i need advice for a upgrade

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i have a AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor, Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard and a rx 7600.

i want upgrade to a 6900 XT since i would go from a low end gpu to a high end one, but is it worth it? this would double my fps and make it more stabel since i learned they are bottle necking by the gpu being too weak for the cpu and why would i bother upgrading the cpu when the gpu low key sucks.

both were gotten on sale and works at half the performance they should. i think its worth it since i would be running games at 165 fps on 1080p on the highest settings in alot of games and save 200 on the gpu. so i basally am at nut loss and lose nothing. i would love to just upgrade the gpu to a 7900xt but idk tbh since the cpu will bottleneck like crazy cause its a super high end gpu so the 6900xt would be a wise choise.


idk man ugh

[C1REX]

CPU/GPU bottleneck is different for different game and different settings + resolution.

I know there are some websites telling some numbers like 24% CPU to GPU bottleneck but these numbers are made up.

You can test your CPU by setting everything to low and choosing the lowest resolution possible. 480p if available.

If your GPU utilisation drops below 95% then you now what is your CPU limit for that specific game. Most graphical settings have no effect on CPU performance with very few exceptions. CPU almost never hits 100% in games. Usually bottlenecks below 50%.

If your GPU is at 100% then you know where is the limit for your card.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av C1REX:

CPU/GPU bottleneck is different for different game and different settings + resolution.

I know there are some websites telling some numbers like 24% CPU to GPU bottleneck but these numbers are made up.

You can test your CPU by setting everything to low and choosing the lowest resolution possible. 480p if available.

If your GPU utilisation drops below 95% then you now what is your CPU limit for that specific game. Most graphical settings have no effect on CPU performance with very few exceptions. CPU almost never hits 100% in games. Usually bottlenecks below 50%.

If your GPU is at 100% then you know where is the limit for your card.

but would you upgrade a rx 7600 to a 6900 if the 6900 is 200 dollers off? i basically lose 80 dollers but also gain a good gpu. i got the 7600 for like 240 and the 6900 is 450

[Tonepoet]

Not going to lie. I'm pretty tepid on an upgrade that isn't to a subsequent generation of card. I'm even more tepid on an upgrade to a previous generation card. It's certainly an upgrade mind you, but it feels wrong, and it seems like it would've been more cost-effective to just buy the right card in the first place.

Anyway, what's the wattage of your power supply?

The RX 6950 XT is more readily available than the left over RX 6900 XT, and buyable at $530 at cheapest, by more than enough that it doesn't make any sense to try and buy an actual 6900 over a 6950. If you jump up from an RX 7600 to an RX 6950, you're going to be drawing much more in the way of power, you're jumping from a 165 watt card to a 335 watt card. That's 175 watts worth of extra power consumption.

It seems pretty likely to me that it's not going to just be a simple swap out upgrade, but also a change of P.S.Us. The 7900 G.R.E. is a bit weaker than the 6950, but only by about 8% and it only consumes 260 watts of power instead of 335 watts.

260 watts is still 95 watts more than a 7600, but depending on how you've specced your P.S.U. you might be able to get away without replacing the P.S.U., and considering you can buy a 7900 G.R.E. for just $520 putting off a power supply upgrade may very well just be worth the minor sacrifice in performance, which is to say nothing about the savings on your electrical bill.

We're also possibly looking at the RTX 4070 at this approximate price ($534 to be exact) if you haven't married team red, and it's only a 200 watt card, and then the difference between 165 and 200 is only 35 watts, which probably won't necessitate a P.S.U. upgrade.

Though also for just about $50 more, you can get a 4070 Super for about $580 right now[www.amazon.com], and a 4070 super outclasses a 6950 somewhat. It's a little more power hungry than the 4070 at 220 watt consumption, but it's still lower consumption. than any of the A.M.D. cards, and might be worth considering if it fits within in your power budget.

Now it may just come to pass that you'll have to upgrade your P.S.U. someday anyway, but it'd possibly be best to put that off so you can more accurately size the new one to the specific needs of the system that actually necessitates it.

[C1REX]

Ursprungligen skrivet av REALiNSaNgAMingGODPrODIgY:

Ursprungligen skrivet av C1REX:

CPU/GPU bottleneck is different for different game and different settings + resolution.

I know there are some websites telling some numbers like 24% CPU to GPU bottleneck but these numbers are made up.

You can test your CPU by setting everything to low and choosing the lowest resolution possible. 480p if available.

If your GPU utilisation drops below 95% then you now what is your CPU limit for that specific game. Most graphical settings have no effect on CPU performance with very few exceptions. CPU almost never hits 100% in games. Usually bottlenecks below 50%.

If your GPU is at 100% then you know where is the limit for your card.

but would you upgrade a rx 7600 to a 6900 if the 6900 is 200 dollers off? i basically lose 80 dollers but also gain a good gpu. i got the 7600 for like 240 and the 6900 is 450

I can’t answer that for you. Check how much more performance do you need and what is the best value at that price. 7800xt and 7900GRE have similar performance. Check its prices. All 3 are very good options in my opinion.

I would stick with AMD in your case as their drivers use less of CPU power. Especially for 1080p gaming when DLSS is close to useless. If you had a 1440p monitor then nvidia has very good options as well.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Tonepoet:

Not going to lie. I'm pretty tepid on an upgrade that isn't to a subsequent generation of card. I'm even more tepid on an upgrade to a previous generation card. It's certainly an upgrade mind you, but it feels wrong, and it seems like it would've been more cost-effective to just buy the right card in the first place.

Anyway, what's the wattage of your power supply?

The RX 6950 XT is more readily available than the left over RX 6900 XT, and buyable at $530 at cheapest, by more than enough that it doesn't make any sense to try and buy an actual 6900 over a 6950. If you jump up from an RX 7600 to an RX 6950, you're going to be drawing much more in the way of power, you're jumping from a 165 watt card to a 335 watt card. That's 175 watts worth of extra power consumption.

It seems pretty likely to me that it's not going to just be a simple swap out upgrade, but also a change of P.S.Us. The 7900 G.R.E. is a bit weaker than the 6950, but only by about 8% and it only consumes 260 watts of power instead of 335 watts.

260 watts is still 95 watts more than a 7600, but depending on how you've specced your P.S.U. you might be able to get away without replacing the P.S.U., and considering you can buy a 7900 G.R.E. for just $520 putting off a power supply upgrade may very well just be worth the minor sacrifice in performance, which is to say nothing about the savings on your electrical bill.

We're also possibly looking at the RTX 4070 at this approximate price ($534 to be exact) if you haven't married team red, and it's only a 200 watt card, and then the difference between 165 and 200 is only 35 watts, which probably won't necessitate a P.S.U. upgrade.

Though also for just about $50 more, you can get a 4070 Super for about $580 right now[www.amazon.com], and a 4070 super outclasses a 6950 somewhat. It's a little more power hungry than the 4070 at 220 watt consumption, but it's still lower consumption. than any of the A.M.D. cards, and might be worth considering if it fits within in your power budget.

Now it may just come to pass that you'll have to upgrade your P.S.U. someday anyway, but it'd possibly be best to put that off so you can more accurately size the new one to the specific needs of the system that actually necessitates it.

1000 i think, my last one died so i maxed it out

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i am still confused what am i suppsoed to upgrade too and if its worth it

[C1REX]

Ursprungligen skrivet av REALiNSaNgAMingGODPrODIgY:

i am still confused what am i suppsoed to upgrade too and if its worth it

If you are not sure then it’s probably not worth it.
New AMD card are rumoured to focus on value so you may want to wait and see. It’s just few months.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av REALiNSaNgAMingGODPrODIgY:

i am still confused what am i suppsoed to upgrade too and if its worth it

If you are not sure then it’s probably not worth it.
New AMD card are rumoured to focus on value so you may want to wait and see. It’s just few months.

so i guess sales don't matter in gpus and cpus

[hackintoshchap]

The new AMD cards are lower end Q1 2025 and higher spec models Q2 - that appears to be the latest info.

For approx models performance of GPU models use the Techpowerup Relative performance quide is a handy reference. You can consider how price and performance buys you what you want.

I would rather go for a 7800 XT unless there was a big reduction on price on the 6900 XT as they have similar performance. Going higher in AMD model range will yield better performance particularly in easy to play titles.

You need to consider 1080P as an old screen resolution, unless you are playing e-sports style titles at high resolution.

If you go to 1440P, then there are more pixels on screen and greater detail per square inch - it is also less of a bottleneck on the CPU.

Personally, I would buy the best GPU performance that you can reasonably afford - without it feeling that it is a huge expense.

Next, I would probably look at getting something like a 1440P, 165Hz monitor.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6900-xt.c3481

[hackintoshchap]

Why a monitor is a great modern upgrade for gaming:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzjA5pdsNs

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Ursprungligen skrivet av hackintoshchap:

Why a monitor is a great modern upgrade for gaming:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzjA5pdsNs

already did

[Hoppled]

I’d either go with 7800 XT or 7900 XT. Otherwise, wait. 4070 has 12GB of VRAM which no one should be buying in 2024.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

*plays in 1920x1080*

Steam < "get the 7900xtx!!!!"

Me < *wondering what's actually wrong with the rx7600 an 1920x1080 as that's the target resolution of said GPU*