Webhelper sucking 1600 MB OF RAM

[car]

I just want to write my own client at this point. I already purged literally anything I could from the "new" bloated library and cleared the stubborn crap like news with a custom theme. My home tab is literally empty, like its benefits to the community.


This was already an issue when this pointless update first launched, I had seen 2.2 GB of a "Friends List" back then, I don't know what joke I should add to this. Anyway I've gone to extreme options to reduce the dead space that is 400-800 MB of ram by stuff I don't care about, yet my purged library lags when I scroll my mere 250 games with an i5 8250U (and steam is in low performance mode mind you) and half the time half the library buttons don't work but that's besides the point since I don't respect the developers enough to expect stuff to work anyway. It's just been a little over a year, right? They'll fix things, eventually...

[[N]ebsun]

Yep.
Steam needs to separate out the minimum required to launch / play / manage games from the other unnecessary bloat.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It's normal. And it's not that much really. Restart Steam Client every so often.

[car]

The fact that it's normal is exactly what I'm complaining about. Integration of chromium into the library was bad decision, none of this was "normal" before and shouldn't be now, because it doesn't justify whatever positive that has come of it.

[nullable]

If you're fussing over RAM usage maybe you need more RAM. Not liking how much RAM something is using isn't necessarily a problem, or something the developers are going to monkey with.

[car]

i5 8250U is a laptop cpu you know, with warranty and all. But you're right, I don't expect anything from the developers I as said, I'm just waiting a unicorn of a person to share a config patch or something to at least tame whatever is going on. Just wanted to put my situation here.
(Also page swap micro stutters in games are NOT fun)

[car]

I should mention that -no-browser launch argument is a big compromise since workshop becomes inaccessible in sandbox games, library also only works in small mode since regular library is part of the browser for some reason.

[Washell]

Originally posted by ærobot:

half the time half the library buttons don't work

Did they work before you did your purging?

I'd love to sympathize, but the client only uses ~200MB on my system and is smooth with double the amount of games.

You seem to be someone sticking his hands into the guts of things to improve them, might it be you're actually making some poor decisions and causing you're own problems?

Originally posted by ærobot:

i5 8250U is a laptop cpu you know, with warranty and all.

Upgrading RAM rarely, if ever invalidates the warranty.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Laptops retain their warranty should you upgrade the ram or drives. Who comes up with non-sense that says otherwise is just foolish.

[car]

Originally posted by Washell:

Originally posted by ærobot:

half the time half the library buttons don't work

Did they work before you did your purging?

I'd love to sympathize, but the client only uses ~200MB on my system and is smooth with double the amount of games.

You seem to be someone sticking his hands into the guts of things to improve them, might it be you're actually making some poor decisions and causing you're own problems?

Originally posted by ærobot:

i5 8250U is a laptop cpu you know, with warranty and all.

Upgrading RAM rarely, if ever invalidates the warranty.

Thank you for your kind words. I sometimes switch back to the default theme to see if things change, but RAM usage is still inconsistent. Either it's not affected by the news shelf that much or I'm screwing up something else like you said, at least I feel better keeping it. And you may be right about the warranty but 16gb lpddr3 going for a such prices in the place I happen to live in, I'd rather try my luck writing a client from scratch, legal or not.

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Laptops retain their warranty should you upgrade the ram or drives. Who comes up with non-sense that says otherwise is just foolish.

Funny that, my drive slot has a thicc metal placeholder bolted to the motherboard from below, so... And ram cover screw slot also goes behind some plate somewhere but don't remember exactly where. Technically legal I guess, thanks Lenovo.

edt. laptop using m.2, has empty but inaccessible hdd slot

CORRECTION: So that was a blind claim. I should've looked it up before giving eye memory from a year ago. And if RAM was to be inaccessible it would've been just soldered now that I think about it. Sorry.

[car]

Maybe the RAM is bad in general and causes memory leaks? I don't know how much RAM quality matters in memory leaks but the trend I see is usually fast doubling, like 200 MB to 400 MB in seconds, then 400-800 sometimes, and just witnessing 800-1600 in less then 10 seconds while all I've been doing was scrolling down to my recent games with extreme stuttering tipped me off to dump all this here. Then again, only happens with steam...

[_I_]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Laptops retain their warranty should you upgrade the ram or drives. Who comes up with non-sense that says otherwise is just foolish.

apple

but most other can easily be upgraded without voiding their warranty

[car]

I can still screw the warranty since it's almost due anyway but I still have to buy the ram which costs as much as four full price games here. I also half-expect the little whiny psu of the thing will die within a month of expiry like the Tab S i had.

By the way thank you all for taking your time to respond, I'm glad people like you go around help others.

[Zukabazuka]

Maybe laptop handle memory differently than PC, but for me I have never seen this jump just by scrolling through my game list. This is not a normal problem, You would have far more post than this.

[Witski]

it's not a laptop issue, it's like that for everyone since steam updated their ui and stuff, for reference my clients uses almost 1 gb of ram which it's a lot no matter the amount of ram you have.

[Illusion of Progress]

I suppose it depends on how you use the client.

My client pretty much just sits in the library, and sometimes the downloads page. Occasionally I may check the community content or something else, but rarely. So my RAM use numbers do stay rather low (few hundred MB or so most of the time I'd guess, but I don't monitor these numbers). Right now, 9 services for Steam collectively are below 350 to 400 MB. If I check the community content section of one of the games, it starts going up.

I mostly visit the store and community in my web browser rather than the Steam client. If you start using it for more of the browser/web accessible things it can do, well... the internet and browsers are a much heavier place/things than in the past, so I suppose 1.6 GB is a bit high but probably not unheard of for that (though I'm using less, at between 500 MB to 600 MB, in Firefox right now on this page, but it's currently the only tab I have open with it). Remember, all of this "on demand" dynamically loaded content of many modern web places/programs adds to both CPU and RAM needs, and it will fluctuate as it adds (and maybe discards) some.

Not a coder and can't speak for Steam's efficiency, but those are my observations/numbers at the moment.

Originally posted by ærobot:

Maybe the RAM is bad in general and causes memory leaks?

Unlikely. Memory leaks come more from software issues, not faulty hardware, so your RAM itself is probably fine.