New GPU, is $100 extra really worth it for only 1080p gaming ?.

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Grimaldus Aug 11, 2024 @ 6:50am

As always i've spent hours and hours checking sites and reviews on YT on
countless GPUs, and also looked into the need for more than 8gb VRAM,
which made me set my eyes on only 12Gb+ GPU's , even if i'm only playing 1080p.

Sadly i'm not made of money either so.. no 4090TI like some crazy person suggested.

I gave a friend my limitations and requirements, first i was looking at $450-500 max
for a "future proof" GPU what would last a few years, he suggested this .

ASUS Radeon RX 7600 XT Dual OC 16GB - at $450 .

But now after additional hours with more research, i finally stumbled across.

MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti VENTUS 2X - at $560 .

It's just shy over +$ 100 , but it has the 16Gb VRAM, and i actually prefer Nvidia
since i haven't used AMD for like 3 decades.

I also briefly looked at the RTX 3060TI 12Gb , it was regarded as one of the best
"budget GPU's" for 1080p gaming, but it wasn't performing as i expected in tests,
and i'd rather spend a little more money for more "future proof" .

I was looking at this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQX79HVNVcc

And testing is done in 1440p, which would make both cards perform much much
better in 1080p with max settings, but would the 4060TI still outperform the 7600XT?.

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Tonepoet Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:06am

Don't overspend. Buy the cheapest available version of the model you're looking at with the same amount of V.R.A.M. I guarantee you won't notice an 80 hz stock overclock that isn't even going to represent 5% of your G.P.U's overall clock speed, and that price won't be worth it even if you do.

Don't spend more than $260 for an RX 7600XT[www.amazon.com] or $460 for the 16 gig. version of the 4060 ti[www.amazon.com] (and even then the 16 gig. version of the 4060 ti is usually considered overpriced for what it is).

If you're spending $100 more, you might be looking at the next model up, or in this case even higher. You can get a 7800 XT for $420[www.amazon.com] or an RTX 4070 that'll cost $540[www.newegg.com], and those will likely be a better picks than either of the two cards you're looking at right now.

As for whether an extra hundred dollars is actually worth the upgrade, what performance threshold are you looking at in which games?

Last edited by Tonepoet; Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:10am

Zef Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:12am

The competitor of the 4060Ti, is not the 7600XT but a 7700XT, which falls perfectly within your pricing bracket. 4060 is also bad value for what it is.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4060-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-7700-XT/4149vsm2184147

If you spend 50$ more you get an even more bigger perfomance boost going with a 7800XT.

If you want future proof, i'd go for the 7800XT.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4060-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-7800-XT/4149vsm2184033

_I_ Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:22am

if its high refresh rate display, yes, stronger gpu is well worth it

Grimaldus Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:24am

Originally posted by _I_:
if its high refresh rate display, yes, stronger gpu is well worth it

I bought a 144Hz AOC monitor when my previous decided to terminate itself.

Originally posted by Zef:

If you want future proof, i'd go for the 7800XT.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4060-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-7800-XT/4149vsm2184033

Thanks, looking into the 7800XT right now, seems good, and withing my pricerange.

PopinFRESH Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:25am

What is the rest of your current system?

If you don't have it already install CPU-z[www.cpuid.com] and run the validator and then post the validation link.

The biggest differences you'll see between the 3060Ti and the 4060Ti is the 4060Ti's improved tensor cores & RT cores along with the support for DLSS 3.0 frame generation. Depending on the rest of your system and the games you're playing, at 1080p you may be CPU bound and DLSS frame generation can offer quite a bit of frame rate uplift in those scenarios.

I'd also concur with Tonepoet's rational regarding the "Ventus 2x" or any of the other aftermarket 4060Ti 16GB models. It isn't going to be worth paying extra for one that is factory overclocked for a higher base frequency and a minuscule increase to boost frequency.

If you're going to look at that price point for a 4060Ti and you're intention is to continue running at 1080p then you'd be better off with a base model 4070 Super which are about $560 - $580. You'd benefit more from the additional compute resources in the 4070 Super than you will from the extra 4GB of VRAM when running at 1080p. But given your original budget I'd personally just look at a base model 4060Ti 16GB for around that $460 - $470 price point.

Tonepoet Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:42am

Well that's the question though isn't it? He doesn't know if he wants to future proof or not. There's a limit on how much future proofing is worth, since the purpose of it is to prevent you from making an unnecessary purchase later down the line. Doesn't make sense to do that if you get an adequate level of performance from a $250 card now and then upgrade to a $250 card a few years down the line that's better than what you can buy for $500 now.

Oh right, before I forget, on a $560 budget you can also afford a 7900 G.R.E. which is probably the best card you can get at this price range. I'd probably get this $530 Acer variant[www.newegg.com] because it's a dual fan card that might be easier to fit in smaller cases. The cheapest one is $520 from XFX[www.amazon.com].

Last edited by Tonepoet; Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:46am

Rumpelcrutchskin Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:49am

At this price range would look for RX 7800 XT, far better then both 7600 XT and 4060 Ti.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=559&sort=price&page=1

Last edited by Rumpelcrutchskin; Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:51am

Grimaldus Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:19am

Well.. about 5 years ago i bought my GTX1060 6Gb for $500, back when prices
were almost 400% inflated on GPU's .. but i didn't have a choice since my current
GPU started making noices.
So when i say "future proof", i mean a good investment for atleast 5-6 years.

My Hardware is .
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.60 GHz
32,0 GB Viper DDR4.
B450 Tomahawk MAX II .
750TW Corsair PSU Plat Edi.

I am planning on upgrading the cpu to a Ryzen 5 7600, but that's in another few months.

Last edited by Grimaldus; Aug 13, 2024 @ 4:49am

Rumpelcrutchskin Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:02am

Originally posted by Grimaldus:
Well.. about 5 years ago i bought my GTX1060 6Gb for $500, back when prices
were almost 400% inflated on GPU's .. but i didn't have a choice since my current
GPU started making noices.
So when i say "future proof", i mean a good investment for atleast 5-6 years.

My Hardware is .
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.60 GHz
32,0 GB Corsair DDR5 RAM.
B450 Tomahawk MAX II .
750TW Corsair PSU Plat Edi.

750W PSU can easily run RX 7800 XT or RX 7900 GRE.

PopinFRESH Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:38am

Originally posted by Grimaldus:
Well.. about 5 years ago i bought my GTX1060 6Gb for $500, back when prices
were almost 400% inflated on GPU's .. but i didn't have a choice since my current
GPU started making noices.
So when i say "future proof", i mean a good investment for atleast 5-6 years.

My Hardware is .
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.60 GHz
32,0 GB Corsair DDR5 RAM.
B450 Tomahawk MAX II .
750TW Corsair PSU Plat Edi.

I am planning on upgrading the cpu to a Ryzen 5 7600, but that's in another few months.

You'd need to replace the motherboard to go to a Ryzen 5 7600. The A620 chipset is hot garbage and the B650 boards range between $150 - $200. The Ryzen 5 7600 is just shy of $200.

I'd personally think you'd be better off looking at upgrading your AM4 platform to a Ryzen 5800X3D or even a 5600X3D for a gaming system. And if there is any extra budget you were looking at for moving to an AM5 platform figure that out and put it toward your GPU purchase.

Like I mentioned, if you are close to that $580 budget range you can find an RTX 4070 Super at that price point and for 1080p@144Hz display that would be a good option with good RT performance for new games; then whenever you were considering upgrading to AM5 just pickup a 5800X3D and swap out your CPU.

5800X3D with a 4070 Super & 32GB a memory is a solid system that should play most games a good quality settings for the next 5 years.

Last edited by PopinFRESH; Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:38am

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Rumpelcrutchskin Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:39am

Originally posted by PopinFRESH:
Originally posted by Grimaldus:
Well.. about 5 years ago i bought my GTX1060 6Gb for $500, back when prices
were almost 400% inflated on GPU's .. but i didn't have a choice since my current
GPU started making noices.
So when i say "future proof", i mean a good investment for atleast 5-6 years.

My Hardware is .
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.60 GHz
32,0 GB Corsair DDR5 RAM.
B450 Tomahawk MAX II .
750TW Corsair PSU Plat Edi.

I am planning on upgrading the cpu to a Ryzen 5 7600, but that's in another few months.

You'd need to replace the motherboard to go to a Ryzen 5 7600. The A620 chipset is hot garbage and the B650 boards range between $150 - $200. The Ryzen 5 7600 is just shy of $200.

I'd personally think you'd be better off looking at upgrading your AM4 platform to a Ryzen 5800X3D or even a 5600X3D for a gaming system. And if there is any extra budget you were looking at for moving to an AM5 platform figure that out and put it toward your GPU purchase.

Like I mentioned, if you are close to that $580 budge range you can find an RTX 4070 Super at that price point and for 1080p@144Hz display that would be a good option with good RT performance for new games; then whenever you were considering upgrading to AM5 just pickup a 5800X3D and swap out your CPU.

5800X3D with a 4070 Super & 32GB a memory is a solid system that should play most games a good quality settings for the next 5 years.

I think you have the wrong thread.

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PopinFRESH Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:40am

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:
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I think you have the wrong thread.

What do you mean?

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Rumpelcrutchskin Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:42am

Originally posted by PopinFRESH:
Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:
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I think you have the wrong thread.

What do you mean?

OP just posted that he has decent quality B450 motherboard and never mentioned anything about upgrading CPU.

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PopinFRESH Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:47am

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:
Originally posted by PopinFRESH:

What do you mean?

OP just posted that he has decent quality B450 motherboard and never mentioned anything about upgrading CPU.

Literally in the post that I quoted in that reply

"I am planning on upgrading the cpu to a Ryzen 5 7600, but that's in another few months."

The point I was making is that they have a decent B450 system already and if they are already planning on spending another $400-450 in another few months to upgrade to an AM5 platform; they should figure that budget out now, and plan on picking up a 5800X3D for about $300 when they can find one on-sale and put the extra money they were planning on budgeting toward their GPU purchase now.

Last edited by PopinFRESH; Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:53am

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