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2. don't buy gigabyte. bad customer support and bad quality.
3. look at case reviews. you could get something better and maybe cheaper. airflow is important.
4. 4080 super is overpriced for what it offers. 16GB GDDR6X for 1000$ is bad value.
5. most importantly wait until new hardware releases. be patient and you might either get good discounts on existing hardware or choose new hardware because it offers better value.
I read on the net that even AMD admitted that for gaming even when the 9000 will be out, 7000 will be still the best for gaming. So there is no meaning to wait for them... Unless maybe because prices will go down for 7000s...
So, this is my last build...
Case
BE QUIET! CASE PER GAMING TOWER SHADOW BASE 800 FX
CPU
CPU a 8 Core AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D (4,2 GHz-5,0 GHz/CACHE da 104 MB/AM5)
MB
ASUS® ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
RAM
DDR5 Corsair VENGEANCE RGB 6000 MHz 32 GB (1 da 32 GB)
GPU
NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4080 SUPER da 16 GB - HDMI, DP, LHR
1o drive SSD M.2
SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 500 GB NVMe PCIe (fino a 6900 MB/R, 5000 MB/W)
2o drive SSD M.2
SAMSUNG 990 EVO M.2 2 TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 & 5.0 (fino a 5000 MB/R, 4200 MB/W)
PSU
CORSAIR 1000 W RMx SERIES™; MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD
CPU Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB
OS
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit
Feedbacks?
Looks good. But i would be critical of any Asus product. Especially the ROG. They are overpriced and wasted money. Asus had terrible RMA watch Gamera Nexus Youtube channel and get a idea of the pc landscape and Asus are a bad company.
The Tomahawk Wifi is a good board i bought one myself i have it here and a 7800x3d unopened and the h115i. And a 990 pro as well i bought one too do you really need a 980 pro as well? Its better to maybe drop one and get the 990 pro? It has 2000mb faster speeds.
Overall its very close to my build, Except i have a 4000d i got on offer for £59.99 and i went with MSI over Asus ROG. Im reusing the 2000 series GPU until the 5000 series. Overall its a good upgradeable and fast gaming platform. Offering today the fastest gaming cpu and in 2027 an upgrade path to a new CPU and a new GPU and a cool low nanometer GEN 5 14000 mb/sec SSD. The 990 SSD offers a low cost and fast platform to sit it out and wait as proper GEN5 SSDs are not even ready. They currently run extremly hot and have huge coolers.
About the double SSD, someone suggested to install the OS on a smaller SSD, and Im considering it... so the 500 one for OS and some programs (or apps?), the 2T for the rest.
Between Asus an Gigabyte, I'd normally consider Asus as the better brand, although there was a controversy with Asus's warranty service lately[www.pcmag.com]. Linus spoke with an exec. to make them issue a public apology and promise to do better if I recall correctly, but who knows if they will. They'll only learn if it hurts their bottom line so Gigabyte is looking rather tempting if you're forced between a rock and a hard place.
We've got benchmarks in on the 9900x from a non-anglophone tech-tuber: Summary is 10% weaker in gaming on average and up to 23% weaker depending on the game. 10% closes the gap a bit from where we were at with non 3d cache chips before, but the chip itself is only going to be useful for Nic's purposes if it lowers the price of the 7800x3D. I'm unsure of the likelihood of that 'cause the 7800x3D is mostly just used in dedicated gaming rigs anyway, but the 9900x is going to make multi-purpose rigs look a little more attractive.
The best deal I can find on a 4080 Super based system is the Cyberpowerpc Luxe[www.amazon.it], which is 1820€, but uses a 12900kf. That's not too big of a downside considering that Nic probably isn't going to ever replace the processor, so the value of forward facing compatibility is lost upon him, although the 12900kf isn't as good of a gaming processor as the 7800x3D anyway, so probably not.
Closest thing I can find to his build is the Boost Boxx[www.amazon.it] for 2.548,50.
If we know for sure you're going to use a 7800x3d, then the cost of the D.I.Y. build I suggested would come out to 1985, but I thought you had your heart set on that case. If not I probably would've chosen a corsair 4000d R.G.B.[www.amazon.it]. That brings costs down another 125 euro, to 1860 for a diy build.
Your build is 2.654€, V.A.T. exclusive on the uk website. I'm not sure if it's the same on the Italy website. Italy charges 22% vat., so I anticipate the final value is 3218 vat inclusive. Is that correct?
If you must buy from P.C. specialists, then I'd talk you down on a few components:
The Boost Boxx uses the Asus Tuf Gaming B650 Plus wifi as the motherboard, which is an option offered by P.C. Specialists, an P.C. specialists themselves pair it with a 7800x3D[www.pcspecialist.co.uk] themselves. It seems to be a perfectly adequate motherboard for the processor you've chosen as such, and it'll save you heaps over going with some over the top X chipset motherboard that's probably meant for overclockers. The only overclocking you might apply to a 7800x3D is P.B.O. anyway 'cause it's locked against manual overclocking because the v-cache is thermally sensitive.
P.C. Specialists has a special deal on the Corsair 3000D airflow, which is more or less as fine of a case as most others at far less cost to yourself. I'd pick that as the case and add additional case fans, since you do not want to be adding fans yourself after the fact. Each generic black case fan seems to cost 4€ which is fair. You want to buy as many as they'll allow, as long as you have empty mounts. In this case you'd buy 3 for 12€.
Alternatively, buy a Corsair 4000D R.G.B. (for the fans) and add two black case fans (I don't think it has enough mounting points for more). I'd mostly consider other cases for aesthetic appeal, and even then I think the 4000D looks decent. I think there are only two free mounts on this case, add 2 for 8€
More fans does not necessarily mean more noise. Sometimes it's the opposite, because they can operate at lower R.P.M. to achieve the same temps.
Also, I'd go with the 1tb Corsair Force MP600 as the S.S.D. It's a bit of a hit compared to the Samsung drive, but S.S.Ds. aren't going to impact gaming perf. much. It's mostly going to effect load times and even then I think the MP600 is up to the task.
Overspeccing a power supply is normal, but part of the reason for that is for people who perform upgrades. If you're not building the P.C. yourself, are you going to upgrade it? I mean, I guess slotting out a graphics card is marginally easier, but not really by a whole lot. I'd suppose you'd sell the whole system secondhand and buy a new one. If so, go with the 850 watt power supply. You should only need a 750 watt P.S.U. according to the Asus power supply table[dlcdnets.asus.com], so 850 is already overspecced..
More importantly, you don't want to overspec. too much either, because P.S.Us. generally operate most efficiently at 50% load[www.sunpower-uk.com]. We're looking at a nominal load for a 4080 super and a 7800x3D maybe being 400 watts or maybe even less. A 1000 watt power supply is most efficient when run at 500 watts. Don't transplant the heart of a horse into a human body[www.facebook.com] because you think it'll improve circulation. Things don't quite work like that.
And yes, you want the MX4 paste.
With an 850 watt power supply, the Asus Tuf Gaming B650 Plus Wifi motherboard, a Corsair Force MP600 and a Corsair 3000d, 3 case fans and Artic MX4 we bring down the cost to 2,254€ vat exclusive, which adds up to 2750€ V.A.T. inclusive if I did everything right. I'm not sure if the price is actually going to be reflective of that found on the italian website.
The Boost Box is cheaper though, and does use a Be Quiet case if you're insistent on that, although I'm not sure what sort of warranty they offer, and they're possibly using cheaper auxiliary parts. You would get a 2TB drive included in the price though.
One last thing though. I wouldn't buy Windows from them. 110€ of the system price is for Windows 11 home.
You might be able to find a cheaper legit. source for a Windows license, or install Linux (I'd say to get Kubuntu[kubuntu.org]) by making your own free installation media.
Even if you can't find a cheaper source for Windows and are unwilling to use any variety of linux, by the time you're spending 110€ on O.E.M. Windows 11, I think you might as well purchase the full retail key which has unlimited installs so you can bring it forward to your subsequent systems. You're spending perhaps 55€ per install if you install Windows on even just one subsequent system. Possibly a bit less since it will cost more (I'd expect 140€, so perhaps more like 70€ per install if you install twice), but it's worth considering.
There is no reason to do that and, at least as of now, DirectStorage only supports access from the OS disk. So beyond what Rod noted as keeping things simpler, there is also the benefit of having enough storage on your main SSD for new games that will being coming out that implement DirectStorage.
I'd get whichever capacity you feel you'd want from those Crucial T705 SSDs
The rest of the build looks good other than I'd not waste the money on the Crosshair X670E Hero; The Prime X670-P has enough IO for everything you're specing out.
AMD performs better with higher ram 5600 is low for AMD.and im not a huge fan of that case
theres no mesh which hinders air flow and those side fans are worthless if you point them out they are sucking the cool air right back out from your front fans if you point them in they are deflecting the flow thru of the front fans completely done for show its an idiotic design IMO.
There are reasons to buy multiple drives.
R.A.I.D.
Tiering (optane, primocache, StoreMi)
Cheaper archival drive for storing small quick to load or large and infrequently accessed files.
However, first, you probably don't want to Raid multiple S.S.Ds. together because usually the more storage you have on a single S.S.D., the more nand chips you have on it, leading to faster access speeds anyway.
Second, if you don't know why you want multiple drives, you probably don't need multiple drives. If you get two drives, make one of them a mechanical hard drive for extra storage on the dollar. You'll spend less time deleting and redownloading your old steam games, and you can reinstall games less often, denying Unity their re-installation fees if they ever try to reinstate that business model again.
Getting two 4tb ironwolf drives and running them in striped mode to help overcome the inherent speed disadvantage with mechanical drives makes more sense to me than getting two Samsung evo S.S.Ds. Striping drives together is risky though, since if one fails, you lose all of the data on both, and two drives are twice as likely to fail as one.
(Mechanical drives would be in addition to the S.D.D. boot drive of course)
If you look closelier[www.pcspecialist.it] you'll actually see that the Be Quiet Shadow Base 800 F.X. actually does have front panel mesh for airflow.
It's just such fine metallic speaker grille style mesh that you can't tell just from the size of the low resolution thumbnails and it looks like tempered glass, when it's not. It's a fine case, but I see no real point in spending that much money on one unless it's for aesthetic preference.
maybe under the glass theres a mesh screen but the one im looking at is clearly has a tempered glass front and top
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-5000X-Tempered-Glass-Mid-Tower/dp/B08M4B2KQ4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=NQ16AYIM5LW7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NAWe10GdOAoLNQRClYkjBotqqUxLFvhMMvdpn-c0MkWRE2Pd8Yzu1mw3k_EqHTb2oIBKXkN1kBzIV5NnAZ4SGcheevd9BYzuhkBuJKwbtPZLIoNkyOHx8P_Q0VTBb9s_UJSsj97QY8rOUYW4vjJfi4HruKhqn5a9DVbmXpKrP1yQfot9-G9FBMdjn5rYveShI-bBKc8TUOIZz3DahYP1HmIW156RJKQ4cttFGvymMYQ.y1H8u1l-87R4MeG5gZ33m1WDA4cRZulglTRfYyvMLj0&dib_tag=se&keywords=GAMING%2BCASE%2BMID%2BTOWER%2BCORSAIR%2BiCUE%2B5000X%2BRGB&qid=1721912981&sprefix=gaming%2Bcase%2Bmid%2Btower%2Bcorsair%2Bicue%2B5000x%2Brgb%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-1&th=1
My fault. I posted a new build "mid way", but it seems Guydodge was commenting about the one in the starting post... Im updating it with the last build Im considering...
Thanks anyway for your suggestions.
I know that probably the MB is excessive, I will check about alternatives.
One question: there is a meaning to buy right now a MB with USB4 support?
There are peripherals (mouse keyboards... monitors?) USB4?
Another one: Actual MBs (!) are compatible with the next 9000 CPUs?
There are some features of USB4 that are not available on USB3 such as PCIe tunneling which allows for a USB device to essentially be connected like a PCIe card to the system. This allows for things like external GPUs etc. USB4 is also significantlly faster which is useful for things like external storage (e.g. external SSDs) or things like audio interfaces, capture cards, etc. If that is useful to you is up to you. Mice & keyboards don't really have any use for USB4 over USB3,x
Most of the current AM5 motherboards should support the Ryzen 9000 series CPUs once they have a firmware update. Any of the X670 chipset based motherboards will certainly support them.
I didn't say there aren't reasons to buy multiple disks. I was referring to the specific thing I quoted from the OP who stated they were told they should get a smaller "primary" disk and then get a second disk for their other stuff like games. That specifically is unnecessary and there is at least the issue with Direct Storage (as it stands at this moment) where doing so could be problematic for the OP.