Upgrading discussion

[Jero]

I have an rtx 3060ti, should I upgrade to an rtx 4070 ti super, or do i wait for the 5000 series? or do i just upgrade now.

[PopinFRESH]

at this point in time if you aren't having issues with playing the games you want to play I'd wait for the 50 series since it is largely expected to launch either toward the end of the year or the beginning of next year.

What is the rest of your system? If you install CPU-z and run the validator then post the validation link here it will have all the relevant hardware specs for people to make better recommendations regarding potential upgrades.

Lastly, what display do you have and/or are you intending to get a new display as well? If you're running a 1080p display and have no intention of upgrading your display your 3060Ti is likely perfectly capable for most games currently and that shouldn't change between now and the end of Q1'25.

[CaptObvious75]

If you find a really good sale- do it. You can always sell it later if the 5000 series is good. Really depends on how much you hate your 3060ti right now.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Definitely wait for the 5000 series. We're supposed to (finally) get access to video cards at decent prices with large amounts of VRAM with the 5000 series. VRAM amounts matters more than anything with regards to performance in 2024 and going into 2025

[smokerob79]

I would say wait for the simple reason that it will make the 4070ti super cheaper

[Tezzious]

in all honesty i would stick with the 3060ti for another year or more, no point upgrading when that card can play practically every game out there, then in 2 years upgrade to 6000 series and get another 5 to 8 years.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Originally posted by Farscape247:

in all honesty i would stick with the 3060ti for another year or more, no point upgrading when that card can play practically every game out there, then in 2 years upgrade to 6000 series and get another 5 to 8 years.

Unfortunately that's not true anymore. The 3060 Ti is a 8GB card just like my 3070 Ti is also an 8GB card. There are about 20 different games that I would like to play but I can't play because 8GB ram isn't enough to sustain playable framerates in those games even at 1080p and the lowest possible graphics settings. 8GB of VRAM on a video card is a limiting factor pretty often. This card was the biggest mistake I've ever made in video cards and I've regretted spending money on it for years. I can't wait for Nvidia to release newer cards with 16+ GB VRAM, hopefully for $700 or less.

[Tezzious]

which games as my son has not found any where he cant get 120fps or above in.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Originally posted by Farscape247:

which games as my son has not found any where he cant get 120fps or above in.

Pretty much anything based on the new Unreal Engine 5 engine for one. Which would be these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Unreal_Engine_5_games?useskin=vector

The short list of games I can't play because my 3070 Ti has 8GB VRAM would be: Satisfactory, the new version of ARK: Survival Evolved, and No Man's Sky after the recent update (runs but have to play it on a mix of low-medium with DLSS on max performance mode just to maintain 60 FPS).

I know it's VRAM because I can watch in MSI Afterburner (or GPU-Z) and see VRAM usage go right up to 8192 MB used and then FPS tanks down and the game gets slow.

So I just don't get to play those games at all until Nvidia releases another better video card. The only options right now is a 4070 Ti Super @ 16GB (not an option.. I'm not paying $500 for a card that is the same performance as mine with just more VRAM), or the 4080 starting at $960 for a faster 16GB card, and the money cost of cards goes up from there.

[Tezzious]

that is unusual as no mans sky runs top notch for me on a 3060ti and thats on high settings with the latest update and uses about 80% vram, ark even before unreal 5 was a dog to run as it was optimised by a brickwall. Palworld on that list runs good too as i have played a lot of that on gamepass for pc. a lot of these games will be and are available for console so should work fine for PC.

but i will upgrade in a year or 2 anyway, but i look at gpu prices as descent, if i get 5 to 8 years out of it for 1500 or less then it's ok, myself and other people spend a grand every 2 years on a new phone so if i can do that i can surely pay 1500 for a top notch gpu.

[Mabi]

The power of processors and video cards is directly proportionate to the amount of bugs in Windows.

It's difficult to answer what should be done, we know in broad terms that the 4000 series is designed better than the 3000, but at the same time Nvidia has problems finding memories, so the 5000 might not be promising.

a card with ddr6 memories instead of ddr6x is also about to arrive, 4070 with more Cache

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Originally posted by Farscape247:

that is unusual as no mans sky runs top notch for me on a 3060ti and thats on high settings with the latest update and uses about 80% vram, ark even before unreal 5 was a dog to run as it was optimised by a brickwall. Palworld on that list runs good too as i have played a lot of that on gamepass for pc. a lot of these games will be and are available for console so should work fine for PC.

but i will upgrade in a year or 2 anyway, but i look at gpu prices as descent, if i get 5 to 8 years out of it for 1500 or less then it's ok, myself and other people spend a grand every 2 years on a new phone so if i can do that i can surely pay 1500 for a top notch gpu.

It's not always every time where I have problems with No Man's sky. Just occasionally I land on a random planet that causes VRAM to fly up to max and the FPS tank. On other planets it's fine. Personally if I can't enjoy a perfectly smooth experience everywhere in all parts of a game then I just won't play it until I can afford better hardware.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Originally posted by 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊:

Originally posted by Farscape247:

in all honesty i would stick with the 3060ti for another year or more, no point upgrading when that card can play practically every game out there, then in 2 years upgrade to 6000 series and get another 5 to 8 years.

Unfortunately that's not true anymore. The 3060 Ti is a 8GB card just like my 3070 Ti is also an 8GB card. There are about 20 different games that I would like to play but I can't play because 8GB ram isn't enough to sustain playable framerates in those games even at 1080p and the lowest possible graphics settings. 8GB of VRAM on a video card is a limiting factor pretty often. This card was the biggest mistake I've ever made in video cards and I've regretted spending money on it for years. I can't wait for Nvidia to release newer cards with 16+ GB VRAM, hopefully for $700 or less.

RTX 4070 Ti Super for $800 is best you can do currently if you want 16 GB Nvidia card.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

RTX 4070 Ti Super for $800 is best you can do currently if you want 16 GB Nvidia card.

Yep and that's way too much for the performance we get, IMHO.

[PopinFRESH]

Originally posted by 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊:

...The short list of games I can't play because my 3070 Ti has 8GB VRAM would be: Satisfactory, the new version of ARK: Survival Evolved, and No Man's Sky after the recent update (runs but have to play it on a mix of low-medium with DLSS on max performance mode just to maintain 60 FPS)....

Gonna say that all 3 of these examples are nonsense. I have a friend who has a 3060 (non-Ti) which only has 6GB of VRAM and they can play both Satisfactory and No Man's Sky without issue. Considering ARK lists a 2GB VRAM card in their system requirements I'd expect it'd also have no issues.

Treating UE5 as a blanket "needs more VRAM" is nonsense also. They can play Black Myth: Wukong on their 3060 without issue as well. They can play Dark and Darker without issue. The only UE5 game that has launched that they wanted to play and couldn't was the Pax Dei early access; as it does actually need 8GB of VRAM.

There will certainly be specific features that you won't be able to use and/or will need turned down but there is by no means some long laundry list of games that you "can't play" with a 3060 Ti; and that will likely still be the case for the next few years considering the current gen consoles available memory.

[Lixire]

If you have already waited this long then you might as well keep on doing so until the 50 series comes out and then upgrade