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Oh okay thanks for your tip! I think I want to change the GPU first and see if it makes any different :)
I bought my computer in parts. You know, a computer case, CPU, PSU, the motherboard and other stuff that came with the package. I haven't really thought about changing the motherboard because when I changed the CPU from a Intel Core i3 to a Intel Core i7, the CPU fan that came with Intel Core i7 to a Noctua NH-U9B SE2 and the PSU from be Quiet! 450 W to a Corsair RM 750x they told me that I should be able to play games like Skyrim.
When I bought my computer they said I only needed to upgrade my BIOS, install the new CPU and I was ready to go and play any game I could.
I have also send an email to the game creators and they said that it wasn't something wrong with my computer except I have Windows 10 and those games I played aren't compatible and they recommended that I should play games with Windows 7 or 8 that meet those game specifications, if you know what I mean :)
Or is the case all cramped up and congested?
Just so you have a reference with FC4 and your 750ti ^, 750ti is close to the bottom of the barrel and always has been.
A suggestion, take fc4 and make it your test game, run HWMonitor while playing. Your RM 750x is a good quality psu, unless it's broken, there is no problem with it delivering ample power to your pc, you could put any single gpu on that psu.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_4790k_processor_5_ghz_review_a_silicon_lottery,8.html
A heavily overclocked 4790k ^ hits 81c under load and is considered ok.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_4790K/6.html
Stock 4790k 74c ^.
Hopefully that clears up some of the confusion ^.
Ps, win 10 64bit works perfectly fine on all my games including FC4.
Pss, here's your cooler at different cpu volts https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Noctua/NH-U9B_SE2/5.html
No, the air-flow is pretty bad and it is pretty cramped (-_-)
I have only one fan inside my case. It's Fractal Design Silent Series R2 120mm and my computer case have these dimensions: 175 x 355 x 411 mm
I have a Noctua NH-U9B with the dimensions 95 x 125 x 120 mm, you can actually understand that the heatsink take alot of space + I have a Corsair RM 750x that have these dimensions: 150 x 86 x 180 mm
These two takes most place in my computer case and because of that the airflow is pretty bad even if I have a Fractal Design Silent Series R2 fan inside my computer, which is highly recommended by other users and a Noctua NH-U9B, which is also highly recommended by other users.
According to other users who have Noctua NH-U9B they say that you can get really good airflow in your computer and at the same time it's cooling down the CPU very good. According to other users.
According to other users who have Fractal Design Silent Series R2 fan installed inside their computer case says that it is one of the best cooling fan for your case that gives you a good airflow.
But here is the thing: I have both of them inside my computer but as soon as I close the lid to my computer case, start it up, start a game (I take Skyrim as an example) and it shuts down completely.
Well... I forgot to mention in my other reviews that my computer doesn't really "shuts down" when I play Skyrim or any other games.
When I want to create a new character in Skyrim my monitor gets black and it says "No signal". But I can hear the music playing, birds, the wind and other sounds from Skyrim. The game is still running but I can't see a sh*t!
After just a few seconds all sounds cease and just a few seconds after that I can hear all the fans stopped running inside my computer. No sound from the CPU fan, no sound from the GPU or the case fan.
But here is the weird thing: my power button on the case have led lights around it. Well... When these things happens the led light is still on which means I have power but the CPU, GPU and the case fan doesn't running.
What I have to do is to hold the power button just a few second and start it up again and it acts just like it should be. But these things occurs ONLY if I have high settings in my games and I'm forced to play with medium settings. That's the only way to prevent my computer from shutting down all suddenly.
I don't really want that because I want to play games with high settings. I know, I sound like a 5 year old spoiled child but hey, everyone wants high settings in their game, right? ;P
When I do other things like being on the internet, watching Youtube clips, playing on the internet or listen to music. Those kind of things works just fine. The only problem is when I have high settings in my games and I can only play those games with medium settings but it kinda ruin the gaming experience, if you know what I mean :)
I think I have to buy a new case to a bigger one so I can get better airflow, buy another case fan and a new GPU. IF these things can solve my problem I don't need to spend my money on a new motherboard (^_^)
I'm actually pretty fond in my ASUS B85M-G + I'm more used to it :P
Is the GPU new? Or did you carry it over from your previous build?
In any case the GPU is pretty weak to be honest. Normally it should run those games on ultra etc. settings but at like very low 10-15 whatever FPS. The shutting down is kinda weird though.
I had the same problem, but my PC would just shutoff totally, which doesn't seem to be the case for you.
I'd suggest taking your PC to the computer shop you mentioned and explaining the repair guys what exactly is your problem.
Normally what they will do is disassemble the parts and use them one by one in another system so see what really is causing the semi-shutdown issue.
Or if you have a friend who is willing to help you in checking the parts individually by yourself on their system, then go for it. Saves you the money, plus you can learn a thing or two along the way.
Ideally you'd want to check your GFX card on another system(same config is okay, but not required) and run the same games that cause your PC to go into that vegetative state. If that happens on another system as well, then you know that the GFX card is definitely causing issues. You can then proceed to test the CPU and Mobo just to be sure.
It'll take some time and is a bit tedious but you're at least guaranteed to know the cause and save the money.
But if it sounds too much hassle(which it can for non-experienced users), then there's the simple option to take it to the computer shop and get it checked by the repair guys, explain your problem to them and they should help you out. Ask them if it's okay to see the repair process or not.
No point in running unnecessary stuff like stress tests and whatnot. Seem like a severe issue if it's happening every time, and if I were you, I wouldn't risk damaging any parts by running stuff that wouldn't help me resolve the problem.
And since you want to play games at max settings and are DEAD SURE that you are willing to get a new GFX card -- then there is no point in getting the 750Ti checked, just replace it, see if the problem reappears or not, and if it does then there's the issue is some other component for sure.
Also, about the case -- getting a good roomy case is kinda of a one time investment, much like getting a higher wattage PSU.
If I may suggest a new case -- check out the CM Master Case 5 or Master Case 5 Pro for windowed side-panel and some more stuff. It's a pretty neat case, extremely modular and practical, has loads of space, looks elegant and decently priced(at least in my country). Although there might be similar options, but I just love the way it looks and it's build quality is just over the top.
Thank you so much for your tips and advice! When I have time I will definitely go back to the shop where I bought my computer and ask them if they can take a look at the GPU and all the other components!
I will also ask them what case they recommend and if they sell one I might buy it if it have plenty of space.
I will also take a look at the case you mentioned! (^_^)
When it comes to the GPU I will definitely buy a new one because if I have a powerful GPU and my computer still acts that weird, then I have at least a powerful GPU that might come in handy in the future, if you know how I think :)
The IHS is limited to around 74C, but T JUNCTION (the cores) can handle 95C for days/weeks on end.
Due to Intel publishing T IHS this is, sadly, a very common misconception.
It doesn't sound like a CPU problem at all.
It's either graphics card not getting enough watts or the Power Supply Unit is faulty or a fake unit.
Correct; yes most seem to think the max is 74*C but that just in not true at all.
A majority of Intel Desktop and Mobile CPUs have a operating max (before thermal throttling kicks in) is around 95*C; with the exception of some Celeron/Pentium class of CPUs.
IMO don't ask them to recommend you a case; rather do your homework on a few Mid-Tower/Full-Tower cases and go in with the one you want that has most, if not all the features desired and fits your budget.
I personally like the simple and elegant design of the Master Case 5 which is why I suggested it, plus it's modular features are a godsend!
There are plenty of other great cases out there depending on how you like them -- flashy, simple, out of the box designs and what not.
Just get the one that has decent expandability(or simply put modularity) and good features.
In case you are in confusion, check this playlist for a plethora of decent cases, very well reviewed and explained: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLknCNmc8uMa4w2kK5ybqLWss2tS3I2VNo
Also check this link, some recently reviewed cases aren't in that playlist: https://www.youtube.com/user/HardwareCanucks/search?query=Case
Haha okay! I won't ask them what they recommend! xD
But if I'm going to buy a new case, is it just to move all my current components into the new bigger case?
My motherboard (ASUS B85M-G) is 233 mm width and 193 mm deep. Could it fit inside a Fractal Design Define R4 (Black) that have these dimensions (B x H x D): 232 x 464 x 523 mm and should I be able to get good airflow with this case? :)
In fact it won't be a problem even if you have to change the mobo to an ATX form-factor one.
Also if you are willing to fork out a bit more(~20-30$), the R5 is even more refined and more modular than the R4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRZIdbdcIiU
Thanks for the tip but I looked into the specification and compared Fractal Design Define R4 with Fractal Design Define R5 and according to the information I have gathered it is true that you can do more stuff with the R5 but the problem is this is a little bit smaller than R4.
The R4 have these dimensions (B x H x D): 232 x 464 x 523 mm while the R5 have these dimensions (B x H x D): 232 x 451 x 521 mm. It's just a little bit smaller than the R4 but since I'm pretty fussy with these things every margin counts.
Because the R5 is just a little bit small it can only hold a graphic card with the maximum lenght: 310 mm while the R4 can hold a graphic card with the maximum lenght: 430 mm.
If I'm going to buy ASUS GeForce GTX 970 Strix DirectCU II OC (this GPU is 280 mm long) I want as much space I can inside my computer case for better airflow :)
GPUs of around 11 - 13 inches are of zero issues.
I would not even look at the R4 or DEFINE S
Plenty of room with modular drive cages. Great airflow AND sound dampening material (typically you have to make a choice, but not here).
I definitely have no issue with room inside the Define R5. I actually have plenty of space for more hardware.