Insomnia 2024년 7월 19일 오후 1시 38분
Wifi doesnt seem to run at neccasry speeds for games?
I recently just finished building my first PC and everything runs smoothly, yet I still get massive frame drops and massive input delay while playing. I do not believe it to be any other parts in PC to be the issue, as when i look at task manager my WiFi speed while playing most
games only sits at kbps.
I am using the WiFi antennas that came with my board which is an msi z790 tomahawk max wifi. I have seemingly installed all necessary drivers with it and have doubled checked for anyway windows updates that I may be missing. If it helps I am also using a i7 14th gen with 32 gb of ram, a rtx 4060, 2tb of ssd, and finally I am running windows 11 pro.
Besides all that I have as well done a full wifi reset on my pc, and tested the wifi strength which can actually reach hundreds of mbs for send/receive. Apologies if this is not enough information to help solve my problem but this all I can currently give about it.
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What router are you using? You didn't tell us that when mentioning all of the other stuff.

I mean, imagine buying a new motherboard with wifi 7 hardware built into it and still using the same wifi router your I.S.P. gave you back in 1997[standards.ieee.org] and thinking your speeds will get faster.

What? That's how slow Insomnia's connection sounds right now. >_>


I was able to figure out my router is a BGW-320 505. No idea if that actually helps though.

It just very well might. I mean, I encapsulate that model number in quotations to get an exact hit on Google and this reddit thread complaining about it is the very first result on Google. That is not the only reddit thread with complaints about that router either.

Simply put, you are not the only person experiencing horrifically slow speeds with this device, and it is absolutely shameful how slow it is considering that it is newer than I would have thought with the kinds of speeds you are getting out of it. It is supposed to be a wifi 6 device[www.att.com]. You are not even getting full wifi 0 speeds out of it, since that is at least in the megabit rather than the kilobit range. :BlitzWeHaveAProblem:

If this model was supplied by your I.S.P. recently, call them up, complain about slow speeds and tell them you suspect the router. Otherwise, try with a cheaper $20 router[www.amazon.com] first to confirm that it is a problem with the device before investing money into something better, then suck it up and buy something better if so.

Sheesh though, I did not even really think it might be the router since just about every router should have more bandwidth than that. I was just kind of half joking. What a hunk o' junk. :steamthumbsdown:
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Bad 💀 Motha 2024년 7월 19일 오후 2시 36분 
To ensure it's not a WiFi lag (high ping) issue can you test with a Wired Ethernet connection?

Make sure YOU installed the correct WiFi Device Driver. Also the defaults for the WiFi often need to be changed/tweaked for best results. For starters set WinOS Network to Private not Public. Then go to Device Manager and click Properties for the WiFi device and edit the settings so they are more suitable for best performance.

Ensure the WiFI antennas are screwed in all the way and that the antenna is somewhat spread like a V helps. Pointed upward away from the PC Case.
N3tRunn3r 2024년 7월 19일 오후 3시 03분 
Change your connection to use "5 GHz" only, set it up on your router "and" machine/PC/Laptop . . .

2.4 GHz tends to lag and provide just 50% and less of "bandwidth" after a specific time.
2.4 GHz also switches channels far more often and conflicts with other near-by WiFi stuff, which then tends to abort / cut your WiFi connection.

The only downside of 5 GHz is, it doesn't provide higher disctances as a 2.4 GHz would, also 5 GHz is absorbed faster by concrete walls around . . .

Also try to use WiFi 6, if your hardwares are capable of it.
Killer WiFi 6E is even better but not that widely spread yet.

Use WPA3-(Personal), as WPA2 and below can be hacked within 10 minutes or less . . .
Additionally setup your WiFi connection with a "hidden SSID" . . .

Also check this:

> check your dongle's latest drivers
> check router firmware if it is on latest
> check and re-check ALL and advanced router settings
> if in doubt, do a factory reset of your router
> are all cables to and from your router correctly wired and also stable
> do you gain enough bandwidth from your ISP

is it an old / ancient router? does it meet todays standards?

you can take a look at some high-end routers for about 150 bucks already..

Just look at a router something like:

Gigabit WLAN ~6.000 Mbit/s (2,4 GHz – 1.200 Mbit/s, 5 GHz – 4.800 Mbit/s)

WiFi 6.x, IEEE 802.11 ax/ac/n/g

Minimum 2000 MBit/s Ethernet

ADSL, VDSL, Vectoring, Supervectoring, Fiber-ready

So WiFi 7 (802.11 be) will be big in coming too.. yet too expensive for private useage.

Good Luck !

:cwat:
Iron Knights 2024년 7월 19일 오후 5시 16분 
And it never will, no serious gamer should use Wi-Fi.
emoticorpse 2024년 7월 19일 오후 5시 44분 
What is the ping results in your speedtests?
_I_ 2024년 7월 19일 오후 6시 57분 
or pingbomb the router to see if wifi is the issue
winkey + r -> cmd
tracert google.com
(first hop is the router ip)

ping -t 192.168.x.1 (router ip)

play games
then hit ctrl + c to stop ping, will show min/max/avg and loss
Bad 💀 Motha 2024년 7월 19일 오후 9시 41분 
What I also do is ensure the Router WiFi has a separate SSID login for both 2.4Ghz vs 5Ghz.

Many do not do this and just use one SSID and the WIFi adapter will auto switch between 2.4 vs 5.0

This is what you do not want, you want to force one or the other. You do this very easily by making each have a login.
Tonepoet 2024년 7월 19일 오후 10시 19분 
What router are you using? You didn't tell us that when mentioning all of the other stuff.

I mean, imagine buying a new motherboard with wifi 7 hardware built into it and still using the same wifi router your I.S.P. gave you back in 1997[standards.ieee.org] and thinking your speeds will get faster.

What? That's how slow Insomnia's connection sounds right now. >_>
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Freqsync 2024년 7월 19일 오후 10시 28분 
*raises hand* Ooo Oooo me me...
Does this have to do with tcp and that your not having packets all over the place and its being sent from only one source and that if the protocol tunneling hasn't been activated by intel chipset or whomever creATED THAT SMALL tb DRIVE OF A WIFI gosh this caplocks has a mind of its own......*puts hands down* apologies can I go use the add optional features or does it have a chance of a check box of turn windows features on and a quick stab at regedit.... or can it just be that killer network ap is gone and no way to get it... or...*just shuts up now*
Masque 2024년 7월 19일 오후 10시 51분 
N3tRunn3r님이 먼저 게시:
Change your connection to use "5 GHz" only, set it up on your router "and" machine/PC/Laptop . . .

2.4 GHz tends to lag and provide just 50% and less of "bandwidth" after a specific time.
2.4 GHz also switches channels far more often and conflicts with other near-by WiFi stuff, which then tends to abort / cut your WiFi connection.

The only downside of 5 GHz is, it doesn't provide higher disctances as a 2.4 GHz would, also 5 GHz is absorbed faster by concrete walls around . . .

Also try to use WiFi 6, if your hardwares are capable of it.
Killer WiFi 6E is even better but not that widely spread yet.

Use WPA3-(Personal), as WPA2 and below can be hacked within 10 minutes or less . . .
Additionally setup your WiFi connection with a "hidden SSID" . . .

Also check this:

> check your dongle's latest drivers
> check router firmware if it is on latest
> check and re-check ALL and advanced router settings
> if in doubt, do a factory reset of your router
> are all cables to and from your router correctly wired and also stable
> do you gain enough bandwidth from your ISP

is it an old / ancient router? does it meet todays standards?

you can take a look at some high-end routers for about 150 bucks already..

Just look at a router something like:

Gigabit WLAN ~6.000 Mbit/s (2,4 GHz – 1.200 Mbit/s, 5 GHz – 4.800 Mbit/s)

WiFi 6.x, IEEE 802.11 ax/ac/n/g

Minimum 2000 MBit/s Ethernet

ADSL, VDSL, Vectoring, Supervectoring, Fiber-ready

So WiFi 7 (802.11 be) will be big in coming too.. yet too expensive for private useage.

Good Luck !

:cwat:
This comment right here is why I quit WiFi, 5 years ago, and have been using the same powerline adapter for five years straight, with absolutely zero problems whatsoever.

You'll be told by the experts here that powerline adapters are "notoriously" unreliable.

They're cheap and you can return them to Amazon if those experts are right.

You'll end up keeping it, and not returning it, and will never use WiFi for a desktop home PC, ever again. And you'll wonder why the experts here are so invested in telling people that powerline adapters are unreliable, every time they're mentioned.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/
Masque 2024년 7월 19일 오후 10시 56분 
Also you'll be told powerline adapters won't work on two different breakers.

This is untrue. My computer (and one adapter) is on a completely different breaker than the outlet the router (and the other adapter) is on. They're at opposite ends of the house.

They have to be on the same main house circuit -- in other words, the same breaker box.
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_I_ 2024년 7월 19일 오후 10시 59분 
powerline adapters do work across breakers, but not nearly as good or as fast as if on the same breaker
and work even less effectively on other side of the 110v rails
Masque 2024년 7월 19일 오후 11시 00분 
Maybe my internet is so slow I can't tell. I pay for 25Mbps -- 3.2 MB/s.

It hasn't dropped below what I pay for, in five years, not once.

Using one on the same breaker would be fairly pointless in most houses or apartments, since they're usually per-room, or even per-wall in each room.
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Bad 💀 Motha 2024년 7월 19일 오후 11시 09분 
Masque님이 먼저 게시:
N3tRunn3r님이 먼저 게시:
Change your connection to use "5 GHz" only, set it up on your router "and" machine/PC/Laptop . . .

2.4 GHz tends to lag and provide just 50% and less of "bandwidth" after a specific time.
2.4 GHz also switches channels far more often and conflicts with other near-by WiFi stuff, which then tends to abort / cut your WiFi connection.

The only downside of 5 GHz is, it doesn't provide higher disctances as a 2.4 GHz would, also 5 GHz is absorbed faster by concrete walls around . . .

Also try to use WiFi 6, if your hardwares are capable of it.
Killer WiFi 6E is even better but not that widely spread yet.

Use WPA3-(Personal), as WPA2 and below can be hacked within 10 minutes or less . . .
Additionally setup your WiFi connection with a "hidden SSID" . . .

Also check this:

> check your dongle's latest drivers
> check router firmware if it is on latest
> check and re-check ALL and advanced router settings
> if in doubt, do a factory reset of your router
> are all cables to and from your router correctly wired and also stable
> do you gain enough bandwidth from your ISP

is it an old / ancient router? does it meet todays standards?

you can take a look at some high-end routers for about 150 bucks already..

Just look at a router something like:



So WiFi 7 (802.11 be) will be big in coming too.. yet too expensive for private useage.

Good Luck !

:cwat:
This comment right here is why I quit WiFi, 5 years ago, and have been using the same powerline adapter for five years straight, with absolutely zero problems whatsoever.

You'll be told by the experts here that powerline adapters are "notoriously" unreliable.

They're cheap and you can return them to Amazon if those experts are right.

You'll end up keeping it, and not returning it, and will never use WiFi for a desktop home PC, ever again. And you'll wonder why the experts here are so invested in telling people that powerline adapters are unreliable, every time they're mentioned.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/
PowerLine adapters can work however it often depends how the home is wired internally for this to end on a good note. It's definitely a worthy option for sure.
Masque 2024년 7월 19일 오후 11시 13분 
Well, my house was built by a guy in the late 70s from plans in Popular Mechanics. I don't know if he used an electrician or he did it himself, but it does the trick.

If what _I_ said above is true, and it probably is, it may indeed cause a decrease in speed if you're paying for much faster internet that what I pay for.

I'd advise the OP to at least give it a try, since Amazon allows returns for any reason.

It can't hurt.

In all my years I've never once had good luck with desktop WiFi. Laptops, tablets, phones, XBOX 360 -- all worked perfect. I found out about powerline adapters after trying my 5th WiFi adapter for my current PC -- and going through all that checking of things and adjusting of things over and over.

Haven't checked or adjusted anything in five years.
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_I_ 2024년 7월 19일 오후 11시 18분 
it may not slow internet traffic much, but lan traffic is definitely slowed
copying large files across pc to pc will be a huge difference between gigabit/2.5/10g lan and powerline
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