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Well no, it's fixing things, but you can't fix a broken CPU. All that person can do is RMA it and/or replace it. Then hopefully it won't happen on the new CPU due to the BIOS fixes.
Quite happy with my X570 Board + 5800X3D and my X670 Board + 7800X3D
Intel and it's partners need to get their crap together and sorted out.
Meanwhile my 4790K system is still going very strong and really isn't that far behind a 12th Gen i7
Applying the new microcode update will prevent it from boosting far enough to be damaged in the future but it won't do anything about the multiple years of life that was shaved off the processors running them with Intel's defaults from before the update.
Here is one such video
https://youtu.be/dqyaiTUaH9A?si=i9q3lOu0qRwxzAPy
The chips are making incorrect voltage requests[www.tomshardware.com]. The new microcode fixes this bug and institutes a hard 1.55 volt limit.
A software bugfix won't fix physical damage on the processors, and any damage already caused is irreversible physical damage[www.theverge.com].
Basically, it's like this.
Video Transcription:
You can't fix your burnt down house with your fire extinguisher, You can't fix hardware with software.
For this reason, Intel extended warranty support on these chips, and requests that customers reach out to them for customer support[www.theverge.com]. The warranty was extended by two years. If you bought a boxed processor, the original warranty was three years, so the new warranty expires on the fifth year after you bought it. If you bought a tray O.E.M. chip, the warranty is 1 year, so you get three years of warranty support.
Another reason you'll want to R.M.A. your chip is because there is more than one issue. They had a problem with their fabrication process that lead to incorrect application of the anti-corrosive coating on the vias, so they may be subject to oxidation.
Intel claims they eradicated the oxidized processors from their supply chain in early 2023, but some may've escaped their grasp into on-the-store-shelf inventory that may have persisted on store-shelves as late as early as 2024. However, it's kind of shady as heck that they didn't make a public announcement regarding the matter when they discovered it (as if they wanted to sweep it under the rug and hope nobody noticed).
Intel has denied any possibility of a voluntary recall[www.theverge.com] of the chips, so you'll have to go through the R.M.A. process to get a replacement.
They've promised that future chips will not be affected by the bug.[www.theverge.com]
So, yeah, it's their fault and there were manufacturing defects and Intel's going to issue warranty service for them. That's why the warranty exists.
I don't know if they can fix the problem without switching e cores off and limiting boost clocks.
If this person's allegations are true, then Intel just signed its own death warrant by lying to customers regarding the nature of the so-called fix. It also doesn't make sense that they'd extend the warranty if they are trying to wait out the clock on warranty repairs.
Yeah, that's true. I've seen people claiming that they're capping their voltage to 1.4, so I was surprised to see it was 1.55 myself, but I'm just reporting what I saw written in the article.
They are in a very bad financial situation right now. I think the guy from the video is right ans Intel wants to wait it out. They can't fix the problem without switching off the E-cores and locking down the P-cores' boost clocks. I mean, they could, and that's the only way to lower the voltage to a safe level, but they would likely be sued for reducing the performance of their CPUs.
The 5-year warranty is most likely a financial decision - very costly, but far less expensive than a lawsuit.
What they are doing is probably what they consider the least expensive way to put this mess behind them.
Where can I read facts on this and what these updates do?
The reason some of them are crashing and some are not is the literal definition of silicon lottery. Some processors can handle higher overclocks over longer duration without displaying symptoms of degradation while some are weaker chips and degrade faster at the same speeds.
The people that are experiencing crashes and blue screens and instability, unfortunately, had weaker processors.
All 13'th gen and 14'th gen processors that were in use before the update are all degraded already, just some couldn't handle it.
Applying the new microcode update is (supposedly) supposed to prevent them from degrading any further though. In theory. According to Intel.
Now do people see why China and Russia don't want to be forced to use INTEL
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/Microcode-0x129-Update-for-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop/m-p/1622129
I think this statement posted on Intel Community by Intel employee is as official as it can be for now.
Apart of that you can look for some reviews and analysis of the changes and then use your own judgment on the matter.
So what is so different with 13th and 14th Gen compared to 12th Gen? I know the specs differences and such but maybe it comes down to a design flaw with 13/14th Gen I guess is what this is, huh?
Sorry I don't already know more or have been caught up. This Summer in US has been hectic and I'm trying to get some real-life stuff outside of Tech all in order.
Anyways I appreciate the help and those who fact-check instead of just listening to these YouTube folk who think they know everything. What's his name from Gamer-Nexus didn't even know how a CPU was made until not too long ago. How can he and young folks like him expect to spend a couple days on this kind of issue and have that be the whole truth once they make a couple videos. It's fine that they can be informative and wave the red flag when needed to the general public but I seriously doubt any of these Tech folks on YouTube who have their hands full with dozens of other things, have enough people or time to dedicate to such an issue and it's need for finding truth. Too many of them are spreading fear and doubt, all via rumors.
Everything else is speculation. Intel telling the whole truth is an assumption.