windows 11 on a 5 year old desktop(please lock this, as it attracts pirates)

[andreasaspenberg575]

i have a desktop with i7-8700k, 32 gigabytes of ram and rtx 2080 ti. would it be worth updating or would i be better off sticking with windows 10 for now?

[smokerob79]

Philco7a の投稿を引用：

only the motherboard is needed for Windows 11 support. Keep every other piece in the new build.

no.....CPUs were changed and that is the real problem why there is even a CPU list for 11......

[andreasaspenberg575]

i do have a disc drive. it is not very good but, it should be good enough to install windows.

[Tonepoet]

andreasaspenberg575 の投稿を引用：

i do have a disc drive. it is not very good but, it should be good enough to install windows.

Don't need one. You download the Windows 11 iso from their website[www.microsoft.com] then you make bootable U.S.B. installation media using Rufus[rufus.ie]. A U.S.B. install will probably go by faster too once you have the media ready.

[N3tRunn3r]

Tonepoet の投稿を引用：

andreasaspenberg575 の投稿を引用：

i do have a disc drive. it is not very good but, it should be good enough to install windows.

Don't need one. You download the Windows 11 iso from their website[www.microsoft.com] then you make bootable U.S.B. installation media using Rufus[rufus.ie]. A U.S.B. install will probably go by faster too once you have the media ready.

No ISO needed
No Rufus needed ..

..hit "Create Windows 11 Installation Media"

[Bad 💀 Motha]

andreasaspenberg575 の投稿を引用：

i do have a disc drive. it is not very good but, it should be good enough to install windows.

We don't use those; plus you'd have to buy a DVD+R 9GB to make a Win10/11 install media.

It's like $4-5 for a 16GB USB Flash Drive. Or USB Card Read w/ MicroSD card slot and use an existing MicroSD card if you have one.

Download the full Win11 ISO from the Microsoft official Win11 website.

Download RUFUS and make the bootable USB drive with Rufus and point it to the ISO file.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

N3tRunn3r の投稿を引用：

Tonepoet の投稿を引用：

Don't need one. You download the Windows 11 iso from their website[www.microsoft.com] then you make bootable U.S.B. installation media using Rufus[rufus.ie]. A U.S.B. install will probably go by faster too once you have the media ready.

No ISO needed
No Rufus needed ..

..hit "Create Windows 11 Installation Media"

That's the dumb and slow way. That still downloads the ISO and takes up double the space to do it.

Just download the bare ISO file. Easy-peasy.

And again, ensure to install your OS to an SSD, not a HDD.

[andreasaspenberg575]

i would not install it from scratch anyway. that would cost me. i would need to use the free update from windows 10.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

andreasaspenberg575 の投稿を引用：

i would not install it from scratch anyway. that would cost me. i would need to use the free update from windows 10.

It is a free upgrade when doing a clean install; you just input your Win10 key.
Do people still not know this?

[N3tRunn3r]

Bad 💀 Motha の投稿を引用：

N3tRunn3r の投稿を引用：

No ISO needed
No Rufus needed ..

..hit "Create Windows 11 Installation Media"

That's the dumb and slow way. That still downloads the ISO and takes up double the space to do it.

Just download the bare ISO file. Easy-peasy.

And again, ensure to install your OS to an SSD, not a HDD.

The Windows Media Creation Tool does the very same as the ISO + Rufus combo, which is heavily unneccessary . . . !! As so is even faster. Windows Media Creation Tool does even delete and remove all temp files and data. All in less than 5 clicks . . . !!

Windows Media Creation Tool formats the USB stick correctly, downloads setup files and copies them onto the just formatted USB Stick... All done in just a few clicks, and 100% compatible !! All data is automatically deleted after the USB Stick is set up.

"YOUR" Rufus thingy takes way more time ...
You need to FIND and to download the CORRECT ISO, you need to download Rufus, you need to SETUP Rufus and by doing a mistake the USB Boot and the Windows Setup wont work, and then afterwards Rufus copies Windows Setup files onto the USB Stick if all has been successfully edited before ... While all files are still existent and not deleted afterwards.

So YOUR suggestion is that one which you claim about the Media Creation Tool.
The absolute opposite .. !!

For beginners, people which are NOT tech savy, this ISO + Rufus combo is the most confusing part and highly NOT recommended.

The Windows Media Creation Tool is the way to go here . . . !!

Enjoy your report !!

I am tech savy, I format my USB Sticks "MANUALLY" through CMD, setup multiple "PARTITIONS" for various Windows Versions and Editions on this single USB Stick. For that, I download the major Enterprise ISO version through the Media Creation Tool and I download the major All-in-One ISO from Microsoft, then to modify "VARIOUS" installation files (WIM, SWM, ESD) and to copy them onto my formatted USB Stick with 4 Partitions mostly. For example deleting all N-Edtions but add all other Editions for a fresh Windows Install . . . It so will include Enterprise, Professional, Home as well as Education, Pro Education, Pro for Workstations and what else ... A partition for W11, W10, W7, and Linux. And an extra (hidden) Partition for tools, drivers and stuff . . .

No YUMI needed with virtual loaders, no UUI needed . . . all done via Windows' CMD.
And Rufus also did add a virtual environment before . . . So it is NEVER a "CLEAN" install.

You have no idea what you are talking about !! But to suggest ISO + Rufus for a beginner and to call me out "dumb" and "slow" . . .

The most USB Boot Softwares as YUMI and Rufus add a virtual environment to boot up the USB Stick. But this ALL is NOT needed anymore ... Not even for UNIX/Linux Deployments.

For Admins, the WIndows Media Creation Tool is a "POWERFUL" program . . . as same as its counterpart the OfficeDeploymentTool . . . Very powerful with commands . . . and with XML Files . . .

For various Linux Installations and Deployments, I DO NOT need Rufus for it, too ..
WIndows' CMD is all you need, 5 commands, that is all . . .

But this is way too far to catch for you . . . isnt it ?!

Why do you suggest such a complicated / complex workout, if the official Media Creation Tool does EXACT the same, with way less clicks, easier to handle and even cleans out temp files ...

Pff, I have again revealed too much for you . . . I am absolutely disgusted !!
Disgusted about myself as I have showed too much of stuff, and about you and your posted non-sense suggestions all the time ...

[bidulless]

Tonepoet の投稿を引用：

andreasaspenberg575 の投稿を引用：

i do have a disc drive. it is not very good but, it should be good enough to install windows.

Don't need one. You download the Windows 11 iso from their website[www.microsoft.com] then you make bootable U.S.B. installation media using Rufus[rufus.ie]. A U.S.B. install will probably go by faster too once you have the media ready.

hello

Seems good but not correct as you can't download win10 iso anymore without using some stupid trickery (debugg mod on browser and let the web site think you are using a smartphone) :
all is now offert by the jokecompany is now the mediacreation tools

And the iso created using the mediacreationtools and the iso downloaded before does not seems to be the same, at least on size if i remember well, because i let you guess why xd
4.58 go with media creation tools
5.73 go downloade iso
https://i.postimg.cc/QCPcnKbB/Capture.jpg
And if you want to remove many stuff during setup process, just use one of my old post
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/4349988612573450321/?ctp=131#c4406291470266512938 and rufus without any option from rufus as everything is on the xml file you will add

[andreasaspenberg575]

think the bios stuff is already active. doing a clean install of windows 11 is not an option, as that would cost me. only option is a free update.

[bidulless]

andreasaspenberg575 の投稿を引用：

think the bios stuff is already active. doing a clean install of windows 11 is not an option, as that would cost me. only option is a free update.

hello
good so have you disabled the cpu graphic part ?

[andreasaspenberg575]

it have always been disabled. my motherboard does not have any display exits.

[bidulless]

andreasaspenberg575 の投稿を引用：

it have always been disabled. my motherboard does not have any display exits.

hello

So now use the mediacreation tools because explaining you how to dl iso won't work with you and it will be a waste of time for me xd
choose either w10 or w11 if it's what you want and create the iso with with the tool from ms then check my old post , it should'nt be too hard to understand for you
just use the second link from my post link , the first one will be too complicated for you ....
use rufus to flash your usb key and copy the xml file under it at the same level of the setup.exe
ps ;
better to unplug your network cable during the full setup

[Crashed]

Bad 💀 Motha の投稿を引用：

Well however you do it, first before you do a clean install, which is a must, you'll need to enable TPM + FULL UEFI in the BIOS. Pretty sure SecureBoot is optional and only needed if you actually going to use Disk Encryption such as MS BitLocker.

When you go to install the OS, do it off-line. If it won't let you get around the off-line part, reboot the PC and enter the BIOS and Disable the LAN / WIFI / BT until after the OS Setup has been completed. During the screen regarding Language (after the OS installed) pick an EU country. You can leave the Language as English if that's what you prefer. But the EU country for the OS will then (after Windows Updates is done and you've rebooted) allow you to uninstall MS junk you do not need, such as Edge, OneDirve and some others. Just be sure to go install web browser of choice first, such as Chrome, Firefox; etc. before removing Edge. Once all this has been done, select the real country you want to have the PC as, then reboot.

I must test if UEFI+CSM works provided the OS is on a GPT partition. I do have a storage controller that is a bit flaky on hardware detection in pure UEFI mode and requires the CSM to launch its Option ROM.