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get a ddr5 6000+ cl30- kit
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#b=ddr5&ff=ddr5&Z=32768002&F=6000000,10000000&L=25,300&S=6000,8400&sort=price&page=1
if they listed incompatible dimms it would be useful, but again, thats very rare to test for too
Most people would much rather their new computer work instantly when they assemble it. That's why they must buy something listed on the QVL list to guarantee it will always work every time.
I'm assuming you're most likely one of those "Armchair warrior" types that sits behind a keyboard reading things with no actual experience. You probably have not had hands on any of the current-gen hardware to actually try building a modern computer. If you had you wouldn't of written that statement.
You might want to wait until you actually build a modern computer with your own hands before you write comments like that on the internet.
As for SDRAM (The common dimms), it won't matter what you choose because you have tons of kit manufacturers, but the chips they use are made by the big three: Macron, Samsung, SK Hynix.
RAM is stupid part in the system and it is controlled by the memory controller (this case the CPU), so the motherboard QVL is in the trash bin.
There is also something called JEDEC standart for each type of RAM and almost everything you see in the market can run on this standart, so the memory controllers too.
This is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Sure there always will be the chance to go and buy some random ultra cheap RAM kit with random dies from aliexpress that can't even work on JEDEC specs. But hey, considering the motherboard mentioned I'm sure we don't talk about Russian roulette on the components.
I know I am a little bit disrepectful, but calling someone else this
without even hardly wired arguments is not ok.
Reading this comment brings to mind an image of a teenager who learnt so much building his friends machine he can't resist sharing his knowledge.
read the forum rules again please
if you have any proof against what i have said, please post it
qvl does not mean it will always work, there are limits to every cpu due to its binning or how good its imc actually is
just because a specific dimm brand/model is on the qvl does not mean it will run at those specs with every cpu in that board
any board/ram that is non proprietary will work in any other board
will be limited by the specific cpus imc and boards max ram multi, and dimms own limits
dell, hp did that on some ddr/ddr2 boards, where you needed specific dimms from them to upgrade ram
What's "ban worthy" is people openly and intentionally misleading others on the steam forums when they come here asking for technical help. Which is what you are doing.
You are incorrect. If someone buys a ram module listed in the QVL list, and they also have the correct bios version and a compatible CPU then it will always work at the rated speed in the list every time. That is the actual reason that list is published by the motherboard manufacturers.
It seems my above comment was correct in my assumptions: You are thinking about old computers from the older eras. That line of thinking can not be applied to modern computers today. Most likely you have not personally built or assembled any modern computer with your own hands. You have not seen AM5 computers refuse to power on due to incompatible ram modules installed. It happens for modern Intel motherboards too. This very much is a part of modern computer building. Today with our modern components we can not just pick any random DDR5 kit from amazon/newegg and expect it to work in every DDR5 motherboard. That's not how modern computers work. Even if you find some ram kit that works in a motherboard that does not mean that it will be stable. Sometimes modern motherboards and some ram kits will turn on and run but crash and blue screen under load from incompatible ram.
As I said above: If you had any kind of personal experience assembling modern computers you would of known all of this and never written your comments. Because you wrote those comments you demonstrated that you do not have any actual experience building modern computers. You probably shouldn't be commenting on something you know nothing about as it's just going to mislead people with incorrect information.
It's completely frustrating to me. Someone comes to the steam forums asking for technical help and in response multiple people respond with technical information that is going to cause them to spend money on hardware combinations that probably won't even turn on and work, or if it does manage to turn on it may not even run stable for them. This is going to cause them to waste time, money, and cause untold amounts of anger and frustration for them. This is an awful, terrible bad thing to be doing to people on the internet. I wish the moderators would slap people for doing stuff like this on purpose in the steam forums.
intel i personally have never seen incompatible ram unless of course its ram
specifically made for AMD
WOW, such rage and frantic emotional thrashing.
As someone who has been building computers since before you were born I have NEVER even bothered checking a RAM QVL and have never had an issue. Period. Full stop.
Not only does every stick of RAM sold interact with a motherboard and CPU the exact same way because they MUST adhere to set standards but the QVL is only a statement saying those sticks worth with THE MOTHERBOARD.
Thats next to useless because the CPU is going to be the limiting factor on whether the sticks actual run at the speeds you want which isn't guaranteed by ANYONE. Not the board companies, not the RAM companies, and most of all not the CPU companies.
High speed RAM is out of spec thus isn't guaranteed by anyone. And if you really wanted a QVL list that mattered it would be provided by the CPU manufacturer but seeing how every CPU is different even in the same SKU thats not possible whic is why the official spec is listed.
Thats like buying a cable off of a monitor's QVL and expecting any GPU you buy to play games at a solid 4k 240hz because thats what your monitor and calbe supports.
Maybe does some of your own research before making a spectacle out of your self.
You have been lucky (I must stress that your experience is NOT the normal experience). You have coasted this far on 100% pure luck and nothing else. This does NOT mean that you should expect everyone else's experience to equal your own.
I agree with you. Memory must adhere to specific standards. However that does not guarantee that every ram module will work with every motherboard. Just because it's a DDR5 motherboard and a DDR5 memory module does not guarantee that they will work together.
Every motherboard manufacturer publishes a different QVL list for a specific family of processor. As long as we have the correct processor for the correct QVL list, the correct bios revision, correct family of processor, and a ram kit that matches the QVL list 1:1 EXACTLY then it will always work and be stable.
I've built multiple thousands of computers over the years professionally at a computer shop, on commission for other people, and even for other companies in assembly lines. So far I've built 188 different DDR5 based computers for other people. I know quite a lot about how computers work by now. I don't know everything but I think I know enough.
I have personally seen memory kits provided by customers (that are completely brand new by the way) that would not even let the computer turn on or complete POST in both Intel and AMD systems. It does happen. I've even assembled computers that appeared to work and complete the 24 hour burn-in tests then then get returned to me a couple months later for crashing and instability only to find out it's the ram kit that was the problem. Personally myself to avoid returns, stress, hassle, and general dissatisfaction from customers, and to reduce delays when building machines for others I only buy ram kits certified to work from the motherboard QVL list now. Once I started doing that I've never had a single problem and no customer returns due to ram instability anymore.
People in the steam forums act as if the QVL lists are evil and no one should ever use them. This is super confusing and sad. The motherboard companies provide information on how to choose parts and assemble a stable system but no one wants to use it. :(
Except you want go to that black hole of OC
Today in 2024 motherboards are just busses connecting components and the only component on the motherboard is the chipset and it is safe to say that the chipset doesn't affect the RAM, because the memory controler is no longer inside them including this case.
If it was 20 years ago, then it becomes a different story.
Clock generator? Good luck to find a reason why it is a problematic. Or the sensors.
That's the logic part on a motherboard in 2024.
What does this even mean? Even if you buy QVL RAM its not guaranteed that you'd get the advertised clocks because it never is. Overclocks are not officially supported by either CPU vendor, EXPO/XMP are overclocks and thus not guaranteed no matter what list their on.
That lists says "this thing works with our board" which is useless as your CPU is what determines whether you can run at those clocks or not.