Any fixes for a friend PC build for 1440p Gaming?

[Memes]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mpjb34

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($394.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($169.99 @ MSI)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($0.00)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($1079.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $2073.75

Made this build for a friend who would be using this PC for mainly single player games all on high settings like Elden Ring, Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 4 and 76, Dragon Dogma 2, Modded Minecraft and occasionally shooters but hes not going to do no overclocking just purely for gaming and school. The build I made should maximize his budget but any improvements you guys would recommend?

Got another friend said I'm cheaping out on the cooler, motherboard, and PSU like cooler might not cool the CPU enough, motherboard wouldnt last go for a X670 and PSU is cheap needs to go for higher wattage reputable brand so he made this -

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dCkHcH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($394.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Elite 360 78.02 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($189.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($293.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($0.00)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($172.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($1019.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H9 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2611.88

Any reason to pay an extra $600 dollars going for theses parts? Same friend for this build wanted to go for 64gbs of ram but told him thats overkill but keeps on insisting any reason to go for 64gigs instead of 32gigs?

[Norman Schwarzkopf Jr.]

Origineel geplaatst door Memes:

Made this build for a friend who would be using this PC for mainly single player games all on high settings like Elden Ring, Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 4 and 76, Dragon Dogma 2, Modded Minecraft and occasionally shooters

A 4080 for Fallout 4, Fallout 76, Elden Ring, Dragon Dogma and Minecraft? You should get a GTX 1080 or something similar.
Cyberpunk could get a bit tricky but everything else should be fine. Pair it with a i5 10th generation and it will run all those listed games on ultra 1440p.

[_I_]

not at this point

more ram, you can add or replace it later when you need more than 32g
more drives, you can also add them later
imho, with the x670e board, get a 2tb nvme pci-e 5, just to make use of the boards pci-e 5.0 so more lanes will be free for other devices
psu, only if you plan on using a power demanding gpu/cpu later
but 850w is more than enough for the build
but also like a $100-150 future upgrade

nvme pci-e 5.0 drives and ddr5 prices will drop and speeds will go up in the future

using filters can save a little more
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nC8X89

[Memes]

Origineel geplaatst door Norman Schwarzkopf Jr.:

Origineel geplaatst door Memes:

Made this build for a friend who would be using this PC for mainly single player games all on high settings like Elden Ring, Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 4 and 76, Dragon Dogma 2, Modded Minecraft and occasionally shooters

A 4080 for Fallout 4, Fallout 76, Elden Ring, Dragon Dogma and Minecraft? You should get a GTX 1080 or something similar.
Cyberpunk could get a bit tricky but everything else should be fine. Pair it with a i5 10th generation and it will run all those listed games on ultra 1440p.

he has the money plus he wants all the game to play on his 1440p 165hz monitor

[Dutchgamer1982]

ok first build.

I'd replace that 4080 super for an RX 7900 XTX
-thats saves a ton of money.. while you GAIN 5% performance.


I picked this model as it is a good brand, was one of the cheapest and had the 2d best boost clock.
I considered the Saphire Nitro+ thats the best amd brand and it had the higest boost clock.. but at 77 euro more thats a nope.

============================================

now how to use this money you saved...

your motherboard.. is a bad pick.. it has a crappy audiochip.. you want an alc 1220 chip.
thats why I replace it for an NZXT N7 B650E, the black version as somehow it is much cheaper than the white version.
->
for 30 euro more you can get the asus tuf gaming X670E.. but asus motherboards.. are hit and miss and your user won't overclock so the NZXT N7 will do nicely.

memory.. in a system like this I would add 64gb not 32.. I added a nice set.. that now also has 7 dollar discount.

I'd liked to replace that SSD for the
Lexar NM790 4TB
or the upcming Lexar NM1090 4B...
but that would need to big comprised elsewhere and the ssd you picked is fine to.
but perhaps thats an upgrade for later.

other small changes...

I picked a slightly cheaper PSU (5 dollar saved)
I picked a slighly cheaper case (10 dollar saved)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KNKGQP

so I doubled your ram and got you a better motherboard (with better audio) and got you a 5% boost to grafical performance, while even being 8 dollar cheaper.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Can go with RTX 4070 Ti Super, it`s $200 cheaper and plenty good for 1440p.

[Dutchgamer1982]

oh and that 2d list is nonsence.. that cooler you picked is one of the better aircoolers and plenty for that cpu.
utter waste of money to pick that AIO.

his case is even more a waste of money
no need for that kind of volume.. it's overkill and thus waste of money.


1000w psu??? you dont even need that much
more waste of money
I gave you a psu that has enough watt.. the same gold rating, is also fully modulair and that still has a 12 pin connector should he ever need it in the future.

you don't need an 670X motherboard.. you aint going overclock.
and the one he picked does not even have an ALC 1220 chip.. only a ALC 1200 (which is already much better than what your motherboard had but still..)

him picking 64gb memory.. thats where we agree.. I just picked a slighly cheaper type. he seems a bit brand-obsessed. iat least here his pick was not that bad but why spend that extra 30 if you don't have too.

finally his m.2 chooice.. the samsung pro it is a good brand... a nice m.2 it is very very reliable.. but again his brand fanatism shows..
the lexor I considered is even more reliable and is also faster.
your pick is still plenty reliable and speedwise closer to the lexor than this samsung disk.
**so I see no need... to spend money here... and while I'd liked a lexor prices on this weird partpicker side are odd.. as it different from in my own nation some products are much more expensive others less.. and lexar m.2 on partpicker overcharge by 50-80% while your m.2 pick is almost halve what it cost here..

[Memes]

Origineel geplaatst door Dutchgamer1982:

oh and that 2d list is nonsence.. that cooler you picked is one of the better aircoolers and plenty for that cpu.
utter waste of money to pick that AIO.

his case is even more a waste of money
no need for that kind of volume.. it's overkill and thus waste of money.


1000w psu??? you dont even need that much
more waste of money
I gave you a psu that has enough watt.. the same gold rating, is also fully modulair and that still has a 12 pin connector should he ever need it in the future.

you don't need an 670X motherboard.. you aint going overclock.
and the one he picked does not even have an ALC 1220 chip.. only a ALC 1200 (which is already much better than what your motherboard had but still..)

him picking 64gb memory.. thats where we agree.. I just picked a slighly cheaper type. he seems a bit brand-obsessed. iat least here his pick was not that bad but why spend that extra 30 if you don't have too.

finally his m.2 chooice.. the samsung pro it is a good brand... a nice m.2 it is very very reliable.. but again his brand fanatism shows..
the lexor I considered is even more reliable and is also faster.
your pick is still plenty reliable and speedwise closer to the lexor than this samsung disk.
**so I see no need... to spend money here... and while I'd liked a lexor prices on this weird partpicker side are odd.. as it different from in my own nation some products are much more expensive others less.. and lexar m.2 on partpicker overcharge by 50-80% while your m.2 pick is almost halve what it cost here..

forgot to mention that he prefers an nvidia card instead cant hate it so thats why i went with the 4080 Super he has the money to do so just want to maximize his budget

[Dutchgamer1982]

Origineel geplaatst door Memes:

Origineel geplaatst door Dutchgamer1982:

oh and that 2d list is nonsence.. that cooler you picked is one of the better aircoolers and plenty for that cpu.
utter waste of money to pick that AIO.

his case is even more a waste of money
no need for that kind of volume.. it's overkill and thus waste of money.


1000w psu??? you dont even need that much
more waste of money
I gave you a psu that has enough watt.. the same gold rating, is also fully modulair and that still has a 12 pin connector should he ever need it in the future.

you don't need an 670X motherboard.. you aint going overclock.
and the one he picked does not even have an ALC 1220 chip.. only a ALC 1200 (which is already much better than what your motherboard had but still..)

him picking 64gb memory.. thats where we agree.. I just picked a slighly cheaper type. he seems a bit brand-obsessed. iat least here his pick was not that bad but why spend that extra 30 if you don't have too.

finally his m.2 chooice.. the samsung pro it is a good brand... a nice m.2 it is very very reliable.. but again his brand fanatism shows..
the lexor I considered is even more reliable and is also faster.
your pick is still plenty reliable and speedwise closer to the lexor than this samsung disk.
**so I see no need... to spend money here... and while I'd liked a lexor prices on this weird partpicker side are odd.. as it different from in my own nation some products are much more expensive others less.. and lexar m.2 on partpicker overcharge by 50-80% while your m.2 pick is almost halve what it cost here..

forgot to mention that he prefers an nvidia card instead cant hate it so thats why i went with the 4080 Super he has the money to do so just want to maximize his budget

Gotcha.. ok. redo..

[C1REX]

Origineel geplaatst door Memes:

forgot to mention that he prefers an nvidia card instead cant hate it so thats why i went with the 4080 Super he has the money to do so just want to maximize his budget

I don’t think you can do much better for the money. It’s a fantastic build with nothing to really improve.
He can do high refresh 1440p gaming or 4K + DLSS high refresh.

Just be mindful that we are getting close to 5090 and maybe 5080 but who knows when they are really coming out.

[Dutchgamer1982]

well than.. 4080 and 4080 super are basicly on the same tier performing.. so I looked but surprisingly unlike in my own country on this page 4080 without super cost more that with.

you still can pick a cheaper 4080 super... I would stay away from PNY (terrible RMA support).. but gigabyte is a respectable brand.. and their 4080 super cuts 80 euro off.

still it is more expensive than the better beforming 7900XTX
so you come out a bit over budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xrMDYN

suggestions to stay in budget :

well the easiest is just to scrap that extra m.2.. you already got a 1tb m.2
than he can later add a proper 4TB m.2 stick when he needs more storage.
(it is easier to later add an extra m.2 than it is to double your ram)|

but if thats no option for you.. the only unfortunate sensible chooce is indeed to not go for 64gb of ram.. than you get this for 2050 dollar :

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NdxNt7

I stick firm to my pick for the motherboard
(the only cheaper one with the right audiochip is either the ASUS TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WIFI (and as said asus motherboards are known for terrible quality control.. so best not).. and the Gigabyte B650 AORUS PRO AX (rev. 1.0) -> which is rev1.. and thus has no pcie gen 5.. just 4.. not what you want.
so you really want to spend the extra money on this better motherboard vs the one you picked.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Origineel geplaatst door C1REX:

Origineel geplaatst door Memes:

forgot to mention that he prefers an nvidia card instead cant hate it so thats why i went with the 4080 Super he has the money to do so just want to maximize his budget

I don’t think you can do much better for the money. It’s a fantastic build with nothing to really improve.
He can do high refresh 1440p gaming or 4K + DLSS high refresh.

Just be mindful that we are getting close to 5090 and maybe 5080 but who knows when they are really coming out.

That is some time away.. Q3 is announched... and more likely towards the end of that than the beginning... so that be still 4-5 months away.. now the new ryzen series and new chipset for it.. yeah those are to release in just 2-3k weeks.
so he might get a cheaper motherboard of an upgrade for that 7800x3d if he waits a while.

[C1REX]

Origineel geplaatst door Dutchgamer1982:

Origineel geplaatst door C1REX:

I don’t think you can do much better for the money. It’s a fantastic build with nothing to really improve.
He can do high refresh 1440p gaming or 4K + DLSS high refresh.

Just be mindful that we are getting close to 5090 and maybe 5080 but who knows when they are really coming out.

That is some time away.. Q3 is announched... and more likely towards the end of that than the beginning... so that be still 4-5 months away.. now the new ryzen series and new chipset for it.. yeah those are to release in just 2-3k weeks.
so he might get a cheaper motherboard of an upgrade for that 7800x3d if he waits a while.

Good point.
non x3D CPUs are coming first but those aren't faster than the 7800x3D but the 9800x3D should come out somewhere with September from what I've heard. New CPUs will also support faster RAM.

So few month away from a whole new generation potentially. On the other hand you can wait forever for better and better deals and that friend would miss out on summer gaming.