what is best Rtx Gpu for 1080P ? rtx 4070 is waste ?

[Farzan]

i just don't get it , my gpu is gtx 1060 6 gb from playstation 3 era . when i watch benchmark videos from youtube unbelievably see no difference beteween gtx 1060 and rtx 4060 my gpu gives 45 fps in last games and rtx 4060 gives 60 fps 70 fps idk what is wrong here maybe i am wrong ? maybe they forget to set high performance power setting any way i dont like rtx 4060 but youtubers says its good for 1080P and i need a budget rtx gpu

so anything more then 4060 like 4070 , 4070 ti or good 1440 gpu or 4k Gpu or maybe rtx 5060 i s a waste for 1080 or they will give more performance ?

[Wampum Biskit]

引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune：

引用自 _I_：

but still, those have defined resolutions, k does not

Yes it does.
4K = 3840x2160
8K = 7680×4320
16K (Yes those monitors do exist) is 15360×8640

The resolutions are very clearly defined.

i don't often align with _I_ but he's somewhat right on this , K's don't have "clear" defined resolutions , it has a preferred industry standard but they are still outliers like DCI's resolutions for example , they have different 2K and 4K resolutions that are common for them , just not for the mainstream.

[Wampum Biskit]

引用自 skOsH：

I think the point being made are that companies will release monitors and screens that are not truly 8k or 16k but they will be advertised as such

it does happen , not a lot becasue generally manufacturers stay to the 3840x2160 , just for the simple fact that some weird resolutions are not supported in games but they do happen , Samsung made a monitor which was marketed at 4K but actually had a 5K resolution.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

引用自 Wampum Biskit：

引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune：

Yes it does.
4K = 3840x2160
8K = 7680×4320
16K (Yes those monitors do exist) is 15360×8640

The resolutions are very clearly defined.

i don't often align with _I_ but he's somewhat right on this , K's don't have "clear" defined resolutions , it has a preferred industry standard but they are still outliers like DCI's resolutions for example , they have different 2K and 4K resolutions that are common for them , just not for the mainstream.

Yes they do I just posted them for you. If some screen does not have the resolutions listed then it's not a 4K/8K/16K screen.

[Wampum Biskit]

引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune：

引用自 Wampum Biskit：

i don't often align with _I_ but he's somewhat right on this , K's don't have "clear" defined resolutions , it has a preferred industry standard but they are still outliers like DCI's resolutions for example , they have different 2K and 4K resolutions that are common for them , just not for the mainstream.

Yes they do I just posted them for you. If some screen does not have the resolutions listed then it's not a 4K/8K/16K screen.

he wasn't talking about "screen' resolutions but the 4K/2K standard itself.

It's the accepted standard , initially 4K and UHD were different formats (kinda still are they just renamed it to DCI-4K) , 4K was derived for the cinema industry and used 4096 x 2160 (it was called true native 4K).

it's still used today same goes for the 2K standard , if you look it up you will see there are more variants of 2K and 4K , that doesn't make them NOT 4K or 2K resolutions.

[Χάρης]

According to some people, the RTX 4090 is a 1080P GPU. In other words, it depends on what settings you play besides resolution. If you don't care about Ray Tracing then anything above an RTX xx60 / RX xx60 should be enough for 1080P.

[Tomi Montana]

引用自 wesnef：

引用自 De Hollandse Ezel：

there are dirty causuals.. and console PLAYERS.. that does NOT a gamer make.

More and more, I'm glad that I'm not a Gamer, just someone who's enjoyed playing games for the past 40 years.

but since 2019 you can have such a screen under 300 euro.. placing them even in the budget of the most stringy budgetgamer...

You have strange ideas of what "budget" means. (kind of like the guy above who said 4070 was the "bare minimum" - when $500-600 is "bare minimum", something is seriously wrong).

and as everybody by now has upgraded their system 1 or 2 times since than..

Really? O_o

but ever since the geforce 1xxx came out.. basicly everybody goes 1440p.. the excuse to go 1080p is effectively dead.

Where by "basically everybody", you mean "only the people who I think count, i.e. True Gam3rz!"?

One dutchman on three different steam accounts fills the quota easily.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

引用自 Χάρης：

According to some people, the RTX 4090 is a 1080P GPU. In other words, it depends on what settings you play besides resolution. If you don't care about Ray Tracing then anything above an RTX xx60 / RX xx60 should be enough for 1080P.

It depends on what game you're playing. For example: in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 an RTX 4090 is the only video card that can actually sustain 60 FPS minimums at 1080p maximum settings (that's 1080p native, without DLSS or FSR). No other video card available for sale can manage 60 FPS minimums at maximum settings at 1080p in that game.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Its better to be GPU bound than CPU bound, so if you can upgrade go for it, just be sure that anything you get has more than 8GB VRAM.

[Corona Scurrae]

Don't buy a 4070 - 4070ti unless you want to spend big money on a GPU that will end up being a glorified 1080p card. Today we'll see more reviews from Intel b580. Maybe that will satisfy your needs because it's supposed to be faster than 4060 and offers 12GB GDDR6

[r.linder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjdCkSsLYLk

B580 basically trades blows with 4060 or 3060 Ti depending on the game, sometimes not much better than A770 or even slightly slower than it

Not even that power efficient either as it uses more power as the 4060 Ti to get similar results

This is why Intel GPUs aren't going to be too expensive at first, they can't charge more until they're a true contender

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 r.linder：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjdCkSsLYLk

B580 basically trades blows with 4060 or 3060 Ti depending on the game, sometimes not much better than A770 or even slightly slower than it

Not even that power efficient either as it uses more power as the 4060 Ti to get similar results

This is why Intel GPUs aren't going to be too expensive at first, they can't charge more until they're a true contender

All I can say is that Intel going in right direction, they just need to keep pushing to control the mid range market to which benefit consumers as long they keep aiming at $200 ~ $250 range, would be even better if they aim to lower prices this put strong choke on both Nvidia & AMD in that space that want consumers buying their hardware, but I doubt that happen at least for now anyways time will tell how things will go when intel release their Celestial in 2 years.

[r.linder]

It'll take a long time for them to gain any real ground, with AMD stalling in the high end they might be able to at least be even with Radeon

[D. Flame]

引用自 r.linder：

It'll take a long time for them to gain any real ground, with AMD stalling in the high end they might be able to at least be even with Radeon

AMD should stop screwing around with the high end and shoot for the entry level to mid range. When they can get an APU that competes with Nvidia's XX60s and that can come in mini-PCs around the same cost as a console, then AMD will win the market. Especially if they work with Linux and Steam OS.

[C1REX]

引用自 D. Flame：

引用自 r.linder：

It'll take a long time for them to gain any real ground, with AMD stalling in the high end they might be able to at least be even with Radeon

AMD should stop screwing around with the high end and shoot for the entry level to mid range. When they can get an APU that competes with Nvidia's XX60s and that can come in mini-PCs around the same cost as a console, then AMD will win the market. Especially if they work with Linux and Steam OS.

AMD needs Steam OS or Linux to make good APU that can compete with consoles. Windows doesn't support unified memory what is crucial for good performance.

[D. Flame]

引用自 C1REX：

引用自 D. Flame：

AMD should stop screwing around with the high end and shoot for the entry level to mid range. When they can get an APU that competes with Nvidia's XX60s and that can come in mini-PCs around the same cost as a console, then AMD will win the market. Especially if they work with Linux and Steam OS.

AMD needs Steam OS or Linux to make good APU that can compete with consoles. Windows doesn't support unified memory what is crucial for good performance.

I think that is where the winds are blowing.

Win 11 requirements and spying is getting people riled
Strix Halo is said to be getting 4060 type performance.
The new logos from Steam seem to indicate another Steam machine push looming.
The resurgence of focus on Half-Life seems like HL3 could be getting push as a launch title.
Etc.