Will Nvidia GTX 1660 Super work on new 2024 games?

[SavageHedgehog]

Or should I upgrade?

[Illusion of Progress]

Everything depends on what you're looking to get out of it. Maybe a GTX 1660 Super is good enough for that and maybe it isn't. There's a large spread between the results you'll get on any piece of hardware depending on resolution, settings, and desired frame rates. Also, not all games are as demanding as others, but you specifically asked about today's games, so I'll cast a wide net and presume that includes the worst case scenarios.

There's few, if any, games that a GTX 1660 Super won't run. For today's games, at least the demanding ones, I'd say you're looking more at the floor rather than the ceiling though.

You say you're already on the GTX 1660 Super, and this is important. If you were in the buying market right now, I'd say that level of performance is below what I'd look at (broadly speaking, I'd sort of see somewhere around the RTX 3060 and RX 6600-ish as the minimums to buy, but that is not the same as the minimum to continue using). This changes since you're already on it, though. If you're already on something, it becomes a question of "is it good enough". If it is, keep using it. If it's not, upgrade.

There's easily scenarios with modern games where a GTX 1660 would be quite sub-par. But unless you encounter them yourself (maybe you don't because you play at lower resolution, are willing to turn down settings, or have less strict frame rate desires), then they don't mean anything to you. So you're asking others when you should ask yourself "have I encountered something that leaves me wanting more yet"? If you buy a game and find that time comes, then it is upgrade time.

But if you want to upgrade for more performance because you have the money and want more, then that's a correct reason for an upgrade too.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

Nguyên văn bởi Illusion of Progress:

Everything depends on what you're looking to get out of it. Maybe a GTX 1660 Super is good enough for that and maybe it isn't. There's a large spread between the results you'll get on any piece of hardware depending on resolution, settings, and desired frame rates. Also, not all games are as demanding as others, but you specifically asked about today's games, so I'll cast a wide net and presume that includes the worst case scenarios.

There's few, if any, games that a GTX 1660 Super won't run. For today's games, at least the demanding ones, I'd say you're looking more at the floor rather than the ceiling though.

You say you're already on the GTX 1660 Super, and this is important. If you were in the buying market right now, I'd say that level of performance is below what I'd look at (broadly speaking, I'd sort of see somewhere around the RTX 3060 and RX 6600-ish as the minimums to buy, but that is not the same as the minimum to continue using). This changes since you're already on it, though. If you're already on something, it becomes a question of "is it good enough". If it is, keep using it. If it's not, upgrade.

There's easily scenarios with modern games where a GTX 1660 would be quite sub-par. But unless you encounter them yourself (maybe you don't because you play at lower resolution, are willing to turn down settings, or have less strict frame rate desires), then they don't mean anything to you. So you're asking others when you should ask yourself "have I encountered something that leaves me wanting more yet"? If you buy a game and find that time comes, then it is upgrade time.

But if you want to upgrade for more performance because you have the money and want more, then that's a correct reason for an upgrade too.

the other argument is.. if you wait until your 1660 breaks... or does not run a game you just bought (at all or at a quality your satisfied with) you pretty much forced to upgrade right than an there at the price you have to pay than...

an 1660 already shows it's age.. and black friday is coming around the launch of 5xxx series is coming around (which usually means a lot of people will upgrade and sell their old gpu for pennies on the dollar.. like 2080ti's of 1600 euro were dumped at 400-500 euro when the 3xxx series released... thats how big the savings can be..

so knowing the 1660 is a dated thing... and presuming you have been saving for 5-6 years now for your next pc (as you start saving for a new pc when you just got your current one)

I say when you see a nice deal.. take it...
there are bargains to be had now.. that may not be as good a year from now (cause they most likely won't drop much lower in another year)
don';t rush to the store.. but certainly keep your peepers open for some nice 2d hand price on eebay or whatever 2d hand saleplace you use.. or some webshop dumping old 4xxx seres and 3xxx series stock at dump prices... as they restock on 5xxx


I would inquire what is the pricepoint you build systems at.. after all you deciede "I build a pc for x every y years.." and than you keep saving each month and follow your standard upgrade path like a proper gamer...

so what IS your upgrade path.. or should I help set you up with one.. than I'd ask what would you forever be willking to spend per month on hardware... (and from that I can give you an upgrade path that gives you the best experience)

whats your current cpu? for if it bottlenecks better gpu's you need to upgrade that too..

but basicly a 2d hand or bargain dumped 2080, 2080 super 2080ti titan rtx, 3070 (or better) and 4060 and better)

alongside radeon 6700xt (and better and all radeon 7600and better


those would all be optimal upgrades for you (as each of those would double your performance... as well as place you solid in the 1440 60ffps or 1080p 100fps.. even at high settings..

I would call higher resolution.. twice the fps.. higer settings a considerable upgrade.. but it might entail buying cpu... new monitor, new motherboard, new gpu and new ram.. depdning on what you already got...

so to best aid you OP
**what is your ENTIRE current system list of all parts
***how large is your current spendable amount for an upgrade
**what is the amount you would be willing to spend per month to keep your pc up to date
**what is your prefered resolution, settings and resolution?

[Illusion of Progress]

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

the other argument is.. if you wait until your 1660 breaks... or does not run a game you just bought (at all or at a quality your satisfied with) you pretty much forced to upgrade right than an there at the price you have to pay than...

I'm not sure what your point is even supposed to be.

When you need a piece of hardware, for whatever reason (be it a failure or a desire for more performance), you always have to pick from whatever the market offers at that given time. You're not avoiding that by buying sooner than necessary, and if you're going to try and pretend that buying on your terms is better, it's not if you're doing it sooner than necessary. You typically get more performance for the same price the longer you wait, and if you're able to afford an upgrade before you need it in the first place, then you're also able to have that money set aside in case of failures.

Unless the market actually regresses at a later date, which happens but is typically rare and exclusive to certain products/price points temporarily, and not the entire market, then you always come out ahead the longer you wait.

Upgrading for more performance is fine.

Upgrading solely for the sake of changing a part after X amount of time, or to stay above someone else's personal minimum level of performance, is a waste.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

Nguyên văn bởi Illusion of Progress:

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

the other argument is.. if you wait until your 1660 breaks... or does not run a game you just bought (at all or at a quality your satisfied with) you pretty much forced to upgrade right than an there at the price you have to pay than...

I'm not sure what your point is even supposed to be.

When you need a piece of hardware, for whatever reason (be it a failure or a desire for more performance), you always have to pick from whatever the market offers at that given time. You're not avoiding that by buying sooner than necessary, and if you're going to try and pretend that buying on your terms is better, it's not if you're doing it sooner than necessary. You typically get more performance for the same price the longer you wait, and if you're able to afford an upgrade before you need it in the first place, then you're also able to have that money set aside in case of failures.

Unless the market actually regresses at a later date, which happens but is typically rare and exclusive to certain products/price points temporarily, and not the entire market, then you always come out ahead the longer you wait.

Upgrading for more performance is fine.

Upgrading solely for the sake of changing a part after X amount of time, or to stay above someone else's personal minimum level of performance, is a waste.

my way is better...

for by upgrading at set intervals (more or less) at an fixed pricepoint.. you prevent overspending one moment (aka having a lifestyle you cannot truelly afford)

but also from being like most wasting so much income of nonsesne that not truelly ad value.. 100 or even 200 or 300 more a month is easely wasted on takeout.. beers in the pub.. snacks and dosins other crap adding zero valye..

often those are the same idiots who arrive at your party without gift and constant beg for handouts "cause their dryer broke" despite a much better or equal income.

they are like the unwise lazy person.. who was lazy all spring.. eating the easy pickings.. lazy all summer picking the easy pickings lazy all winter picking the easy pickings.. than died and starved in the winter... while the person who worked planned and preserved did not have as easy lazy a life.. he worked hard all those seasons.. but he lived through that winter..

you PLAN finances and not like a manman only face issues as they arrive..


replacing stuff as they break is a TERRIBLE strategy.. broken stuff means you not get to pick the time of replacing them.. but if you say after 5 year I have saved for a new one.. you start around 4 years 10 months to look for a good replacement... rarely it will have broken before thatt... and you may even be able to sell your old one for some money or make somebody glad with it... but you are free of worry of everyt having to deal with broken stuff...


so to get the opimal game performance you not buy 1 pc and last it 10 years.. it be much better to buy 1 every 4 years for less for the average performance you experience will be much better...


pc parts come out with pretty predicatble intervals.. and basicly every 2d generation is a good momnent to uprrade.. so if you bought your last pc with an 3000 series gpu and you will upgrade next year with the release of 5000 series gpu..

if you own an 4000 series gpu...you sit out the 5000 series and buy again with the 6000 series...
and you should not be using the 2000 series or lower anymore without a really good reason..


its better to buy an 3060 and than an 5060 than to buy an 3090 and than not upgrade until you get an 8090... thats highly inefficient..


like I stated.. 25 euro per month can already get you on a quite solid 1 pc every 3.5 years plan... and will keep you always in that 60fps range.. though it be on the lower resolutions for the current gen... (luckely by now even lowend starts to move to 1440pp.. 1080p is basicly dead(

MOST money will not be spend on the part... but on electricty.. I have calculated it and in general over it';s lifespan I spend on c parts 4-5 times what I spend on purchasing them in my electricity bill.

(which is why more powerefficient parts matter a lot)
having twice the performance at same watt (which upgrading will get me) or the same performance at half the watt (which upgreading will get me) thus is FAR better investment to get the most out my money than "just stick with what I got..

I had a perfectly fine fridge.. flawlessly.. but it did cost me nearly 150 euro a year in power.. tossed it.. got a 800 euro new one.. that uses only 20 euro a year in power..

I now got that one 4 year.. and it has aditionally MUCH more space.. and features that old one did not have (like an ice dispensor..) so added value in quality of life.. while basicly already having earned back in power savings it's purchase price...

if new stuff gives double the experience or the same experience at much lower upkeep.. it makes NO economic sense to hold on to that old stuff ..

and upgreading your pc at regulair intervalls guarantees a stable and slowly improving gaming experience at an for you afordable cost per month.. (and often it boils more to the dicipline to not waste 30 euro onm something nocence.. I mean a single mcD meal you not really needed you craved a snack but you could have gone home and just ate a homecooled meal;.. or did you need to buy 6 beers in the pub or that extra large steak was a normal sized not also good?

and that crappy cup of joe.. that useless overpriced soda or candybar from a dispenser machine.. all those little things add up..

and having a goal to set x apart.. usually barely impacts day to day living but improves quality otherwise... for no more sudden shock amounts.. and never any credit card or debt again..

you can pay anything you want now full in cash.. and rarely have stuff break.. but when it does you have more than enough planned ahead to no sweat replace it anyway.. thats what good planning does... few things are surprises.. most devices have a quite predicatble lifespan... price to replace x... expected to want to use it y months = I reserve z per month for this.. done with anything.. sure a few things may break a bit early.. (which is why on top of all the z's added together you always toss another 1000 a year to save as "undefined for incidentility" + some may last fine a while longer... so it tends to level out..

but in general you stick to the plan.. and replace things when you have used them as long as you planned to.. and start to look for a good deal on a replacement...

[Illusion of Progress]

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

my way is better...

Uh-huh...

I'm glad you've found that a rigid hardware changing structure works for you, but pushing it as the only correct way to do it is silly.

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

for by upgrading at set intervals (more or less) at an fixed pricepoint.. you prevent overspending one moment (aka having a lifestyle you cannot truelly afford)

Or, you know... the money that you would have spent on an upgrade you may not yet need, could also instead saved/set aside to be used later? I really would have thought that was obvious. And then, if a failure happens in the meantime, you're covered.

I'm aware not everyone saves, but what often happens in reality and what can be done are two different things. You can't pretend like there isn't an answer in setting aside the same amount of money you're suggesting be spent to begin with. That's literally contradicting yourself.

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

you PLAN finances and not like a manman only face issues as they arrive..

I'm not sure what financial planning has to do with this, but anyone who starts declaring that the only correct way to do something is to spend before they want or need to has demonstrated that nobody should be taking financial advice from them.

If you were really wanting to give sound financial advise, you'd be saying that a savings should exist to cover for unexpected setbacks, and that you shouldn't be spending money unless a want or need exists for it (your advise is the opposite, it says spend before you may want or need to just because the schedule says so).

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

replacing stuff as they break is a TERRIBLE strategy..

Good thing I didn't suggest that as the intended strategy to strive for, huh?

Besides, if something does break, so what? Then you replace it. Stuff breaks, and that's part of reality. If it does happen to be older when it breaks, then it's probably less of an issue since you got your use out of it, you will have had longer to save, and replacing it with something equal or better will be that much cheaper.

[C1REX]

Nguyên văn bởi SavageHedgehog:

Or should I upgrade?

Final Fantasy 16 officially requires 8GB VRAM for 720p 30fps when your GPU only has 6GB.
Realistically the game needs 12GB for 1080p.

While you don't necessary need to upgrade, you won't be able to play all new games at native 1080p with stable 60fps and high settings. Some games may even refuse to work properly with missing textures or may keep crashing due to insufficient amount of video memory.

[Norman Schwarzkopf Jr.]

Nguyên văn bởi SavageHedgehog:

Or should I upgrade?

You should have upgraded years ago.......Some might call the 1650 and 1660 a GPU.

Most people call it a joke.
Its not even a good joke.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

Nguyên văn bởi Illusion of Progress:

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

my way is better...

Uh-huh...

I'm glad you've found that a rigid hardware changing structure works for you, but pushing it as the only correct way to do it is silly.

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

for by upgrading at set intervals (more or less) at an fixed pricepoint.. you prevent overspending one moment (aka having a lifestyle you cannot truelly afford)

Or, you know... the money that you would have spent on an upgrade you may not yet need, could also instead saved/set aside to be used later? I really would have thought that was obvious. And then, if a failure happens in the meantime, you're covered.

I'm aware not everyone saves, but what often happens in reality and what can be done are two different things. You can't pretend like there isn't an answer in setting aside the same amount of money you're suggesting be spent to begin with. That's literally contradicting yourself.

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

you PLAN finances and not like a manman only face issues as they arrive..

I'm not sure what financial planning has to do with this, but anyone who starts declaring that the only correct way to do something is to spend before they want or need to has demonstrated that nobody should be taking financial advice from them.

If you were really wanting to give sound financial advise, you'd be saying that a savings should exist to cover for unexpected setbacks, and that you shouldn't be spending money unless a want or need exists for it (your advise is the opposite, it says spend before you may want or need to just because the schedule says so).

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

replacing stuff as they break is a TERRIBLE strategy..

Good thing I didn't suggest that as the intended strategy to strive for, huh?

Besides, if something does break, so what? Then you replace it. Stuff breaks, and that's part of reality. If it does happen to be older when it breaks, then it's probably less of an issue since you got your use out of it, you will have had longer to save, and replacing it with something equal or better will be that much cheaper.

savings are somewhat irrelevant. (not entirely)
you can own 100k in savinds and zero loans and still have negative spending room..

but basicly.. what everyone should do is..

list anything you own (your lifestyle) on a list
now put behind those items the replacement cost
now put in months how long you estimate those items will last (from new to replacement)

now you can calculate what your lifestyle cost per month... you set that amount per month.

now if this calculation leaves you with to little to actually live of aka do groceries and such.. than you are living above your means.. and must make lifestyle changes..

but the great thing.. you now can do this BEFORE hitting financial ruin as you can now still correct this on paper... glad you found out you lwere living to large.. and now you can make cuts where it hurts you the least.. you scrap something.. you lower it's quality level in the future.. you extend how long you will use it (do not extend beyond what it can realisticly last do not gamble that way .. you can for many things find what is a realistic lifespan for things.. and best to not exceed your on paper useterm beyond that..

and thats how you balance your budget.. and even better everything is earmarked you know exactly how much you are allowed to spend on iten x.. should it need replacing..

ofcourse if you only start this wne your savings are 0 and all your stuff is already broken.. well than you will have to grow to your full potentiall.. basicly accept you for 1 lifespan will have to do without that item or with the crappy version you still have.. before permanrly following the replacement sceme for that item with the now alocated budget..when replacement date hits.. that bit hits 0.. but than you keep saving.. so you have tens of thousands in savings but NON of it free to use.. basicly all your stuff + all your savings = always the same value.. any writeoffs on your aging properties are exchanged for growth in savings and reverse any drop ion savings is paired with newly gained value in stuff... without that balance being broken..

ofcourse you can at any time sit down and alter your lifestyle deciede to remove or add psots.. increase or decrease posts.. all on paper years before they take effect.. with all thebenefits of that..

you not "save" you thus basicly "compensate for the writeoff of your fysical posenions with funds" but to do that properly you need to sit down long long ago..

can I afford this 200 euro pair of pants? you cannot tell by 50k in your savings account..

you can only tell by your lifestyle list of properties and writeoffs to see.. if what was earmarked for that post allows that 200 euro expense.. the current amount of savings is irrelevant to answer "can I afford this"

I not say HOW often OP needs to replace his pc.. or at what pricepoint.. but I say that the question should I replace depends on "what is your monly budget alocated to gaming at whats your set lifecycle?

does that prevent the decision to delay replacing.. no.. extra budget is no big issue.. but it does disencourage to that use that budget later for again spread out well the same amount = more valued experience than delay aka crappyfy your experience than spend above your budget once.. if you fix your spending on an affordable lifestyle thats much more pleasant than rich for a day.. poor the rest of the month..


should OP update.. what is is budget/month to replace
what is is timespan?
what is his expectations (aside runs new games./. what resultuon fps settings?

[Xuild]

don't listen to the other people, unlike them i actually own a 1660 and gosh they are a great card, honestly better than some rtx cards imo, (also a very beautiful card), even though it doesn't have the fancy features of rtx, its still quite good and runs minecraft shaders really well at 1080p with atleast 75 fps

just upgrade to a 3060 if you really need the extra performance as they are a good budget card (running one right now after upgrading from my 1660 since i needed to run vr)

[Tonepoet]

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

Would you still use an 980ti today? No you would certainly not.

I mean a 980 ti is a usable card. It's nowhere near this bad:

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

… but personally 15fps at 1080p and a heck of a lot of stutters and similair stuff would I not call "a pleasant gaming experience" so between -can run- and -can run well- is a vast difference.

At least not assuming lowest settings anyway. To get a full picture of perf. you need to stipulate F.P.S, resolution and settings, preferably on a per game basis.

[Illusion of Progress]

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

and thats how you balance your budget..

I'm still trying to figure out how this ended up at posts advising how to balance a budget. Nobody asked for financial advice. Someone asked if they should upgrade a piece of hardware. It's not that deep.

I said they should upgrade if they want/need to, but that they don't have to upgrade if they don't want/need to. Easy enough.

You called this reasoning "risky" because I wasn't aggressively pushing a suggestion to upgrade, because "what if the GTX 1660 Super breaks down" and "they'll save money if they spend more and upgrade right now" (?).

I'm really having trouble following this.

[mtono]

Nguyên văn bởi Illusion of Progress:

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

and thats how you balance your budget..

I'm still trying to figure out how this ended up at posts advising how to balance a budget. Nobody asked for financial advice. Someone asked if they should upgrade a piece of hardware. It's not that deep.

I said they should upgrade if they want/need to, but that they don't have to upgrade if they don't want/need to. Easy enough.

You called this reasoning "risky" because I wasn't aggressively pushing a suggestion to upgrade, because "what if the GTX 1660 Super breaks down" and "they'll save money if they spend more and upgrade right now" (?).

I'm really having trouble following this.

ok. so what gfx board would you recommend if you would have to renew a 1660 super? i say rtx 4070/12gb vram or amd 7800 xt/16 gb vram for about 500 euros/dollars. what do you say? i own amd rx 6600 and i think my suggested gfx boards are fast enough for games until 2026...all to the max(grafix related) in full hd.

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Nguyên văn bởi Illusion of Progress:

Nguyên văn bởi De Hollandse Ezel:

and thats how you balance your budget..

I'm still trying to figure out how this ended up at posts advising how to balance a budget. Nobody asked for financial advice. Someone asked if they should upgrade a piece of hardware. It's not that deep.

I said they should upgrade if they want/need to, but that they don't have to upgrade if they don't want/need to. Easy enough.

You called this reasoning "risky" because I wasn't aggressively pushing a suggestion to upgrade, because "what if the GTX 1660 Super breaks down" and "they'll save money if they spend more and upgrade right now" (?).

I'm really having trouble following this.

and amongst that advise I said.

yes op your stuff is old.

+
whats your monthy allocated hardware budgrt
+
whats your lifecycle plan
+
whats your usercase (what resultion, fps and settings you desire)
I have yet to read a reply..


if he sais oh I have 2 grand saved up for a new pc.. and I wonder buy now or later.. and I want just the best bang for buck.. than my advise be diffrrent than if..

"i live in a poor nation.. of 300 dollar a month income.. pc parts are really expensive for me.. so I only get them when I really have too.."

thats why the talk of budget.. i cannot give advise on his question without knowing his budget and usercase.

but for most ussercases yes the 1660 would be so old it is high overdue for an upgrade.

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Nguyên văn bởi tyraNT:

Nguyên văn bởi Illusion of Progress:

I'm still trying to figure out how this ended up at posts advising how to balance a budget. Nobody asked for financial advice. Someone asked if they should upgrade a piece of hardware. It's not that deep.

I said they should upgrade if they want/need to, but that they don't have to upgrade if they don't want/need to. Easy enough.

You called this reasoning "risky" because I wasn't aggressively pushing a suggestion to upgrade, because "what if the GTX 1660 Super breaks down" and "they'll save money if they spend more and upgrade right now" (?).

I'm really having trouble following this.

ok. so what gfx board would you recommend if you would have to renew a 1660 super? i say rtx 4070/12gb vram or amd 7800 xt/16 gb vram for about 500 euros/dollars. what do you say? i own amd rx 6600 and i think my suggested gfx boards are fast enough for games until 2026...all to the max(grafix related) in full hd.

a user that in thr xx60 priverange will not move to the xx70 pricerange certainly not with todays prices.

I would recommend depending on budget.. a 2d hand 2080/2080s/2080ti or 3070 or better.

or to wait a little and get an 5060 when released.. or cheap 4060 on a good sale an 7600xt is also a good fit.

[mtono]

ok. thx.