Windows 10 is better for gaming
Windows 10 is consistently faster in many games
probably because of less bloat
It also has the same DirectX 12 API so there is no reason to get win11
if anything more people should "downgrade"

https://youtu.be/abXKDUESFKs?si=jOzyzJ78EJegqqly
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Zefar Aug 3, 2024 @ 11:21pm 
So the margin was about 1-3 FPS on most cases and some edge case scenarios it was more.

Not much to cheer about.


Originally posted by Mabi:
Once upon a time Windows was better for playing games... Then comes the AI ​​trend, so many resources are thrown here, then it turns out that Linux is doing better and then you no longer release modern titles hoping that what you spend on AI can create something better and exclusive only for Windows, and to save time they buy all the video game companies, then it turns out that there have always been security flaws and they never wanted to create a version of the operating system just for playing, ok maybe more exposed to threats, but at least not with cpu at 100% load for security updates. Consoles fared better in this case.
Now it turns out that a national sovereign operating system is appreciated more, so Linux and indie games will become popular, Windows will remain the strangest, most curious, particular operating system, but the least used due to its own self-destruction.

The Linux crowd have been saying this for years. It's not going to happen. Windows will be the most popular OS of all time at all times. Only Mac OS could ever hope to compete with them.

Windows is still better at playing games. You install whatever game you like and start to play it.
ChickenBalls Aug 4, 2024 @ 12:07am 
lol the fans of win11 keep pointing out the difference is only "1-3" fps
but why the difference in the first place
if its a newer more modern OS why is it slower in the first place? :lunar2019laughingpig: :smilepoop:
bidulless Aug 4, 2024 @ 12:14am 
Originally posted by r.linder:
Originally posted by ★Sinon★ <3:

10 will be going out of support in oct 2025 (for general consumers) anyway and if my machine supports 11 then might as well run the newer OS. not like i'm losing anything.
That kind of thinking is why Microsoft is able to get away with doing the crap they do with Windows, with every edition they take away more and more of users' privacy and throw in more and more bloat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ZXmq5D7GE
hello
Thx for the link @r.linder interresting video and many suprising points inside . I found their chat about outlook is really disapointing and just this point if it's really true ,explain so many stuffs and the way microsoft is taking atm .... a really bad way for theirs users...
Last edited by bidulless; Aug 4, 2024 @ 12:18am
Karumati Aug 4, 2024 @ 12:17am 
Originally posted by lailaamell:
windows 7 is better for gaming still dx12 is overated
Win7 is garbo
SenMithrarin85 Aug 4, 2024 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by r.linder:
Linux was already better for performance because of distros having much lower system overhead, far less or no bloat at all, and the system does what you want it to do, the only downside for gaming on Linux right now is that a lot of games with anti-cheat software either runs with difficulties or won't run at all.

Modern Windows is just a joke and Microsoft is unlikely to make anything better because their bottom line is more important than the user.

all that benefit is negated by the performance loss you get by having to use proton etc
r.linder Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:
Originally posted by r.linder:
Linux was already better for performance because of distros having much lower system overhead, far less or no bloat at all, and the system does what you want it to do, the only downside for gaming on Linux right now is that a lot of games with anti-cheat software either runs with difficulties or won't run at all.

Modern Windows is just a joke and Microsoft is unlikely to make anything better because their bottom line is more important than the user.

all that benefit is negated by the performance loss you get by having to use proton etc
Wrong, a lot of my games perform better on Linux than on Windows.

Others perform just as well.
Last edited by r.linder; Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:16am
Crashed Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by kingjames488:
Originally posted by Crashed:
I wonder if they checked some settings that were added to Windows or their defaults changed, specifically Hardware Accelerated Graphics Scheduling, which is known to affect FPS in some cases, as well as Optimizations for windowed games. In addition, while they disabled Memory Integrity, completely disabling Virtualization Based Security is often quite difficult.
where's the setting to disable the MS web search powered by browsers unknown from my start menu?

still no one can provide me with that answer.
Does that affect performance in-game?

Here's the Registry change in .reg format:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer] "DisableSearchBoxSuggestions"=dword:00000001
Step by step in regedit at https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/disable-windows-web-search
Since this is a HKEY_CURRENT_USER value it has to be repeated on all user accounts you want it changed on.
Last edited by Crashed; Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:17am
Faiyez Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by r.linder:
Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:

all that benefit is negated by the performance loss you get by having to use proton etc
Wrong, a lot of my games perform better on Linux than on Windows.

Others perform just as well.

That simply is not the case and cannot be the case.

You are running games non natively with overhead. There's latency, lag, drop frames running the same Windows games on Linux.
Faiyez Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Both are not all that good until you debloat them and tweak them.

This.

There will be measurable differences favoring gaming performance in debloated Windows 11 compared to stock Windows 10.
AyaSensei067 Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by Karumati:
Originally posted by lailaamell:
windows 7 is better for gaming still dx12 is overated
Win7 is garbo
You can't say that Windows 7 is bad. It's still an amazing OS, even to this day.
r.linder Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by Faiyez:
Originally posted by r.linder:
Wrong, a lot of my games perform better on Linux than on Windows.

Others perform just as well.

That simply is not the case and cannot be the case.

You are running games non natively with overhead. There's latency, lag, drop frames running the same Windows games on Linux.
There are plenty of benchmarks online that prove it. Distros can be optimised enough to overcome that, Windows is a bloated and inefficient mess that's easy to beat, there's no reason why Windows performance should be better when it's crap.
Crashed Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by r.linder:
Originally posted by Faiyez:

That simply is not the case and cannot be the case.

You are running games non natively with overhead. There's latency, lag, drop frames running the same Windows games on Linux.
There are plenty of benchmarks online that prove it. Distros can be optimised enough to overcome that, Windows is a bloated and inefficient mess that's easy to beat, there's no reason why Windows performance should be better when it's crap.
The code runs just as natively on Linux as it does on Windows. Since the graphics APIs are emulated (unless the game uses OpenGL or Vulkan natively) there may be more shader stutter as DirectX shaders get recompiled to SPIR-V.
ChickenBalls Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:46am 
lol why comparing debloated win11 to stock win10?
Windows 10 debloater has been around way longer and pretty sure more win10 users use it than win11 users
Rod Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
It takes 2 secs to toggle HDR on/off in Win10/11 stop acting like it's hard to do.,


Originally posted by r.linder:
Originally posted by Rod:

I am lucky i own a AW3423DW and use the HDR 1000 mode. I havent tested auto hdr yet or win11 but was presumimg this is the way to go. I have a considerable backlog of non HDR games. Nvidia solution would be time consuming.
It's no different than enabling Auto HDR


But they said auto hdr was a windows 11 only feature. I am confused... I am referring to the feature that inserts hdr into non hdr games. Google says thats w11 only.... So its fully working in windows 10 pro? Have you confirmed that?
r.linder Aug 4, 2024 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by Rod:
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
It takes 2 secs to toggle HDR on/off in Win10/11 stop acting like it's hard to do.,


Originally posted by r.linder:
It's no different than enabling Auto HDR


But they said auto hdr was a windows 11 only feature. I am confused... I am referring to the feature that inserts hdr into non hdr games. Google says thats w11 only.... So its fully working in windows 10 pro? Have you confirmed that?
People have it working on 10

Originally posted by Crashed:
Originally posted by r.linder:
There are plenty of benchmarks online that prove it. Distros can be optimised enough to overcome that, Windows is a bloated and inefficient mess that's easy to beat, there's no reason why Windows performance should be better when it's crap.
The code runs just as natively on Linux as it does on Windows. Since the graphics APIs are emulated (unless the game uses OpenGL or Vulkan natively) there may be more shader stutter as DirectX shaders get recompiled to SPIR-V.
Linux is faster and so the gaming performance is faster depending on how fast the OS is. And DXVK is basically always used.
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