Last edited by SimicEngineer; Nov 24, 2024 @ 10:36am
A&A Nov 24, 2024 @ 11:33am 
Oh look at this. The literal definition of a bandwagon jumper who saw the first post in the forum "Win7 something" and with his unoriginal ideas to started to seek for approval.

Sorry bud, we always see these "PC OS wars", but nobody says a damn word for older Androids like 3.0 which is out of support a long time ago, even it is using outdated APIs for google services. What is the reason to see absolutly nothing about this " topic"? Oh wait I know why. It is because you and rest of such people are ignorant about the world around you.

Also I would hear you talking about software development and security. I am all ears.
Last edited by A&A; Nov 24, 2024 @ 11:38am
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