MOTHERBOARD GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Pro

[EsKoRpZ]

Hi there, I need some help.
I'm thinking on buying this motherboard but in the description bit doesn't say anything about the 2x16gb ram compatibility but say's about the other compatibility with all the other types.
Does anyone know if it's compatible or not?
Thank you

[_I_]

the mobo does not do anything other than offer the max ram multi
thats it

the cpu is the limiting factor for ram speed
not every cpu can hit 6000+
even if you buy a dimm/dit for 8000+ from the boards qvl it will not work with every cpu in that board at that speed

[The_Abortionator]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Have you built a computer that had it's main system ram installed on an expansion card that went in the ISA slots? A computer with a 5 Mhz CPU? A computer with 30 pin SIMMS? Do you even know what those computers look like?

Yes actually but you googling old parts doesn't really mean anything to me as I don't really care about your RP.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

You have been lucky (I must stress that your experience is NOT the normal experience). You have coasted this far on 100% pure luck and nothing else. This does NOT mean that you should expect everyone else's experience to equal your own.

First off, drop the "Ur ExPeRiEnCe IsNt NoRmAl" blah blah blah.

I don't care about anecdotes, I don't care about what YOU a rando on the internet claims. It means nothing.

I only care about facts. Thats it. Heres a fact, all RAM and I mean ALL RAM follows jedec standards. Period. Full stop. Thats it. That means they will ALL communicate with your motherboard and CPU identically. Theres no such thing as a magic tweak to make RAM or motherboards more compatible with each other on a brand or SKU level. None. There just simply isn't.

If there were that would mean either motherboards or RAM vendors were violating jedec standards beyond supported frequency changes and would NOT be labeled as compliant meaning they wouldn't be sold as DDRx compatible RAM.

All a QVL means is that those models were used during testing. Thats LITERALLY all it means.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

I agree with you. Memory must adhere to specific standards. However that does not guarantee that every ram module will work with every motherboard. Just because it's a DDR5 motherboard and a DDR5 memory module does not guarantee that they will work together

Actually it does, literally because it adheres to a standard which GUARANTEES it. Thats why its a standard. Thats exactly why theres official specifications. You literally open up agreeing and then immediately disagree (and are factually wrong while doing so).

If you buy a DDR5 stick it WILL work in every motherboard with every CPU that adheres to that standard.

Thats a fact whether you understand it or not.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Every motherboard manufacturer publishes a different QVL list for a specific family of processor. As long as we have the correct processor for the correct QVL list, the correct bios revision, correct family of processor, and a ram kit that matches the QVL list 1:1 EXACTLY then it will always work and be stable.

First off, I'll remind you a QVL is NOTHING more than a list of parts they tested with. Thats it. It doesn't means anything else.

Second, yes they will all work at jedec speeds as every DDR5 compliant product (RAM/boards/CPUs) supports those specifications; however NO you do NOT magically get a guarantee that the RAM kit will work at there advertised speed because a QVL isn't a magic list of "things that work".

The main reason is the CPU, since the actual memory controller is in there and CPU dies vary in quality IT is the limiting factor in whether a non jedec speed will work.

Infact it literally says as much ON THE QVL PAGE OF EVERY MOTHERBOARD. You'd have seen that if you could only READ.

Its never guaranteed QVL part or not, and your odds DO NOT CHANGE based on spending more for an SKU you saw on a list you don't understand or not.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

I've built multiple thousands of computers over the years professionally at a computer shop, on commission for other people, and even for other companies in assembly lines. So far I've built 188 different DDR5 based computers for other people. I know quite a lot about how computers work by now. I don't know everything but I think I know enough.

Ok, let me stop you there. First off, I don't believe any of that. If you were in any kind of position to be in a factory line you'd have learn what a QVL was, and wasn't.

Second, building a PC for friends and a few extras doesn't mean you know much AT ALL about computers, and building in an assembly line gets you more lingo/documentation understanding for business practices and LESS tech understanding.

Those aren't high knowledge "professional" IT roles like you think they are because even if you did those jobs it means you did what a middle school kids does in the summer but a bunch more times. Thats it.

Unlike you my background isnt a weird and cringy RP. Its in IT. Like actual IT, where official documentation, specifications white papers, and real world large scale observed trends and behaviors matter.

You telling me you "BuIlT lOaDs Of PuTeRs" doesn't magically make your case look better or make you look right.

Me stating the fact that ALL DDR5 RAM will work at jedec speed QVL be damned doesn't rely on a "trust me bro" made up backstory, it relies on the fact its true. Its documented, official, and testable.

Me stating a QVL RAM SKU is NOT guaranteed to work at its advertised non jedec speed sldo doesn't rely on a "trust me bro" made up back story. It relies on the fact that its true, documented, and testable.

Infact why not test it your self? Try and get a 7950x running with 8000mhz RAM kits at their advertised settings. Whats that? Yout can't?!?! But why not? They are on the QVL!

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

I have personally seen memory kits provided by customers (that are completely brand new by the way) that would not even let the computer turn on or complete POST in both Intel and AMD systems. It does happen. I've even assembled computers that appeared to work and complete the 24 hour burn-in tests then then get returned to me a couple months later for crashing and instability only to find out it's the ram kit that was the problem. Personally myself to avoid returns, stress, hassle, and general dissatisfaction from customers, and to reduce delays when building machines for others I only buy ram kits certified to work from the motherboard QVL list now. Once I started doing that I've never had a single problem and no customer returns due to ram instability anymore.

What a bunch of made up garbage. Thats not how RAM works. Also you claim QVL RAM is certified to work? Is that why the QVL page on the motherboard manufacturers site literally tells you its not a guarantee that these parts will work at their non jedec speeds? Might want to READ next time kid.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

People in the steam forums act as if the QVL lists are evil and no one should ever use them. This is super confusing and sad. The motherboard companies provide information on how to choose parts and assemble a stable system but no one wants to use it. :(

No one is saying that. No one said they were "evil", thats just your weird emotional response to people pointing out they are useless for consumers. They have to test RAM to get proof even just to them selves that their boards support the settings these kits run.

QVLs are not a "certification" or guarantee. Maybe do some real research for once in your very short young life.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Abortionator:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Have you built a computer that had it's main system ram installed on an expansion card that went in the ISA slots? A computer with a 5 Mhz CPU? A computer with 30 pin SIMMS? Do you even know what those computers look like?

Yes actually but you googling old parts doesn't really mean anything to me as I don't really care about your RP.

It's not a roleplay. I was describing my first computer that I built. I still own it in the other room and I sometimes still play old games on it.

Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Abortionator:

First off, drop the "Ur ExPeRiEnCe IsNt NoRmAl" blah blah blah.
I don't care about anecdotes, I don't care about what YOU a rando on the internet claims. It means nothing.

Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Abortionator:

Unlike you my background isnt a weird and cringy RP.

Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Abortionator:

You telling me you "BuIlT lOaDs Of PuTeRs" doesn't magically make your case look better or make you look right.

Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Abortionator:

Infact why not test it your self? Try and get a 7950x running with 8000mhz RAM kits at their advertised settings. Whats that? Yout can't?!?! But why not? They are on the QVL!

Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Abortionator:

QVLs are not a "certification" or guarantee. Maybe do some real research for once in your very short young life.

Good job with the targeted insults and mean, rude, disrespectful, harassing comments. I'm sure the moderators will love to read your words.

Speaking of embarrassing yourself in public: You actually wrote that Windows 7 doesn't have NVME support. I thought you were the god of technology and you knew everything about every possible computer system?

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/4349988612573450321/?ctp=402#c4625855174854891947

[Magma Dragoon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av _I_:

the mobo does not do anything other than offer the max ram multi
thats it

the cpu is the limiting factor for ram speed
not every cpu can hit 6000+
even if you buy a dimm/dit for 8000+ from the boards qvl it will not work with every cpu in that board at that speed

This is not true, motherboard memory trace quality and memory layout matter at high speeds.

[Carlsberg]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Magma Dragoon:

This is not true, motherboard memory trace quality and memory layout matter at high speeds.

Yes it is true, memory controller is built into cpu not M/board.

But while i am here, let this thread die or be closed pls, its developed into nothing more than an argument and the OP's query has been completely lost.

[_I_]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Magma Dragoon:

Ursprungligen skrivet av _I_:

the mobo does not do anything other than offer the max ram multi
thats it

the cpu is the limiting factor for ram speed
not every cpu can hit 6000+
even if you buy a dimm/dit for 8000+ from the boards qvl it will not work with every cpu in that board at that speed

This is not true, motherboard memory trace quality and memory layout matter at high speeds.

yes but poorer designs will have lower max ram multi
better boards that support higher ram multi will be good enough, but will more likely be limited by the cpu than the board