RTX 3090 vs RTX 3090 Ti

[Shadow]

Which one should I pick?

I heard 3090 Ti power consumption is insane.

Is it possible to under-volt it?

Anyways, I usually need it for Ai Training and some occasional gaming.

Also price point even worth between the 2 cards?

How much should I get then new/used nowadays?

Currency: USD, I live in states.

[_I_]

undervolting is the same as overclocking

lower voltage = less stable
you could lower its core speeds to gain stability with the lower voltage


are you near a microcenter?
https://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx

they often have open box gpus
used for in store warranty upgrades
they will have about 1 year of use to qualify for it

[Shadow]

Originally posted by _I_:

undervolting is the same as overclocking

lower voltage = less stable
you could lower its core speeds to gain stability with the lower voltage


are you near a microcenter?
https://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx

they often have open box gpus
used for in store warranty upgrades
they will have about 1 year of use to qualify for it

Unfortunately, my State doesn’t have Microcenter.

[Illusion of Progress]

Not familiar with the needs of AI (nor your specific software), but...

If this is mostly for the extra VRAM, I'd tend to think the RTX 3090 would be the better option as they have the same amount of VRAM, unless they are very close in pricing.

Both would be awful options right now for gaming as far better alternatives exist now, but if it's for for AI, that is how I'd see it. RTX 3090, unless the Ti is about the same price.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

Not familiar with the needs of AI (nor your specific software), but...

If this is mostly for the extra VRAM, I'd tend to think the RTX 3090 would be the better option as they have the same amount of VRAM, unless they are very close in pricing.

Both would be awful options right now for gaming as far better alternatives exist now, but if it's for for AI, that is how I'd see it. RTX 3090, unless the Ti is about the same price.

What about RTX Titan, P6000?

All of them have the same VRAM of 24gb.

[Illusion of Progress]

I'm not familiar enough with the Titans or AI to say, sorry. I was just looking at it from the standpoint that if you're using it for AI and the VRAM capacity is what's more important, then the small difference in core performance between the RTX 3090 and Ti probably makes the non-Ti a better option, unless price is near identical.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

I'm not familiar enough with the Titans or AI to say, sorry. I was just looking at it from the standpoint that if you're using it for AI and the VRAM capacity is what's more important, then the small difference in core performance between the RTX 3090 and Ti probably makes the non-Ti a better option, unless price is near identical.

Oh ok, yeah price point is around $200 difference between 3090/3090 ti

[Viking2121]

Well I got the EVGA 3090ti FTW3, great card, but boy she is toasty, Afterburner will report nearly 500watts at stock which Im surprised them 3090ti's never suffered the same fate at some of them 4090s did. Im at 1v on the core and 2035mhz atm with a +1000mhz on the mem with MSI afterburner, it sits around 2020mhz and temps are mid to high 70s on a pretty hot day. Seen around 400ish watts with my under volt.

If I just did a dirty OC, I can get 2140mhz out of it, but at 1.075v, it wont stay near that for long gaming sessions if the room is kinda hot, it will often drop to almost base clock speeds due to power limit or or temp limit and bounces around a lot. But if you want to run stock clocks, you can get .950v or their abouts without to much hassle on the EVGA cards and its rock steady at around 1900 to 2000mhz. The ref models im not sure what a good undervolt is for them.

The 3090's do have issues with the vram being a little hot, not sure if undervolting or other sub models would be better that the ref models, but I would look into that before you make your purchase to make sure you wont run into issues later on.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Viking2121:

Well I got the EVGA 3090ti FTW3, great card, but boy she is toasty, Afterburner will report nearly 500watts at stock which Im surprised them 3090ti's never suffered the same fate at some of them 4090s did. Im at 1v on the core and 2035mhz atm with a +1000mhz on the mem with MSI afterburner, it sits around 2020mhz and temps are mid to high 70s on a pretty hot day. Seen around 400ish watts with my under volt.

If I just did a dirty OC, I can get 2140mhz out of it, but at 1.075v, it wont stay near that for long gaming sessions if the room is kinda hot, it will often drop to almost base clock speeds due to power limit or or temp limit and bounces around a lot. But if you want to run stock clocks, you can get .950v or their abouts without to much hassle on the EVGA cards and its rock steady at around 1900 to 2000mhz. The ref models im not sure what a good undervolt is for them.

The 3090's do have issues with the vram being a little hot, not sure if undervolting or other sub models would be better that the ref models, but I would look into that before you make your purchase to make sure you wont run into issues later on.

I’ll take that a consideration.

I was looking at Refurbished EVGA FTW3 GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24GB worth buying for $800 USD at Newegg? Or over priced?

eBay is a hit or miss, I recently purchased an RTX 3090 non Ti used listed and had to return because they sent an dying GPU, black pixels while gaming.

Such an hassle.

[Norman Schwarzkopf Jr.]

Originally posted by MrYoloDickSwagger:

I’ll take that a consideration.

I was looking at Refurbished EVGA FTW3 GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24GB worth buying for $800 USD at Newegg? Or over priced?

eBay is a hit or miss, I recently purchased an RTX 3090 non Ti used listed and had to return because they sent an dying GPU, black pixels while gaming.

Such an hassle.

How about to stop buying used and refurbished garbage, saving some money and doing yourself a favor?

[Viking2121]

Originally posted by Norman Schwarzkopf Jr.:

Originally posted by MrYoloDickSwagger:

I’ll take that a consideration.

I was looking at Refurbished EVGA FTW3 GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24GB worth buying for $800 USD at Newegg? Or over priced?

eBay is a hit or miss, I recently purchased an RTX 3090 non Ti used listed and had to return because they sent an dying GPU, black pixels while gaming.

Such an hassle.

How about to stop buying used and refurbished garbage, saving some money and doing yourself a favor?

Maybe if you read and understood what he needs it for, that would save us the favor from having to read you post you know nothing about, thats an idea!

[Tonepoet]

You'd have to either be an idiot to buy a 3090 ti at $800 refurbished right now, or some sort of collector. Even if you absolutely must be on the Nvidia platform, the 4070 ti is its equal[www.pcworld.com], which consequentlly means the 4070 ti super is its better, and you can buy a 4070 Ti super for $800[www.amazon.com].

Only thing you're missing out on is 8 gigabytes of V.R.A.M. and S.L.I., but S.L.I. sucks, two of them would cost almost as much as a 4090 and the 4070 ti super still has 16gb, which should be enough for the foreseeable future and between the lesser power draw, lesser size and most importantly, the inclusion of a warranty, the 4070 ti super is a better deal, esp. since you're getting BlackMyth: Wukong thrown in with it right now. I don't know if the game is any good or not, but it's added value regardless.

A 3090 ti must be substantially cheaper than 4070 ti to make much sense.

P.S., I just noticed that the M.S.I. Ventus 4070 ti Super[www.newegg.com] will be one of Newegg's best deals come midnight (they're on pacific time) so that's possibly a good opportunity to buy it if anybody wants it.

[smokerob79]

Originally posted by Tonepoet:

You'd have to either be an idiot to buy a 3090 ti at $800 refurbished right now, or some sort of collector. Even if you absolutely must be on the Nvidia platform, the 4070 ti is its equal[www.pcworld.com], which consequentlly means the 4070 ti super is its better, and you can buy a 4070 Ti super for $800[www.amazon.com].

Only thing you're missing out on is 8 gigabytes of V.R.A.M. and S.L.I., but S.L.I. sucks, two of them would cost almost as much as a 4090 and the 4070 ti super still has 16gb, which should be enough for the foreseeable future and between the lesser power draw, lesser size and most importantly, the inclusion of a warranty, the 4070 ti super is a better deal, esp. since you're getting BlackMyth: Wukong thrown in with it right now. I don't know if the game is any good or not, but it's added value regardless.

A 3090 ti must be substantially cheaper than 4070 ti to make much sense.

P.S., I just noticed that the M.S.I. Ventus 4070 ti Super[www.newegg.com] will be one of Newegg's best deals come midnight (they're on pacific time) so that's possibly a good opportunity to buy it if anybody wants it.

the 4070 is equal when it does not have 24gb of Vram???....are you new kid???....lots of AI now wants 48gb of Vram like most of the current quardos have......

[Shadow]

Tough decision, yeah idk what to pick.