Looking for a Motherboard, with 7.1 audio jacks.

[isomorphic_projection]

Everything i found is literally just stereo.
Why do they make crappy boards nowadays. With not even the essentials you need.

[ZAP]

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ASRock AM5 seems to support it on many. The lite version of the Tachi has higher quality sound but is limited to 5.1 because "lite" but Live Mixer looks pretty sweet if you dont want monochromatic.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B650%20LiveMixer/Specification.asp

No thx, it's orange. Stil thank you for the effort.

Yeah man. Thought you were on a tighter budget because you couldn't find one.

[isomorphic_projection]

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oh ya, guess you need 4 ports for 7.1... I just do 5.1 so am used to the 3... but most boards have a standard 6 that I've used.
-line in/mic
-front center/sub
-front right/left
-middle right/left
-rear right/left
-lineout

if your board doesn't have those 6 ports you've got a discount board... or possibly are using micro-atx and they've removed it to save space.

My current board has them, 6 for 7.1.
It's also an asus, but an older model. For ddr4.

[isomorphic_projection]

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No thx, it's orange. Stil thank you for the effort.

Yeah man. Thought you were on a tighter budget because you couldn't find one.

Even if i would get it for free. Then it would be a big no go.
I really hate orange.

[Tonepoet]

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um no?

last I checked HDMI and optical only support stereo with "digital surround"... unless they updated it to carry all 8 channels it's not true surround sound.

Man, you're a blast from the past King James. H.D.M.I. has supported Dolby True H.D. lossless audio and D.T.S. H.D. Master Audio since version 1.3[www.soundandvision.com] was introduced in 2006 (article from 2007). True H.D.[professional.dolby.com] and D.T.S. H.D. Master Audio[www.lifewire.com] and are both 7.1 formats, and it can also just bitstream L.P.C.M. audio if I recall correctly. That's how most home theater audio receivers supported 7.1 surround sound: Through H.D.M.I. It had 7.1 support for at least 18 years. It's an adult now.

[ZAP]

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Yeah man. Thought you were on a tighter budget because you couldn't find one.

Even if i would get it for free. Then it would be a big no go.
I really hate orange.

I like orange boards all the way back to X58A-OC and the SOC line. I might buy that Live Mixer at $150 for no reason lol

Edit: DFI LanParty is before my time but I'd take one

[kingjames488]

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um no?

last I checked HDMI and optical only support stereo with "digital surround"... unless they updated it to carry all 8 channels it's not true surround sound.

Man, you're a blast from the past King James. H.D.M.I. has supported Dolby True H.D. lossless audio and D.T.S. H.D. Master Audio since version 1.3[www.soundandvision.com] was introduced in 2006 (article from 2007). True H.D.[professional.dolby.com] and D.T.S. H.D. Master Audio[www.lifewire.com] and are both 7.1 formats, and it can also just bitstream L.P.C.M. audio if I recall correctly. That's how most home theater audio receivers supported 7.1 surround sound: Through H.D.M.I. It had 7.1 support for at least 18 years. It's an adult now.

they might be "7.1 formats" but they output compressed digital signals in stereo... so if you have a sound system actually capable of playing back direct inputs and you use that and set it to direct input it's stereo... because it's a 2 channel compressed signal... aka not true 7.1 channel audio.

[ZAP]

And C'mon.. BOSS DS-1. Had to get the 50th Anniversary candy paint.

[kingjames488]

I've tried it with true 5.1 source to output and it's not even comparable to dolby's digital BS... GL finding a source that's actually got surround sound encoded these days tho.

[ZAP]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3314124648

[Tonepoet]

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they might be "7.1 formats" but they output compressed digital signals in stereo... so if you have a sound system actually capable of playing back direct inputs and you use that and set it to direct input it's stereo... because it's a 2 channel compressed signal... aka not true 7.1 channel audio.

What, you mean like the vast majority of blu-rays?

You seem to be talking about Prologic Ⅱ, which fakes 5.1 audio from a stereo source (with some audio tracks being mastered to specifically take advantage of it), or Dolby Digital 5.1, which offers either lossless digital stereo or lossy compressed 5.1 through Sony/Philips Digital Interface (which is sometimes carried through optical Toshiba Link cables, like on the Playstation 2).

True H.D. is called "True" H.D. because it's a lossless compression algorithm like F.L.A.C. You shouldn't be hearing a difference because the decompressed data is bit for bit identical to the uncompressed data. Normally you should not be hearing a difference if all of your stuff is True H.D. compatible. However, Dolby does fall back on older standards should an incompatibility arise. Ergo, if a True H.D. source gets sent to a Dolby Digital output, then you'll get Dolby Digital 5.1 sound that's carried alongside the True H.D. track instead.

Also, you're kind of moving the goalposts a little. Nobody was talking about the quality of the 7.1 surround output before you mentioned it.

The vast majority of people do care how good it is so long as it is good enough. That's part of why we transitioned from C.R.T. to L.C.D. even though it was the best display technology of its time[www.displaymate.com] (and still holds up extremely well for technology that was discontinued 17 years ago). More relevantly, that is also why M.P.E.G. Layer Ⅲ became so popular, despite being a lossy audio format. Smaller file sizes that could fit on smaller drives and reduce bandwidth consumption trumped quality. The best quality simply just doesn't hold a candle to "good enough and more convenient in any way whatsoever", especially where the purveyors stand to keep more of their cash from underinformed and misinformed customers. Even with today's much larger disk drives, people still choose M.P.E.G. Layer Ⅲ over uncompressed audio or F.L.A.C.

If we're talking about why, per the original post, then H.D.M.I. offering 7.1 sound via H.D.M.I. suffices to not bother giving another option, and it allows the board manufacturers to save some space on the board.

Another reason is that people who do care much about audio quality probably prefer to use an external device anyway because it's isolated from all of the electrical interference inside of the P.C. case anyways.

[kingjames488]

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they might be "7.1 formats" but they output compressed digital signals in stereo... so if you have a sound system actually capable of playing back direct inputs and you use that and set it to direct input it's stereo... because it's a 2 channel compressed signal... aka not true 7.1 channel audio.

What, you mean like the vast majority of blu-rays?

You seem to be talking about Prologic Ⅱ, which fakes 5.1 audio from a stereo source (with some audio tracks being mastered to specifically take advantage of it), or Dolby Digital 5.1, which offers either lossless digital stereo or lossy compressed 5.1 through Sony/Philips Digital Interface (which is sometimes carried through optical Toshiba Link cables, like on the Playstation 2).

True H.D. is called True H.D. because it's a lossless compression algorithm...

doesn't sound like you know what true independent audio channels are and just think that anything that can put out a different sound in more than one speaker is "surround sound"...

also who even has a blu ray drive in their PC other than me these days?!

most "PCs" don't even have an optical drive anymore ffs. :S

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most do
even the ones with 3 headphone jacks on the rear io
they can use the front mic or headphone jacks for the extra 2 channels

run the realtek audio control panel to config them as desired

idk what else they'd even be looking for... the only way to get true 7.1 audio from a PC is with the 3 dual channel 1.8mm jacks... and most PCs can use the realtek drivers to shuffle the channels around to make it work.

if OP is doing anything else it's not true 7.1... everything else is digital compression.

7.1 is 8 channels, thats 4x stereo jacks to 8 rca inputs to the receiver
5.1 is 6 channles 3x stereo jacks to 6 rca inputs on a receiver

assign each jack
front
rear,
center/sub
side

https://imgur.com/a/8cVCCJ7

if it has 3 jacsk on the rear of the board, it will need to also use the front panel mic or headphone jack as output for one of the speaker sets

even the cheapest bottom of the barrel boards can do 7.1 analog output
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M-HDV%20R4.0/index.asp
7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC887/897 Audio Codec)
https://imgur.com/a/x5ekU7Z

[kingjames488]

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idk what else they'd even be looking for... the only way to get true 7.1 audio from a PC is with the 3 dual channel 1.8mm jacks... and most PCs can use the realtek drivers to shuffle the channels around to make it work.

if OP is doing anything else it's not true 7.1... everything else is digital compression.

7.1 is 8 channels, thats 4x stereo jacks to 8 rca inputs to the receiver
5.1 is 6 channles 3x stereo jacks to 6 rca inputs on a receiver

assign each jack
front
rear,
center/sub
side

https://imgur.com/a/8cVCCJ7

if it has 3 jacsk on the rear of the board, it will need to also use the front panel mic or headphone jack as output for one of the speaker sets

that is the gist of what I've been saying, yes.

[kingjames488]

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3314124648

? you mad at the jack? you know they have adaptors?

[ZAP]

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3314124648

? you mad at the jack? you know they have adaptors?

I'm here to represent orange and join in the festivities of youse people, you know, with the arguing and use of vocabulary.