Rikku 5. aug. 2024 kl. 16:07
Computer shutdowns only while gaming, not stress testing
Allo,

I'm having a problem, and it's making me nuts. When playing Baldur's Gate 3, and Once Human, (The only two that have caused it thus far) my computer will randomly shut down. Not crash, just turn off. I can play other games just fine so far, Kingdom Hearts 3 (On Epic), Rabi-Ribi, Sea of Stars, Palia, etc. without issue.

I've run all manner of stress tests (OCCT, all tests, some repeatedly; Prime95, Furmark, MemTest64) on the entire system, as a whole and individual components, and nothing happens. It just passes the tests.

I've been monitoring the temps, and while they're warmer than I'd like, there's nothing alarming (Not much I can do about it, it's a physical problem with the space the computer is in and the layout of the apartment, there's a bit of recirculation, but it's still well within limits)

When nothing was showing any defects, I sort of defaulted to the PSU. I got a new one, and the issue persists.

I've reloaded Windows as well, and that did nothing. My next step is to clear the CMOS, but I just keep forgetting to do it when it's a good time.

Specs:

Ryzen 7800x3D
Gigabyte X670 Aourus Elite AX
BeQuiet Straight Power 1200W PSU (Single rail) (Old one was BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 11 1000W)
64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5
RTX 4090
Various NVMe drives and SSDs

I'm at my wit's end at this point. I can just start buying new components, but I'd rather just find out what's happening and fix it. Has anyone had this issue before? Was there a resolution?
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Rod 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:20 
Its an odd one when only a specfic app does it. Nornally you would blame the app. You could record your usage op and keep an eye on it? Is there a power spike or load spike on any part when it happens?


It could be any part at all but when a game does it and others dont you tend to think its some sort of call the game made to the cpu or gpu. So if see can monitor all the loads and things we can discount that. And we can move on to the kind of calls that might cause a hard reboot.


Hard reboots are nornally just instability not minor gpu crashes that black screen these hard reboots tend to be cpu or ram being unstable. Its an absoloute nightmare i feel for you having to swap so many parts. Some times you can have a prime95 stable pc and there will be one game that will make it crash within a few minutes.
Sidst redigeret af Rod; 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:22
[-iD-] 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:21 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rod:
Its an odd one when only a specfic app does it. Nornally you would blame the app
.
apps do not cause power loss. unstable ram will provide a BSOD and a log.

also its not a hard reboot, its a shutdown.
Sidst redigeret af [-iD-]; 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:23
_I_ 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:22 
Oprindeligt skrevet af -iD-:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rod:
Its an odd one when only a specfic app does it. Nornally you would blame the app
.
apps do not cause power loss.
they can
just ask windows when you click shutdown
[-iD-] 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:23 
Oprindeligt skrevet af _I_:
Oprindeligt skrevet af -iD-:
apps do not cause power loss.
they can
just ask windows when you click shutdown
that is not power loss, that is called sending a command to turn the pc off.
_I_ 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:26 
apps can request that windows shuts down safely, ex if using a ups with usb/serial connection and power is lost, windows will shutdown before the ups runs out of battery power to support the system
Rod 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:26 
Oprindeligt skrevet af -iD-:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rod:
Its an odd one when only a specfic app does it. Nornally you would blame the app
.
apps do not cause power loss. unstable ram will provide a BSOD and a log.

also its not a hard reboot, its a shutdown.

Well not power loss but a reboot like op they can. When my system is not stable when my overclock is too far an app which is the game will cause a reboot. Theres a click then a black screen while it reboots. It can be prime95 stable i dont use p95 when games trigger it and p95 can run for days and not trigger reboots.
[-iD-] 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:28 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rod:
Oprindeligt skrevet af -iD-:
apps do not cause power loss. unstable ram will provide a BSOD and a log.

also its not a hard reboot, its a shutdown.

Well not power loss but a reboot like op they can. When my system is not stable when my overclock is too far an app which is the game will cause a reboot. Theres a click then a black screen while it reboots. It can be prime95 stable i dont use p95 when games trigger it and p95 can run for days and not trigger reboots.
re-read the op. he says shutdown. plz stop. just stop.
_I_ 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:45 
if its rebooting, that most likely windows bsod/reboot without showing the bsod

disable windows auto reboot on bsod, so it will show the baod

then write down the time and check windows logs at that time to see what happened to cause the bsod
[-iD-] 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:52 
Oprindeligt skrevet af _I_:
if its rebooting, that most likely windows bsod/reboot without showing the bsod

disable windows auto reboot on bsod, so it will show the baod

then write down the time and check windows logs at that time to see what happened to cause the bsod
welp either you are assuming it or again op left his out of the post.

wanna clear it up op? because its pretty obv the guy im talking to is basing everything on assumptions.

and i have told him this bro. many times. if he wont listen to me, lost cause.
Sidst redigeret af [-iD-]; 8. aug. 2024 kl. 13:53
Rod 8. aug. 2024 kl. 14:05 
Op left out a lot of info. As in shut down does it say windows is shutting down? If not then does it power off or reboot?


Shutdown
Powerloss
Reboot


Choose one OP
Sidst redigeret af Rod; 8. aug. 2024 kl. 14:06
[-iD-] 8. aug. 2024 kl. 14:06 
when you leave out info op all you do is cause confusion and waste time.
Rikku 8. aug. 2024 kl. 14:26 
They're just hard power losses. Goes from being on, to being off.

It's two programs that do it, that I know of. Baldurs gate 3, and once human.
[-iD-] 8. aug. 2024 kl. 14:27 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rikku:
They're just hard power losses. Goes from being on, to being off.

It's two programs that do it, that I know of. Baldurs gate 3, and once human.
program can not cause a hard off, and they would leave a log.
[-iD-] 8. aug. 2024 kl. 14:30 
it is more likely that they are causing power peaks, and possibly overloading your power routing.
perhaps they use instruction sets that need more power than others cuz not all games use the same instruction sets.
Sidst redigeret af [-iD-]; 8. aug. 2024 kl. 14:30
[-iD-] 8. aug. 2024 kl. 14:34 
oh and the only way you're really gonna know is if you get a volt meter.
Sidst redigeret af [-iD-]; 8. aug. 2024 kl. 14:37
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