what is best Rtx Gpu for 1080P ? rtx 4070 is waste ?

[Farzan]

i just don't get it , my gpu is gtx 1060 6 gb from playstation 3 era . when i watch benchmark videos from youtube unbelievably see no difference beteween gtx 1060 and rtx 4060 my gpu gives 45 fps in last games and rtx 4060 gives 60 fps 70 fps idk what is wrong here maybe i am wrong ? maybe they forget to set high performance power setting any way i dont like rtx 4060 but youtubers says its good for 1080P and i need a budget rtx gpu

so anything more then 4060 like 4070 , 4070 ti or good 1440 gpu or 4k Gpu or maybe rtx 5060 i s a waste for 1080 or they will give more performance ?

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by smokerob79:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

I play at 1080p and I use a 13400F and a 4060Ti (16GB). A 4070, would be fine too. A 4080 or 4090 would be extreme overkill though.

1440p is just a gimmick. It is the new 720p. It is just a stop gap on the way to 4k. TV and monitor makes made a buttload of money during the Switch to Digital (TV), and so they started pushing out tons of gimmicks to keep the gravy train rolling (1440p, Smart TVs, 3D tvs, Etc.). It's just snake oil to try to get you to consume more goods.

there is no gimmick to 1440p....it is better then 1080p.....i've had it for almost 10 years now....the reason its better is simple...more pixels without getting crazy like 4K were you need a new GPU every 2 years to keep up with games even running 60 frames.....

if everything was a gimmick you would still have horse and buggies.....

And 720p was better than 480i, but it was still a stop gap gimmick until Full HD 1080p hit the market.

4K is 1080p*2 and 1440p is just 720p*2.

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by smokerob79:

there is no gimmick to 1440p....it is better then 1080p.....i've had it for almost 10 years now....the reason its better is simple...more pixels without getting crazy like 4K were you need a new GPU every 2 years to keep up with games even running 60 frames.....

if everything was a gimmick you would still have horse and buggies.....

And 720p was better than 480i, but it was still a stop gap gimmick until Full HD 1080p hit the market.

4K is 1080p*2 and 1440p is just 720p*2.

I'm not sure what the point is.

Everything is a "stopgap" in the sense that later stuff may replace it. That's not exclusive to 1440p more than it is to anything else.

Until 4K becomes more accessible (meaning performant on cheaper hardware and/or not needing GPU upgrades as often), then 1440p will be a better option for most people. The advantages of higher resolutions become diminishing the higher you go, and 1440p is more than good enough for many people. I mean, the majority are below that point to begin with.

[Wampum Biskit]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by smokerob79:

there is no gimmick to 1440p....it is better then 1080p.....i've had it for almost 10 years now....the reason its better is simple...more pixels without getting crazy like 4K were you need a new GPU every 2 years to keep up with games even running 60 frames.....

if everything was a gimmick you would still have horse and buggies.....

And 720p was better than 480i, but it was still a stop gap gimmick until Full HD 1080p hit the market.

4K is 1080p*2 and 1440p is just 720p*2.

yeah that's just not true

4K = 1080 x4
and 1440 = 720x4

8K = 4x 4K or 16x 1080

that's why 4K is so much more demanding on a GPU , it's refreshing 4 1080 displays at once.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Originally posted by smokerob79:

there is no gimmick to 1440p....it is better then 1080p.....i've had it for almost 10 years now....the reason its better is simple...more pixels without getting crazy like 4K were you need a new GPU every 2 years to keep up with games even running 60 frames.....

if everything was a gimmick you would still have horse and buggies.....

The only issue with resolutions higher than 1080p is compatibility. If people are using 1440p, 2K, or 4K screens then they will always have issues in that not all games support those resolutions. Using that sort of monitor pretty much always ensures people will only be able to play newer release games. There are quite a lot of older games that exist that do not support 1440p or above and never will support those resolutions. People with a 1440p (or above) screen just can't play older games and that's something they have to accept.

There is also the problem of even if games allow us to set that resolution not all games will scale their UI up to 1440p+ correctly, sometimes resulting in tiny text that humans can't read.

Personally this is why I'm sticking to 1080p forever: It's far more compatible with a broader range of older and new games.

[Wampum Biskit]

Originally posted by Ontrix_Kitsune:

The only issue with resolutions higher than 1080p is compatibility. If people are using 1440p, 2K, or 4K screens then they will always have issues in that not all games support those resolutions. Using that sort of monitor pretty much always ensures people will only be able to play newer release games. There are quite a lot of older games that exist that do not support 1440p or above and never will support those resolutions. People with a 1440p (or above) screen just can't play older games and that's something they have to accept.

There is also the problem of even if games allow us to set that resolution not all games will scale their UI up to 1440p+ correctly, sometimes resulting in tiny text that humans can't read.

Personally this is why I'm sticking to 1080p forever: It's far more compatible with a broader range of older and new games.

most games that have been released over the past 15 years don't really have a problem with running on a 1440 display , of course there's going to be some exceptions , but generally there's not a huge problem other then the game may look a bit "blurry" up scaled from 1080 to 1440.

i used to be on the forever 1080 boat , but i bought a good 1440P display a year ago and i'm happy i made the change , i wouldn't change back to a 1080 display.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Originally posted by Wampum Biskit:

most games that have been released over the past 15 years don't really have a problem with running on a 1440 display , of course there's going to be some exceptions , but generally there's not a huge problem other then the game may look a bit "blurry" up scaled from 1080 to 1440.

i used to be on the forever 1080 boat , but i bought a good 1440P display a year ago and i'm happy i made the change , i wouldn't change back to a 1080 display.

And what if someone wanted to play an older game from many years ago suddenly? If they had 1440p then they couldn't do that because the game either wouldn't support their resolution at all or it would look wrong.

Limiting ourselves to the number of games we can play seems dumb, to me.

[Wampum Biskit]

Originally posted by Ontrix_Kitsune:

Originally posted by Wampum Biskit:

most games that have been released over the past 15 years don't really have a problem with running on a 1440 display , of course there's going to be some exceptions , but generally there's not a huge problem other then the game may look a bit "blurry" up scaled from 1080 to 1440.

i used to be on the forever 1080 boat , but i bought a good 1440P display a year ago and i'm happy i made the change , i wouldn't change back to a 1080 display.

And what if someone wanted to play an older game from many years ago suddenly? If they had 1440p then they couldn't do that because the game either wouldn't support their resolution at all or it would look wrong.

Limiting ourselves to the number of games we can play seems dumb, to me.

i haven't had that problem yet , and i run a full screen C64 emulator (games from the 80's), if that's not old then i don't know what is.

[The_Abortionator]

Originally posted by De Hollandse Ezel:

Originally posted by The_Abortionator:

Wow. So much wrong with this.

Not only is 1080p still the most common gaming resolution to this day but it has already been proven time and time again that yes you can see higher frame rates, yes higher FPS means lower input/output latency, and yes this is measurable and repoducable.

Please keep your feelings and emotions out of technical discussions.

there are dirty causuals.. and console PLAYERS.. that does NOT a gamer make.

fact is for the last decade
a good screen means
16:9, 100hz or more, 1ms or less responcetime, gsync and freesync. (oh and a size and resolution ratio that keeps the same constant pixel density)

ever since 2016 you can have a 27 inch 1440p IPS screen that does all this.. but granded back than they did cost 800 euro
but since 2019 you can have such a screen under 300 euro.. placing them even in the budget of the most stringy budgetgamer... and as everybody by now has upgraded their system 1 or 2 times since than.. all have a 1440p screen and if not.. well than they are not really a gamer and they should know that"

the other limit was gpu power.. 1440p 100fps did need a 980ti of 700 euro.. and even a midrange 970 would struggle running it 60fps.. but since than we have been many gpu generations further...

a 3060 and up.. is more than capable to run 1440p at acceptable fps.. and settings..
and you have no builsuiss still using older crap than that still today.. unless the high end titan and x80ti models..


hence everybody even the most budget consient gaming should have picked up a decent 1440p screen and gpu years ago... and made the switch..

now 4k THAT hardly anybody should be using..

after all the first realistic screen for that has not been made since late 2023.. and costs 1800 euro.. (40inch and larger is needed to run 4k properly)

only with that screen and a gpu that can run 4k natively at 60fps (no crappy upscaling) you would move to 4k..
which does mean you would need a 4080 gpu at least.. that plus a very expensive schreen needed.. means less than 0.1% should use 4k (the rest is using it on screens that are to small or crappy to be 4k.. or use crappy upscaling one should not use)

so basicly 1440p is SO affordable and has been for quite some time now.. with so many cheap gpu's running it easely at 60fps or more.. and so many cheap 1440p screens available now.. that nobody has excuse to still run 1080p..

if you did buy a budget game in 2015.. aka when you still got a 960 and not had 970 money.. maybe you went 1080p...

but ever since the geforce 1xxx came out.. basicly everybody goes 1440p.. the excuse to go 1080p is effectively dead.

Wow, again with nothing but nonsense. First off 1080p literally an NOT be dead if its still the most common resolution BY FAR.

Second, you don't magically need a 40in display for 4k, no idea what made you think that (bad eyes maybe?).

Third, enjoy your ban.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Wampum Biskit:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

And 720p was better than 480i, but it was still a stop gap gimmick until Full HD 1080p hit the market.

4K is 1080p*2 and 1440p is just 720p*2.

yeah that's just not true

4K = 1080 x4
and 1440 = 720x4

8K = 4x 4K or 16x 1080

that's why 4K is so much more demanding on a GPU , it's refreshing 4 1080 displays at once.

It's basic math.

1080p = "1920x1080"

therefore 1080p * 2 is the same as 2 * (1920 x 1080)

and using basic distribution they teach in like 6th grade math we get:

2 * (1920 x 1080) = (2*1920) x (2*1080) = 3840x2160
And 3840x2160 is what we know as 4K.

[Wampum Biskit]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by Wampum Biskit:

yeah that's just not true

4K = 1080 x4
and 1440 = 720x4

8K = 4x 4K or 16x 1080

that's why 4K is so much more demanding on a GPU , it's refreshing 4 1080 displays at once.

It's basic math.

1080p = "1920x1080"

therefore 1080p * 2 is the same as 2 * (1920 x 1080)

and using basic distribution they teach in like 6th grade math we get:

2 * (1920 x 1080) = (2*1920) x (2*1080) = 3840x2160
And 3840x2160 is what we know as 4K.

you fail basic math , because it's TWICE the resolution vertical PLUS TWICE the resolution horizontal.

1080x 1920 = 2,073,600 pixels

3840 x 2160 = 8,294,400 pixels

and guess what you get when you 4 x 2,073,600 pixels

that's 4 times the resolution...


And FYI Order of Operations

2 * (1920 x 1080)

is 2 * 2,073,600 = 4,147,200 (Not 4K)

you cannot simply say 2*(1920x1080) equals (2*1920) x (2*1080) , it's not the same equation ..PERIOD

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Wampum Biskit:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

It's basic math.

1080p = "1920x1080"

therefore 1080p * 2 is the same as 2 * (1920 x 1080)

and using basic distribution they teach in like 6th grade math we get:

2 * (1920 x 1080) = (2*1920) x (2*1080) = 3840x2160
And 3840x2160 is what we know as 4K.

you fail basic math , because it's TWICE the resolution vertical PLUS TWICE the resolution horizontal.

That's how doubling a rectangle works, sweetie.

If you have a 2 by 2 square how do you double it? You double both the height and width to get a 4 by 4 square. If you only double one side, you end up with a 2 by 4 shape, which is no longer a square. It is a rectangle with a different aspect ratio.

[Wampum Biskit]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by Wampum Biskit:

you fail basic math , because it's TWICE the resolution vertical PLUS TWICE the resolution horizontal.

That's how doubling a rectangle works, sweetie.

If you have a 2 by 2 square how do you double it? You double both the height and width to get a 4 by 4 square. If you only double one side, you end up with a 2 by 4 shape, which is no longer a square. It is a rectangle with a different aspect ratio.

calling me sweety doesn't make you right.

here is a copy and paste from the intrawebs :

"Doubling a rectangle" means to increase both the length and width of a rectangle by a factor of two, resulting in a new rectangle with FOUR times the area of the original rectangle; essentially, you are multiplying each dimension by 2, which squares the value when calculating area (2 x 2 = 4) making the area FOUR times larger.

so again 4K is FOUR times the resolution of 1080 , if it was double then 1440 (2K) wouldn't exist (which is double 1080) , just changed up in height/width to suit the aspect ratio better , this is why up scaling from 1080 to 1440 sometimes looks a bit weird because it's not a native doubling of resolution

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Wampum Biskit:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

That's how doubling a rectangle works, sweetie.

If you have a 2 by 2 square how do you double it? You double both the height and width to get a 4 by 4 square. If you only double one side, you end up with a 2 by 4 shape, which is no longer a square. It is a rectangle with a different aspect ratio.

calling me sweety doesn't make you right.

here is a copy and paste from the intrawebs :

"Doubling a rectangle" means to increase both the length and width of a rectangle by a factor of two, resulting in a new rectangle with FOUR times the area of the original rectangle; essentially, you are multiplying each dimension by 2, which squares the value when calculating area (2 x 2 = 4) making the area FOUR times larger.

You literally just posted proof that I am right.

Not once did I mention "area". The area will be different based on the size of your monitor anyway. I mentioned doubling the resolution, aka the width (1920) and length (1080), aka, increasing them by a factor of two:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

1080p = "1920x1080"

therefore 1080p * 2 is the same as 2 * (1920 x 1080)

and using basic distribution they teach in like 6th grade math we get:

2 * (1920 x 1080) = (2*1920) x (2*1080) = 3840x2160
And 3840x2160 is what we know as 4K.

Originally posted by Wampum Biskit:

And FYI Order of Operations

2 * (1920 x 1080)

is 2 * 2,073,600 = 4,147,200 (Not 4K)

you cannot simply say 2*(1920x1080) equals (2*1920) x (2*1080) , it's not the same equation ..PERIOD

LMAO

the "X" in "1920 x 1080" is NOT multiplication, chief. It means "by" as is in 1920 by 1080, or in other words, it is referring to a rectangular shape where one side is 1,920 units long, and the other side is 1,080 units long.

[Ghost Robertson]

Umm a lot of you talk about 1080p on ultra settings but what kind of games are you talking about? you mean AAA brand new games?

I personally have a 4060 and a 4060 Ti and the only game i really have a little trouble with is company of heroes 3, that's on high/medium settings. (there's multiple settings to set)

[Wampum Biskit]

Technically YES the X in 1080x1920 IS a multiplication because monitors work off of PIXELS.

which on 1080 is 2 million pixels (no matter the screen size)

1080 on a 30" screen has the SAME amount of pixels then 1080 on 50" screen (the pixels are just placed further apart and/or are bigger)

Further more

4K on a 30" screen vs 1080 on a 30" screen still has 4 times the pixels , regardless the screen size as it has NOTHING to do with resolutions.