GigaCars 10/ago./2024 às 12:00
A game i like to play doesn't boot anymore on a new computer
I resorted to this because i had to..

After upgrading with a 8th gen Intel Core i7-3770K with 8 cores and a EVGA GF GTX 1660 Ti XC Ultra Gaming GPU, i cannot boot a game i want to play anymore, i have no idea why it isn't using the Integrated Graphics as a alternative within the 3770K, the game is compatible with DX12 and older versions too btw

EDIT: changed a few things

tags for future people: windows 7 1660 1660ti ti nvidia geforce gtx drivers driver
Última edição por GigaCars; 12/ago./2024 às 14:22
Escrito originalmente por PopinFRESH:
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64 bit, has the x84 program files, also BR is 32bit, not 64
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I think you mean x86. That is for 32-bit application (which I think is what you're intending to say). I don't recall if the directory was present on both versions of Windows 7 or not so would be worth just double checking.

  1. Choose Start > Control Panel.
  2. If the Control Panel is in a category view, then click System And Maintenance. On the next screen, click System. If the Control Panel is in Classic View, then double-click System.
  3. Look for 32-bit Operating System or 64-bit Operating System next to System Type.

This will tell you for sure if your installation is 32bit or 64bit.

While the BR executable may be 32bit; they list both a 64bit CPU and 64bit OS as requisite.

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MINIMUM:
OS *: Windows 7 SP1 - Windows 10 (x64)
Processor: 2.4 GHz Dual-Core 64-bit CPU
Memory: 4 GB RAM
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x86 = 32bit
x86_64 = 64bit
x64 = 64bit

Lastly, given your last reply I'd think your issue is more likely the GPU drive issue you've noted. If they are trying to use DX12 on Windows 7 it's likely going to be a bad time.

Which driver package did you try to install?

"Version: 441.08 WHQL" I think was where Win7 support ended

Nvidia Game Ready Driver 441.08 WHQL[www.nvidia.com]

You may want to also try to reinstall directx 11 and then reinstall the DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer[www.microsoft.com] which should redo the DX side-by-side.

If you aren't on SP1 use the standalone installer Platform Update for Windows 7[www.microsoft.com] which includes the dx11.1 package built-in.

The system not using the correct driver and the missing directX is very likely what your issue is. So at least you are on the right track to figure it out.
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Bad 💀 Motha 11/ago./2024 às 2:21 
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While true and those things come easy for us tech support folks; for the end-user it would be actually quicker and more sure way to restore a clean OS; to just do a clean install and move forward.
its like you've never heard of google before.
https://www.easeus.com/resource/how-to-repair-windows-10.html
you could just give them that or any others you like.
such a waste of time on a fresh install and what if they can't do that?

I know how to provide help, thank you.
It's getting them to actually do things correctly, that's another story sometimes.
[-iD-] 11/ago./2024 às 2:23 
Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:
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its like you've never heard of google before.
https://www.easeus.com/resource/how-to-repair-windows-10.html
you could just give them that or any others you like.
such a waste of time on a fresh install and what if they can't do that?

I know how to provide help, thank you.
It's getting them to actually do things correctly, that's another story sometimes.
telling everyone to do what you do is not help.

and they can do what they want. give them everything they can do.
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PopinFRESH 11/ago./2024 às 3:21 
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Does it launch and then immediately crash to desktop?
if the cpu don't have a instruction set beamng needs. it will do nothing

Cool story hanz; and what about Brick Rigs? Got anything intelligent to say for that one not starting? You are assuming that it requires an instruction set that the CPU doesn't have. Also, if it is missing a required instruction set it will usually be handled with an exception and will have an error; hence the question to the OP.

For the OP, another potential issue you might be facing is that you've installed the 32bit version of Windows 7. We don't know because you skipped including that relevant section of the sysinfo. Download CPU-z[www.cpuid.com] and run the Validator; then post the validation link here so people have a more complete picture of your systems hardware and software configurations.

Both of the games you've mentioned having issues with list 64bit OS as a requirement.
[-iD-] 11/ago./2024 às 3:46 
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Also, if it is missing a required instruction set it will usually be handled with an exception and will have an error; hence the question to the OP.
tell that to cyberpunk, they they a code at least.
Última edição por [-iD-]; 11/ago./2024 às 3:46
PopinFRESH 11/ago./2024 às 3:58 
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Also, if it is missing a required instruction set it will usually be handled with an exception and will have an error; hence the question to the OP.
tell that to cyberpunk, they they a code at least.

wtf does "they they a code at least" mean?
Tomi Montana 11/ago./2024 às 4:03 
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If you are on Win7; good luck, as even some modern DX11 games refuse to work properly on it.

No one should be on Win7/8.1 anymore, that's just ridiculous. You have an 8th Gen CPU now, do a clean install of Win10 64bit 22H2 from USB onto an SSD.
He doesn't have an 8th gen CPU.
He has just shared his output from the steam hardware detection thing, he has a 3770K.
Bad 💀 Motha 11/ago./2024 às 4:10 
LOL yes sorry I noticed this later after re-reading again... 8th gen 3770K

Overall the problem really is being on Win7/8 still.

3770K + GTX 1660 Ti is strong enough for a long list of games.

It's possible that the Win7 is messed up and won't do anymore updates properly. I had a few customer PCs like that during the whole COVID period. They were wanting to play gamea like Horizon Zero Dawn on Win7. Normally this would have been fine except the game requires that NET Framework be on 4.8 and Win7 wouldn't update to it without errors.
Última edição por Bad 💀 Motha; 11/ago./2024 às 4:12
[-iD-] 11/ago./2024 às 4:12 
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tell that to cyberpunk, they they a code at least.

wtf does "they they a code at least" mean?
opps threw a code, not a missing avx2.0 code but an error non-the-less.
confused everyone
[-iD-] 11/ago./2024 às 4:12 
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LOL yes sorry I noticed this later after re-reading again... 8th gen 3770K

Overall the problem really is being on Win7/8 still.

3770K + GTX 1660 Ti is strong enough for a long list of games.
hehe does not have any modern instruction set tho
_I_ 11/ago./2024 às 4:18 
https://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/552/Intel_Core_i7_i7-14700F_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-3770.html

3770k is only missing a few instructions sets vs 14700

AVX2 / Advanced Vector Extensions 2
FMA3 / 3-operand Fused Multiply-Add
Trusted Execution (but a tpm module on the board can do this)
PopinFRESH 11/ago./2024 às 4:19 
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wtf does "they they a code at least" mean?
opps threw a code, not a missing avx2.0 code but an error non-the-less.
confused everyone
So... exactly what I said? what am I "telling Cyberpunk" again?...
[-iD-] 11/ago./2024 às 4:24 
Escrito originalmente por _I_:
https://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/552/Intel_Core_i7_i7-14700F_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-3770.html

3770k is only missing a few instructions sets vs 14700

AVX2 / Advanced Vector Extensions 2
FMA3 / 3-operand Fused Multiply-Add
Trusted Execution (but a tpm module on the board can do this)
i dunno why you comapring those two now, we already posted our comparrisions earlier.
that aint the cpu we talking about, beamng has a min of i3-6300 3.8Ghz
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opps threw a code, not a missing avx2.0 code but an error non-the-less.
confused everyone
So... exactly what I said? what am I "telling Cyberpunk" again?...
that it makes an exception and tells you what it needs or w/e
Última edição por [-iD-]; 11/ago./2024 às 4:24
PopinFRESH 11/ago./2024 às 4:24 
Escrito originalmente por _I_:
https://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/552/Intel_Core_i7_i7-14700F_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-3770.html

3770k is only missing a few instructions sets vs 14700

AVX2 / Advanced Vector Extensions 2
FMA3 / 3-operand Fused Multiply-Add
Trusted Execution (but a tpm module on the board can do this)

It is missing others also like AVX512 but it isn't missing instructions for the majority of games from the era the OP is talking about.

And also, AVX2 is backwards compatible so a CPU that supports AVX can execute AVX2 instructions but it just doesn't do so as quickly since it needs multiple passes to accomplish.
Bad 💀 Motha 11/ago./2024 às 4:25 
Very few Games need AVX let alone AVX 2.0. AVX was covered with Intel Sandy Bridge and AMD FX. AVX 2 0 came out much later (don't have the time to look it up) but if a game needs AVX 2.0 then it would be a more recent and more demanding game as it's not common practice to require that. Howeveryea, lower end CPUs such as Celeron and Pentium do not have AVX instruction set. But again that doesn't apply to the OP.

They might need SSE 4.x but Intel Sandy Bridge and later have that. Plus the OP says the game ran before on an even okder PC, so the AVX thing doesn't make sense here.

What could an issue is that as some games have updated over time, they might have moved to requiring a newer minimum GPU Driver, something Win7/8 have not supported since 2020 or so. So that means to continue playing said games, you need to hop over to at least Win10 64bit 22H2. As such as OS as that has proper support for newer GPU Drivers and such.

I saw this very thing occur with Red Dead 2. It used to run fine on Win7 SP1 64bit with Vulkan and the last available NVIDIA GPU Driver from 2020 or 2021, whenever that stopped. This was fine for a while. In 2023 this changed and as a result users can no longer play that game on Win7/8
[-iD-] 11/ago./2024 às 4:29 
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not the point.
look at the comparrison between 3770k
and 6800k for example.
and look at these
"Instruction set extensions"
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