Citizen Cook 2024 年 8 月 7 日 上午 8:20
Which GPU’s will my CPU bottleneck?
I game at 4K.
My CPU is an AMD 7700X
I have 32GB of 6000mt/s

If i were to buy a 4080 or even a 4090 would my CPU cause bottlenecks at 4K?
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PopinFRESH 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 4:41 
引用自 -iD-
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You can watch the video and listen to his words yourself. If you are too lazy that is a you problem.
im not lazy, i refuse to give GN any traffic.
cool story hanz; then stfu about things you are clueless on and refuse to learn about. The OP can watch the video and learn how to use PresentMon to balance their system; contrary to your assertion from your own ignorance.
[-iD-] 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 4:42 
引用自 PopinFRESH
引用自 -iD-
im not lazy, i refuse to give GN any traffic.
cool story hanz; then stfu about things you are clueless on and refuse to learn about. The OP can watch the video and learn how to use PresentMon to balance their system; contrary to your assertion from your own ignorance.
if you don't want to know what i know.
block and ignore.
otherwise don't dictate to me what all the tests say and what some guy talking hobo satan is talking to.
[-iD-] 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 4:47 
引用自 _I_
you really dont know how things work

how can get gpu draw a more detailed image if the cpu does not send it data that is higher detail (more texture and higher poly model, or more visual effect info)

higher visual settings, is more work on the cpu and gpu, that exactly what the link you gave showed

higher res takes only more gpu, the same data is sent to the gpu
max visuals on low or high res, makes no difference on cpu
but its much more work for the gpu to draw the image with much more details
jayztwo cents video proves you wrong with his tests of cyberpunk bottlenecks
PopinFRESH 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 4:52 
引用自 -iD-
引用自 PopinFRESH
cool story hanz; then stfu about things you are clueless on and refuse to learn about. The OP can watch the video and learn how to use PresentMon to balance their system; contrary to your assertion from your own ignorance.
if you don't want to know what i know.
block and ignore.
otherwise don't dictate to me what all the tests say and what some guy talking hobo satan is talking to.
you don't know anything; you continue to demonstrate that in multiple threads.

This isn't your thread and the OP asked a question which you clearly don't know how to address and the video linked explains how to use PresentMon to see where you can balance your system for whatever game. Your ignorance doesn't mean Tom Peterson is just "some guy" that doesn't know what he is talking about. You're over here trying to imply Jayz2cents knows more than a GPU engineer who's been in the industry for decades and worked at the largest GPU company for 15 years...
[-iD-] 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 4:56 
引用自 PopinFRESH
引用自 -iD-
if you don't want to know what i know.
block and ignore.
otherwise don't dictate to me what all the tests say and what some guy talking hobo satan is talking to.
you don't know anything; you continue to demonstrate that in multiple threads.

This isn't your thread and the OP asked a question which you clearly don't know how to address and the video linked explains how to use PresentMon to see where you can balance your system for whatever game. Your ignorance doesn't mean Tom Peterson is just "some guy" that doesn't know what he is talking about. You're over here trying to imply Jayz2cents knows more than a GPU engineer who's been in the industry for decades and worked at the largest GPU company for 15 years...
nice opinions. why would you use that ap when you could monitor it and benchmark in real time with afterburner/rtss
and jayz just test things to prove things.
最后由 [-iD-] 编辑于; 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 4:56
PopinFRESH 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 5:43 
引用自 -iD-
引用自 PopinFRESH
you don't know anything; you continue to demonstrate that in multiple threads.

This isn't your thread and the OP asked a question which you clearly don't know how to address and the video linked explains how to use PresentMon to see where you can balance your system for whatever game. Your ignorance doesn't mean Tom Peterson is just "some guy" that doesn't know what he is talking about. You're over here trying to imply Jayz2cents knows more than a GPU engineer who's been in the industry for decades and worked at the largest GPU company for 15 years...
nice opinions. why would you use that ap when you could monitor it and benchmark in real time with afterburner/rtss
and jayz just test things to prove things.

Maybe if you pulled your head out of your ass and watched the video you'd know the answer to that question.

afterburner and rtss doesn't show you GPU busy. If you want to add GPU busy to rtss I'll let you take a guess at how to do that...

You install PresentMon and then add it to rtss as an additional data source. 🤡
AmaiAmai 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 8:06 
引用自 -iD-
he tested cyberpunk. the fps stayed the same no matter how low he put his cpu .
GN are the scum of the tech world

Even if that were the case, here's a few issues:

1. Cyberpunk is only one game. One game isn't a sample size or indicative of anything.

2. There could be other reasons why performance was limited other than CPU / GPU, including routines that simply cannot be made faster due to poor coding or other reasons that no one knows, and no one is going to know unless they want to get sued.:steamhappy:

The game isn't a gold standard of anything or relevant in reality. It isn't a benchmark of anything, except how hard people can fall for marketing.

When software has an obvious bias like that, I wouldn't make any decisions based on the results from it.
Citizen Cook 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 8:11 
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引用自 _I_
its the same data that the cpu sends the gpu no matter what res
its only more work for the gpu to create the frame at 4k
you lack discipline
https://www.techspot.com/article/2837-cpu-performance-4k-gaming/

I don’t know what to think. One highly rated reply on that article stated:

“ First off, people playing at 2160p, like me, don't play at low, or medium settings. They play at max settings. So your data is not representative of a REAL Use Case.

Second off, if you look at your data, the only way to be CPU bound, and using max settings, is with a 4090.

Lastly, you just proven that if you don't use a 4090, you will likely see barely any improvement by playing at 2160p with a better CPU, so I don't understand the point of this article at all since EVERY time you made some CPU benchmarks, you LITERALLY disregarded any feedback requesting 2160p results because you were raising the point that you will be GPU bound. However, now you are going 180 degrees?

I can't follow your logic anymore.

Matter of fact is that if you play games at 2160p with a high end GPU;
You will most likely play with really close to maximum graphical settings
The title you are going to play will be GPU bound.”
Citizen Cook 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 8:26 
引用自 PopinFRESH
引用自 -iD-
im not lazy, i refuse to give GN any traffic.
cool story hanz; then stfu about things you are clueless on and refuse to learn about. The OP can watch the video and learn how to use PresentMon to balance their system; contrary to your assertion from your own ignorance.

I’m going to watch the video. If the engineers say what you say they say then it’s case closed, i think.
PopinFRESH 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 9:14 
引用自 Citizen Cook
引用自 PopinFRESH
cool story hanz; then stfu about things you are clueless on and refuse to learn about. The OP can watch the video and learn how to use PresentMon to balance their system; contrary to your assertion from your own ignorance.

I’m going to watch the video. If the engineers say what you say they say then it’s case closed, i think.

Indeed, and as the comment you quoted from the moronic techspot article; there are plenty of new games which will definitely be GPU bound at 4K and max settings. Just as there are plenty of games which are going to be CPU bound even at 4K; at which point you can use the various features of the GPU to increase image quality by leveraging the idle GPU resources you have available.

You do want to somewhat match up the hardware so you aren't completely CPU bound 100% of the time; e.g. you wouldn't want to put a 4090 paired up with a Core i3 2100 on a motherboard with an H61 chipset (i.e. a 14 year old CPU that doesn't meet minimum spec for the majority of current gen games). But you have a solid current gen CPU that would match up fine with a 4090 and/or 5090 assuming you wait for that (which I would at this point).
最后由 PopinFRESH 编辑于; 2024 年 8 月 11 日 上午 9:16
LuganoX 2024 年 8 月 23 日 下午 9:14 
Just buy the best GPU you can afford, and go play games.
I assure you it's gonna be amazing.
Baker 2024 年 8 月 24 日 上午 7:38 
引用自 Citizen Cook
I game at 4K.
My CPU is an AMD 7700X
I have 32GB of 6000mt/s

If i were to buy a 4080 or even a 4090 would my CPU cause bottlenecks at 4K?

I no expert in all this but looking at your CPU I think you will be fine with either a 4080 or a 4090.
I am getting a 4080 super and I feel it's better value than the 4090 but if you have the money yeah go for it, keep it for the next PC upgrade.
The cpu is not going to let you down in any way that you would notice in most games being played at high settings at 4K.
最后由 Baker 编辑于; 2024 年 8 月 24 日 上午 7:46
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