9900k to 7600x3d

[Soulreaver]

I think I just need some verification.

For pure gaming performance the 7600x3d will be far better that's for sure
but how is it for general desktop use and browsing?

I don't do noteworthy productivity on my private PC so that's no real bother.
A bit of C and R coding, sometimes a bit of 3D modeling for my 3d printer (so no animations).

I think this could be a worthwhile price to performance upgrade especially for gaming?

Regarding gaming.
I'm mainly in the 60-100fps range I prefer details way over super high fps.

[Lord Flashheart]

As it means an AM5 motherboard, and DDR5, then I suggest a bit more cash for the 9800X3D. I understand the benchmarks are exceptionally good.

[Soulreaver]

Yeah you might be right about this.

If I consider the total upgrade cost it would make more sense (I didn't run the numbers yet). Especially because I'm already more on the premium side when it comes to tech (4080/4k Panel/premium mouse, etc.).
Saving 200€ on a CPU sounds pretty silly.

But paying 75% more for ~20% more performance also sounds pretty dumb. Considering I mainly care about my 1% lows and ray-/pathtracing (very CPU intensive).

I still like being reasonable with my spending. Generally I buy everything discounted 20-30%. So price to performance is a major factor for me. I don't like spending for the sake of spending.

[Lord Flashheart]

There is also the economics of how long you will need to wait before a big upgrade after that.
Also AMD seems to keeps making CPUs for the same sockets for quite a while. With AM5, we will see.

[Lixire]

I went from a 9900K to 7800X3D with using a 3080 as my GPU.
performance gains were giant across the board, especially across competitive games or MMOs.

the 7600X3D is a Micro Center exclusive isn't? I would be honest, aim at the 9800X3D or if you can find a 7800X3D at a discounted price
tho I do believe that if you are upgrading, you shouldn't drop in core count even if Zen4 is far ahead in terms of IPC compared to an ancient design like Skylake (the 7600X3D Is 6c/12t, 7800x3d and 9800x3d are 8c/16t)

[_I_]

Originally posted by Lord Flashheart:

There is also the economics of how long you will need to wait before a big upgrade after that.
Also AMD seems to keeps making CPUs for the same sockets for quite a while. With AM5, we will see.

while this is true
the newer cpus need the newer chipset, which would mean getting a new mobo anyway

but if you put an older cpu in a newer board it will still perform as good as the cpu can
but a newer cpu in older chipset will held back by the chipset or pci-e ver or other things

vrm config is also another thing thats often overlooked, when putting a high max tdp cpu with weak vrm config, it will limit the cpus performance because the board cannot give the cpu the power it needs

the 9800x3d would work in a a620 chipset board, but its performance would be about the same or lower than a r5 7600

[BlueBangkok]

I would say it's a no brainer, if you want an upgrade and can afford it. Both 7600X3D and 9800X3D will be much more powerful than 9900K in everything, be it games or productivity. And you will need to change motherboard and RAM regardless of what modern CPU you upgrade into.

The problem with 9800X3D is that it's sold out everywhere, so maybe you can get an R5 7600 with the plan to drop in 9800X3D later when it's readily available. Even the 7600 will be ~30% faster in gaming than 9900K, and sometimes probably more than that.

[smokerob79]

the 7600x3d and motherboard will cost what the 9800x3d is going for as just the chip.....real world it would be a great upgrade to the 7600 given how old his current platform is.....

also i think a lot of you missed the fact he is after the 7600X3d version only being sold at micro center......

[Soulreaver]

First of all.

I'm from Germany. So there's no Microcenter. We got the 7600X3D for a month or two now. :D

Second

I will go budget or all in. The 7800X3D is an inbetween for me. For 100€ less than the 9800X3D there is no way I'd go with the 7800X3D.

Third

Right now I'm considering getting a 7600X3D and a good Mobo and in 2 or 3 years switch to the latest CPU that Mobo supports. If I go for a Z690 or whatever the AMD equivalent is I think I won't have any issues upgrading later on?

Fourth

Thanks a lot guys for all your replys <3

[CaptObvious75]

Unless what you do requires more cores, go with the 7600x3d. I personally run a 7600x with a 7900xt and find it to be plenty of CPU for 120fps gaming.

[Corona Scurrae]

it's not good value. if you can get it for 200 quid and you don't mind the problems that come with amd, then I could cautiously recommend it.
wait until the prices settle and if you can wait longer, then be patient until 2026 because at that point we are going to see competition between the players again.

but if you want to listen to the well-informed users in this discussion ( sarcasm ), then by all means ignore my post.

[Lixire]

Originally posted by 10PushUpsToRedemption:

it's not good value. if you can get it for 200 quid and you don't mind the problems that come with amd, then I could cautiously recommend it.
wait until the prices settle and if you can wait longer, then be patient until 2026 because at that point we are going to see competition between the players again.

but if you want to listen to the well-informed users in this discussion ( sarcasm ), then by all means ignore my post.

What is really the issue with AMD at this point? if anything, Intel is having a terrible time right now with being sued over the failures of Raptor Lake (13th and 14th gen CPUs) and Arrow Lake is hot garbage when it comes to gaming performance

[Corona Scurrae]

Originally posted by Lixire:

Originally posted by 10PushUpsToRedemption:

it's not good value. if you can get it for 200 quid and you don't mind the problems that come with amd, then I could cautiously recommend it.
wait until the prices settle and if you can wait longer, then be patient until 2026 because at that point we are going to see competition between the players again.

but if you want to listen to the well-informed users in this discussion ( sarcasm ), then by all means ignore my post.

What is really the issue with AMD at this point? if anything, Intel is having a terrible time right now with being sued over the failures of Raptor Lake (13th and 14th gen CPUs) and Arrow Lake is hot garbage when it comes to gaming performance

plenty of bricked amd cpus with the same issue. a lot of people own 13th and 14th gen cpus and their cpus haven't degraded yet. could be luck or it could be that they are well-informed.

have a nice day!

[Lixire]

Originally posted by 10PushUpsToRedemption:

Originally posted by Lixire:

What is really the issue with AMD at this point? if anything, Intel is having a terrible time right now with being sued over the failures of Raptor Lake (13th and 14th gen CPUs) and Arrow Lake is hot garbage when it comes to gaming performance

plenty of bricked amd cpus with the same issue. a lot of people own 13th and 14th gen cpus and their cpus haven't degraded yet. could be luck or it could be that they are well-informed.

have a nice day!

There was an issue with the 7800X3D at first back in it's launch that motherboards did shove too much voltage but that one has been fixed quite quickly through a BIOS update and AMD forcing all of the OEMs and AIBs to follow their own spec and nothing ever since

Raptor Lake? an absolute disaster with every 13th and 14th gen CPU was pretty much guaranteed to degrade and Intel had 0 clue how to handle the RMA process of those + causing trouble for OEMs as it did affect them too + only recently after like months. they did figure out how to solve the issue

Not sure why are you trying to shill for Intel as Raptor Lake was a stability nightmare and Arrow Lake is a mess on its own when it comes to gaming performance but also general system stability

[Corona Scurrae]

Originally posted by Lixire:

Originally posted by 10PushUpsToRedemption:

plenty of bricked amd cpus with the same issue. a lot of people own 13th and 14th gen cpus and their cpus haven't degraded yet. could be luck or it could be that they are well-informed.

have a nice day!

There was an issue with the 7800X3D at first back in it's launch that motherboards did shove too much voltage but that one has been fixed quite quickly through a BIOS update and AMD forcing all of the OEMs and AIBs to follow their own spec and nothing ever since

Raptor Lake? an absolute disaster with every 13th and 14th gen CPU was pretty much guaranteed to degraded and Intel had 0 clue how to handle the RMA process of those + causing trouble for OEMs as it did affect them too + only recently after like months. they did figure out how to solve the issue

Not sure why are you trying to shill for Intel as Raptor Lake was a stability nightmare and Arrow Lake is a mess on its own when it comes to gaming performance but also general system stability

odd then that many never had any issues. again it can be luck or we could look at intel's statement and notice that every cpu above 65W tdp is affected. I let you come to a conclusion by yourself since I assume you are smart and don't need to be spoon fed.

btw the 7800x3d wasn't the only cpu affected and that issue hasn't been fixed yet but if accusing me in a public forum, helps with validation then by all means ignore me.
I can sympathize. if all info I consumed came from clueless tech journalists, I'd probably join the amd circle-**** too.

have a nice day.

[Lixire]

Originally posted by 10PushUpsToRedemption:

Originally posted by Lixire:

There was an issue with the 7800X3D at first back in it's launch that motherboards did shove too much voltage but that one has been fixed quite quickly through a BIOS update and AMD forcing all of the OEMs and AIBs to follow their own spec and nothing ever since

Raptor Lake? an absolute disaster with every 13th and 14th gen CPU was pretty much guaranteed to degraded and Intel had 0 clue how to handle the RMA process of those + causing trouble for OEMs as it did affect them too + only recently after like months. they did figure out how to solve the issue

Not sure why are you trying to shill for Intel as Raptor Lake was a stability nightmare and Arrow Lake is a mess on its own when it comes to gaming performance but also general system stability

odd then that many never had any issues. again it can be luck or we could look at intel's statement and notice that every cpu above 65W tdp is affected. I let you come to a conclusion by yourself since I assume you are smart and don't need to be spoon fed.

btw the 7800x3d wasn't the only cpu affected and that issue hasn't been fixed yet but if accusing me in a public forum, helps with validation then by all means ignore me.
I can sympathize. if all info I consumed came from clueless tech journalists, I'd probably join the amd circle-**** too.

have a nice day.

>odd then that many never had any issues
>we could look at intel's statement and notice that every cpu above 65W tdp is affected
Yeah.. Keep with whatever you are on. if the issue wasn't widespread then Intel wouldn't have given a statement on it and neither SIs or OEMs had to tell the users about it

Show the sources to your claims and we can talk about them.
It's not about "AMD good, Intel bad"
When company made horrible products (regardless if its Intel or AMD) then they should be called out for it and the buyer should be aware of his options to make the best decision for themselves

I do think that the 7600X3D isn't really a great value CPU (300$ for 6c/12t) but that will be a big increase in performance over his current i9 9900K