Is my friend's build good enough so he can buy parts soon?

[Memes]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gQtwWt
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor]
**CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler]
**Motherboard** | [MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard]
**Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory]
**Storage** | [Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State
**Storage** | [TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](
**Video Card** | [Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card]
**Case** | [Montech KING 95 PRO ATX Mid Tower Case]
**Power Supply** | [be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply]

His gaming laptop died recently and I made a build for him so he can game on a 1440p 165hz monitor he already owned. Tried to maximize his budget so he can get good perfomance out from the build and he wouldn't want to upgrade in the next upcoming years. Is the build I did for him good enough so he can buy the parts next week cause Amazon Prime Day and maybe other deals pop up around that time. Any recommendations and feedback would be appreciated

Some notes to let you guys know -

On PCPartPicker theres a note saying "A USB 3.2 Gen 2 to USB 3.2 Gen 1 header adapter is required." Search online and not sure which adapter I need so any good adapters out there that I should use?

He insisted on sticking with nvidia instead but the difference between an AMD card like the 7900 XTX is almost like the same or $100 difference.

I went with the Montech King 95 Pro instead of the prefered Montech Air 903 Max because the GPU I went with is bigger than other 4080S and is recommended for 35mm straight cabling to prevent stress and damages to the GPU and the Air 903 clearance wouldnt be a problem with the spacing so I just went with the bigger case to prevent that.

Should I add extra fans to the Montech King 95 Pro like extra exhaust fans on the top or leave it as it is?

Would the gpu I went with or any other 4080S out there would cause sagging to it and if so any good GPU support braces out there that would fit with the 4080S cause the 4080S came with one but might not be long enough cause of the PC Case.

Lastly should I spend extra on an AIO or the air cooler I chose should be good enough for the CPU? Read online that the 7800X3D is cooler that an AIO is not needed plus I own one to use on a 5800X3D thats why I went with the air cooler instead.

[C1REX]

It’s nice. Very nice build but I hope he is getting amazing deals when buying high tier just before new Ryzens and potentially new GeFoforces coming out.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Memes:

Lastly should I spend extra on an AIO or the air cooler I chose should be good enough for the CPU? Read online that the 7800X3D is cooler that an AIO is not needed plus I own one to use on a 5800X3D thats why I went with the air cooler instead.

I personally went with an AIO but a good air cooler is probably more sensible.
The 7800x3D is an interesting CPU for cooling. It draws very little power while having relatively high 120W TDP.

[Memes]

Oprindeligt skrevet af C1REX:

It’s nice. Very nice build but I hope he is getting amazing deals when buying high tier just before new Ryzens and potentially new GeFoforces coming out.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Memes:

Lastly should I spend extra on an AIO or the air cooler I chose should be good enough for the CPU? Read online that the 7800X3D is cooler that an AIO is not needed plus I own one to use on a 5800X3D thats why I went with the air cooler instead.

I personally went with an AIO but a good air cooler is probably more sensible.
The 7800x3D is an interesting CPU for cooling. It draws very little power while having relatively high 120W TDP.

what aio did you go for? if theres a good discount on aio maybe let my friend know but I told him its not really needed plus curve optimizer would help with the temps as well

[C1REX]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af C1REX:

It’s nice. Very nice build but I hope he is getting amazing deals when buying high tier just before new Ryzens and potentially new GeFoforces coming out.


I personally went with an AIO but a good air cooler is probably more sensible.
The 7800x3D is an interesting CPU for cooling. It draws very little power while having relatively high 120W TDP.

what aio did you go for? if theres a good discount on aio maybe let my friend know but I told him its not really needed plus curve optimizer would help with the temps as well

Arctic Liquid Freezer 420.
It’s considered to be the best in the world while costing less than big Noctua.

Just don’t get 420 if you can’t fit it on top and very few cases are humongous enough for that. 360 is plenty and mounting in front is sub optimal for GPU temps.

https://youtu.be/zfffNRTOZCc?si=zp-3uMfbzAgwrtT-

[Memes]

Oprindeligt skrevet af C1REX:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Memes:

what aio did you go for? if theres a good discount on aio maybe let my friend know but I told him its not really needed plus curve optimizer would help with the temps as well

Arctic Liquid Freezer 420.
It’s considered to be the best in the world while costing less than big Noctua.

Just don’t get 420 if you can’t fit it on top and very few cases are humongous enough for that. 360 is plenty and mounting in front is sub optimal for GPU temps.

https://youtu.be/zfffNRTOZCc?si=zp-3uMfbzAgwrtT-

I had my eye on the Arctic AIO especially the 360mm but saw the AMD installation was very tedious so I just went with an air cool instead. What are your temps on regular usage and gaming?

[C1REX]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Memes:

I had my eye on the Arctic AIO especially the 360mm but saw the AMD installation was very tedious so I just went with an air cool instead. What are your temps on regular usage and gaming?

Installation is easy and it’s the only cooler on the market that provides offset mounting for AMD CPUs by default. Noctua also has offset mounting but it’s an option you buy from them separately.

Offset mounting is recommended for AMD cpus as the chipset layout is not symmetrical and the heat dissipation is the highest below the center.

On the other hand it’s just an option that gives 1-3C better temp. Nothing major.

My 7800x3D usually stays below 50C.
Somewhere closer to 60C while gaming and around 70C when running all core cinebench test for 10minutes. I’m very happy with the cooler but I would be happy with a $40 dual tower air cooler as well. My other PC has a Noctua cooler.

[Caldari Ghost]

yeah it's solid. I'm glad you ditched the Corsair psu. That nvme storage will fill up fast though, are you sure you don't want to put a 4 tb in there? Maybe a 4 tb sata ssd would be more cost effective.

If you can get away with lighter cooling on the 7800x3d, then an air cooler will provide more peace of mind over an aio, as you won't have to worry about it leaking and short circuiting your GPU or anything else.

Also, you said your friend won't want to upgrade for a good while, then you might want to consider using ptm7950 instead of regular thermal paste on the CPU. That way you won't have to worry about needing to replace the paste every few years.

[_I_]

same build as op, using filters can save about $100
cheaper drive, ram, gpu, and maybe psu if a sale pops up before you buy it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yHD69c

[Memes]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Calamari Toast:

yeah it's solid. I'm glad you ditched the Corsair psu. That nvme storage will fill up fast though, are you sure you don't want to put a 4 tb in there? Maybe a 4 tb sata ssd would be more cost effective.

If you can get away with lighter cooling on the 7800x3d, then an air cooler will provide more peace of mind over an aio, as you won't have to worry about it leaking and short circuiting your GPU or anything else.

Also, you said your friend won't want to upgrade for a good while, then you might want to consider using ptm7950 instead of regular thermal paste on the CPU. That way you won't have to worry about needing to replace the paste every few years.

Would it be a big difference going with the regular thermal paste like the Thermalright TF-7 instead of the ptm7950? Corsair's psu prices for 850W is doodoo so I went with the be quiet good pricing plus it comes with the 12vhpwr cable as well

[Memes]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Calamari Toast:

yeah it's solid. I'm glad you ditched the Corsair psu. That nvme storage will fill up fast though, are you sure you don't want to put a 4 tb in there? Maybe a 4 tb sata ssd would be more cost effective.

If you can get away with lighter cooling on the 7800x3d, then an air cooler will provide more peace of mind over an aio, as you won't have to worry about it leaking and short circuiting your GPU or anything else.

Also, you said your friend won't want to upgrade for a good while, then you might want to consider using ptm7950 instead of regular thermal paste on the CPU. That way you won't have to worry about needing to replace the paste every few years.

the bequiet psu is out of stock and wouldnt come on time. Would the SeaSonic Focus GX-850 ATX 3.0 850W [pcpartpicker.com] be a good alternative? Also, how come I should avoid Corsair's psu?

[Caldari Ghost]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Calamari Toast:

yeah it's solid. I'm glad you ditched the Corsair psu. That nvme storage will fill up fast though, are you sure you don't want to put a 4 tb in there? Maybe a 4 tb sata ssd would be more cost effective.

If you can get away with lighter cooling on the 7800x3d, then an air cooler will provide more peace of mind over an aio, as you won't have to worry about it leaking and short circuiting your GPU or anything else.

Also, you said your friend won't want to upgrade for a good while, then you might want to consider using ptm7950 instead of regular thermal paste on the CPU. That way you won't have to worry about needing to replace the paste every few years.

the bequiet psu is out of stock and wouldnt come on time. Would the SeaSonic Focus GX-850 ATX 3.0 850W [pcpartpicker.com] be a good alternative? Also, how come I should avoid Corsair's psu?

seasonic is what i would recommend, its what i use myself. its not so much that corsair is bad, its that seasonic is much more specialized in their products and so there is a higher expectation for them to perform well and be reliable. corsair covers such a wide range of products that i would never look to them as a first option for anything. jack of all trades, master of none sort of deal.

looking closer at the 7800x3d, another reason to choose an air cooler over an aio is simply that the cooling performance of an aio may be overkill, in addition to being more expensive. if i were looking to buy a system with a 7800x3d right now it would be a no brainer for me to go with something like the phantom spirit you already have picked out.

on that same note, ptm7950 might also be overkill, in cooling performance anyway. i would still be tempted to go with it for the long term reliability, since it actually gets better with time as it goes through heating and cooling cycles, instead of degrading like regular thermal paste that dries out or gets pushed out from underneath the heatsink. its also more expensive though. i guess whichever one you are more comfortable with, it probably isnt that big of a deal.

just in case youre not aware, if you do go with ptm7950 dont be alarmed when you turn it on for the first time and the cpu throttles and cools a few times while the ptm7950 melts into the best shape. it needs that initial burn in period to maximize contact between the cpu and the cooler heatsink. if youre not comfortable with that then yeah any old thermal paste should be fine.

one reason i liked it and went with it over thermal paste is because it comes in the form of a sheet or pad, so it pretty much guarantees i can fully cover the cpu. not getting full or good enough coverage is actually a source of worry for me with thermal paste, since theres no way to tell how well you did without taking the heatsink off to look and undoing the whole thing. there are dedicated "thermal pads" that arent phase change materials, but last i looked they performed worse on average than regular thermal paste.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Memes:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Calamari Toast:

yeah it's solid. I'm glad you ditched the Corsair psu. That nvme storage will fill up fast though, are you sure you don't want to put a 4 tb in there? Maybe a 4 tb sata ssd would be more cost effective.

If you can get away with lighter cooling on the 7800x3d, then an air cooler will provide more peace of mind over an aio, as you won't have to worry about it leaking and short circuiting your GPU or anything else.

Also, you said your friend won't want to upgrade for a good while, then you might want to consider using ptm7950 instead of regular thermal paste on the CPU. That way you won't have to worry about needing to replace the paste every few years.

the bequiet psu is out of stock and wouldnt come on time. Would the SeaSonic Focus GX-850 ATX 3.0 850W [pcpartpicker.com] be a good alternative? Also, how come I should avoid Corsair's psu?

Both this and Corsair RM850e (2023) are fine.