windows 11 on a 5 year old desktop(please lock this, as it attracts pirates)

[andreasaspenberg575]

i have a desktop with i7-8700k, 32 gigabytes of ram and rtx 2080 ti. would it be worth updating or would i be better off sticking with windows 10 for now?

[Illusion of Progress]

Windows 11 will work fine on that platform.

If you're okay staying on Windows 10 for now while it's still supported, then that's also a viable option.

[Philco7a]

only the motherboard is needed for Windows 11 support. Keep every other piece in the new build.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I have no problems with putting Win11 on 10+ year old PCs. As long as they have 4 core cpu and at least 8gb ram and wx ssd it should be fine. If it's old enough to not have UEFI BIOS with active option to enable TPM 2.0 + SecureBoot the you can create your Win11 USB using official Win11 ISO + RUFUS and bypass the Win11 requirements

[[☥] - CJ -]

Make sure your Boards BIOS is up to date and go from there.

[andreasaspenberg575]

the pc already have trusted platform module 2.0 enabled. it appears in device manager. my cpu is a 6 core i7-8700k, though that was already listed in the original post.

[Lixire]

I ran 11 on a similar config for a long while and honestly it worked just fine.
same performance as 10 with a different UI and updated kernel under the hood
I would go for the upgrade and if you don't like it. You can revert back

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by andreasaspenberg575:

the pc already have trusted platform module 2.0 enabled. it appears in device manager. my cpu is a 6 core i7-8700k, though that was already listed in the original post.

Ok yes just ensure TPM + SecureBoot is actually enabled in BIOS and that BIOS is set to FULL UEFI not Legacy. Then perform a clean install of Win11 23H2 via Freahly made Win11 USB flash drive. If that same PC had Win10 activated on it before then during the Win11 install you can enter your old Win10 product key to freely activate Win11

[Crashed]

Originally posted by andreasaspenberg575:

i have a desktop with i7-8700k, 32 gigabytes of ram and rtx 2080 ti. would it be worth updating or would i be better off sticking with windows 10 for now?

If it says you are not Windows 11 compatible make sure Intel Platform Trust Technology is enabled if you don't have a hardware TPM.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

MS saying that or not doesn't make not one bit of difference what so ever on Win11 properly working or not.

[Crashed]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

MS saying that or not doesn't make not one bit of difference what so ever on Win11 properly working or not.

Just pointing out it is a simple fix in the BIOS to get through the check.

[r.linder]

It'll work fine but there isn't really a reason to yet, and 11 is generally just further downhill compared to 10 and even 8

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Just use Win10 w/ Updates until around 2028

[N3tRunn3r]

ALWAYS do a fresh & clean install ... ::

Reformat/reinstall a fresh and clean W10/W11:
Win11: https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

Win10: https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10

W10/11 Clean Install

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsinsider/cleaninstall

1. Plugin your USB with Windows 10/11 install media
   
2. Keep your correct IRST drivers ready inside an extra folder, to be save ..
   
3. Open Windows Start menu
   
4. Restart your PC while holding the Shift key to boot into the Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE). Once in the Windows Recovery Environment, choose to boot from the USB drive.

Once your drives and partitions are ALL deleted & formatted in setup, continue..

During later stage of fresh install, @ Language Selection

1. cut LAN/WLAN
   
2. "Shift + F10" to open console
   
3. type:

   oobe\bypassnro

4. auto-reboots
   
5. select:

   "I don't have internet"
   "Continue with limited setup"

6. Install your "LOCAL ACCOUNT" and disable all telemetry stuff during setup
   >> Profit

Later you can even setup a PIN in Windows Options without being online/Microsoft account, and if you like - and I suggest it - uninstall Windows OneDrive straight after you enter your freshly installed Windows and disable UAC (User Account Control)!! Afterwards let your machine connect to the internet and use Windows Update and Microsoft Store Apps update.

If updates are done, install AntiVir as "ESET Premium" and "Mozilla Firefox + uBlock Origin" (by Raymond Hill). Then search for more and specific drivers manually, as latest NVIDIA drivers, more special Chipset drivers, latest BIOS firmware, etc ..

https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/new/

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

https://www.eset.com/int/home/free-trial/

Less is always more .. especially in IT

https://www.av-comparatives.org/comparison/

https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/summary-report-2023/


Good Luck !!

[Tonepoet]

Well first of all, the 8th gen Intel processors are on Microsoft's supported processors list[learn.microsoft.com], and second of all there isn't a game out there you can't run at recommended specs. Alan wake 2 lists an RTX 3060 or an RX 6600 XT as recommended spec.

Looks like the regular RTX 2080 can still hang with the RTX 4060 or the RTX 6600 XT at least. I might even go so far as to say an 11 gigabyte 2080 ti might be able to hang with the 6700 xt Seems about right.

That 8700k is pretty well matched to a 2080 ti too, since that's just about where we start approaching the bottleneck[gamersnexus.net]. It's maybe only just about as strong as a Ryzen 3600 or 5500 though.

You can definitely keep truckin' along, but the question is if you're in the performance tier you want to be in right now. Given that you've gotten top tier components, I'm not so sure you'd like to settle for such a relatively low performance threshold relative to where you started, and you probably have the cash to spare on the luxury of the upgrade.

Doesn't have to be super high end every time either.

Ryzen's coming outwith new cards soon and rumors anticipate Battlemage cards in autumn of 2024.

Rumors have the Ryzen 5 9600 pegged at $229 and whatever the Battlemage flagship will be at $450. Tie that together with 32 gigabytes of D.D.R. 5 R.A.M. ($80-120), a 1tb m.2 S.S.D. ($60ish) and maybe a $200 am5 motherboard on the upcoming x870 chipset[www.pugetsystems.com], and you can likely overhaul your system into an am5 system for maybe $1119 tops and see a highly appreciable pef. uplift and have yourself well poised for a bigger badder upgrade later on down the line closer to the end of the AM5 lifecycle. This is of course, assuming the rumored pricing is accurate.

I'm keeping in mind that in accordance to techspot's recent C.P.U. retrospective[www.pugetsystems.com], the 7600x outperfs the 12700k and the 5800x3d, so I'm really expecting the 9600 to perf. at around that level on the cheap with a very future proof system on the cheap. Perhaps even more-so if you live in a nation that observes Black Friday[www.junglescout.com] and you can get your holiday wishlist together in time for november

Generally I'd consider a P.C. upgrade cycle to be three to four years, although it looks like the pace has slowed to more like five or six[www.pcworld.com].

You might wait until next year if you really want to stretch it out, but either way, your system has lived a commendable service life.

[DonMcK]

Can you do it - Yes, it's actually relatively straightforward.

Is it worth it - Maybe, if you can live with the 'improvements'.

I've recently upgraded and currently playing with it, but only because Linux is my main OS and I had been all but stopped booting into win 10 so had nothing to lose.