are there any modern pcs with ibm cpus in them?
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Originally posted by Zygfryd:
There are workstations[www.raptorcs.com], but the prices don't really let them qualify as PCs.
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IBM is developing 1mm and 2mm CPU's with 64 processors and 32 GPU's on them.

IBM is still around just in a different sector of industry/business.

Here, IBM is right down the road from Nvidia and Red Hat. :csd2smile:
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Tonepoet Jun 30, 2024 @ 1:01am 
I don't really know what you mean. There were a fair number of Power P.C. based consoles. I think the Gamecube, Wii, Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 were variants on Power P.C. hardware, and I.B.M. had a hand in developing that architecture.

Though I don't think I.B.M. made their own processors, or at least not since a very long time ago. All of the Pentiums were made by Intel, and they had competition from A.M.D. and Cyrix around that time, although Cyrix folded because to their great misfortune, Quake ran poorly on their processors. Yeah, it was such a popular game that quake compatiblity was make or break. Id software also arguably did in the Amiga too.

I don't really real any I.B.M. P.C. processors actually made by I.B.M., although perhaps it's from an earlier time period than I'm aware of.

Otherwise any x86 and x64 processor can trace its legacy back to the old I.B.M. P.C. compatible chips. Some people have even had limited success getting D.O.S. based Windows 98 running on older AM4 chips, albeit with hiccups along the way due to lack of vendor driver support, and the understandable lack of foresight on the part of Windows 98's design.

Some dude named Rudolph Loew ended up with a particular need to modernize Windows 98 well beyond what you'd have though possible and made a bunch of patches[retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com]. He used to charge for them, but he died (bless his soul) and one of his sons released them to the public.

Otherwise those old chips have been out of production for a long time, so you've either got people recycling old stock into new hardware like the Hand 386[liliputing.com], which I haven't seen available in ages anyway or you'd realistically have to resort to a Field Programmable Gate Array (F.P.G.A.).

F.P.G.As. are basically reconfigurable chips with hardware level programming that are used to prototype other chips, and can be used to achieve things once thought to be practically impossible (like gamecube component cable clones}. The most popular project amongst those was Mister[www.retrorgb.com], and there's an implementation of the 468 chip for it.

The D.E. 10 Nano prototyping kit Mister is based around basically doubled in price a few years ago, but recently a clone project was announced[www.timeextension.com] that should bring it back within the realm of affordability, or maybe even make it more affordable than it was in the first place.


So kind of, sort of, I guess?

Maybe I've misunderstood the nature of the question though.
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76561198285398721 Jun 30, 2024 @ 1:03am 
ngl i have no idea what either of these answers are talking about
Tonepoet Jun 30, 2024 @ 1:06am 
Technonerd babble. Don't worry about it. >_> <_< V_V
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Zygfryd Jun 30, 2024 @ 2:10am 
There are workstations[www.raptorcs.com], but the prices don't really let them qualify as PCs.
Obsessive Power Jun 30, 2024 @ 2:11am 
Is in currently for general home user use with Windows PC's? No I don't think so. The main CPU IBM is involved in is the PowerPC Line. PPC processors were used in the GameCube, Wii, WiiU, Xbox 360 and PS3 consoles.

Even when the PowerPC line was first created, it wasn't an all IBM thing, it was an alliance of companies called AIM which was a collaboration between IBM, Apple and Motorola.

When the first IBM PC was was introduced (Model 5150) it used an Intel 8088 processor. These CPU's were sourced from Intel.
SlowClick Jun 30, 2024 @ 5:02am 
Showing my age here - I'm pretty sure my 2nd PC had an IBM cpu in it - I built it myself from parts (reusing most of the parts from the old one). I remember that 1Mb RAM sticks cost $100 each and a 170Mb HDD cost around $400. This was late 1980s or early 1990s. Completely irrelevant to this topic though.
LeviathanWon Jun 30, 2024 @ 5:25am 
It's just x86, for the CPU, it's the same old with new stuff put into it for the consumer.

IBM is a big firm, they do lots of different stuff with electronic engineering. It's not really consumer grade stuff, you don't see the brand unless you really look for it with a microscope on some chip sets, so no, there isn't much IBM for you and me... on a branded consumer level where you can see it.

We can find IBM stuff in our Ethernet chip sets, and all kinds of tiny little circuits on your consumer motherboard. IBM is in your computer, along with apple, amd, intel and a whole bunch of different companies all at the same time. You can probability find IBM in your toaster if you look hard enough.

IBM was the first company to make the "Personal" Computer.
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LeviathanWon Jun 30, 2024 @ 5:37am 
Think the last time they did a consumer / pleb (pleb being me) cpu chip was the xbox360.

But they make CPU chips in a lot of stuff, that I would not use unless I was working for a company / factory / legitimate Organization / business .

You can be a test subject and use Fedora linux anytime you want. You can buy RedHat and use it for whatever you want to use it for in a small business, if that is what you want to do with the software.
Last edited by LeviathanWon; Jun 30, 2024 @ 5:40am
76561198285398721 Jun 30, 2024 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by SlowClick:
Showing my age here - I'm pretty sure my 2nd PC had an IBM cpu in it - I built it myself from parts (reusing most of the parts from the old one). I remember that 1Mb RAM sticks cost $100 each and a 170Mb HDD cost around $400. This was late 1980s or early 1990s. Completely irrelevant to this topic though.
still interesting
kiwikev Jun 30, 2024 @ 5:52am 
Havn't seen anything newer than the Cyrix/IBM MMX processor's which was way back in the 90's

On the x86 platform its only AMD and INTEL these days for mainstream PC's.
76561198285398721 Jun 30, 2024 @ 5:54am 
Originally posted by LeviathanWon:
It's just x86, for the CPU, it's the same old with new stuff put into it for the consumer.

IBM is a big firm, they do lots of different stuff with electronic engineering. It's not really consumer grade stuff, you don't see the brand unless you really look for it with a microscope on some chip sets, so no, there isn't much IBM for you and me... on a branded consumer level where you can see it.

We can find IBM stuff in our Ethernet chip sets, and all kinds of tiny little circuits on your consumer motherboard. IBM is in your computer, along with apple, amd, intel and a whole bunch of different companies all at the same time. You can probability find IBM in your toaster if you look hard enough.

IBM was the first company to make the "Personal" Computer.
definitely not consumer grade, but surface level, to my dumb ass, it looks like the ibm power cpus are comparable to the regular intel and amd cpus found in pcs, so i thought it was odd that i couldnt find any modern instances of a pc with an intel cpu at its heart

not necessarily consumer grade, but it would seem odd if nobody in the world thought of putting one in a pc, if they really are comparable
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LeviathanWon Jun 30, 2024 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by 76561198285398721:
Originally posted by LeviathanWon:
It's just x86, for the CPU, it's the same old with new stuff put into it for the consumer.

IBM is a big firm, they do lots of different stuff with electronic engineering. It's not really consumer grade stuff, you don't see the brand unless you really look for it with a microscope on some chip sets, so no, there isn't much IBM for you and me... on a branded consumer level where you can see it.

We can find IBM stuff in our Ethernet chip sets, and all kinds of tiny little circuits on your consumer motherboard. IBM is in your computer, along with apple, amd, intel and a whole bunch of different companies all at the same time. You can probability find IBM in your toaster if you look hard enough.

IBM was the first company to make the "Personal" Computer.
definitely not consumer grade, but surface level, to my dumb ass, it looks like the ibm power cpus are comparable to the regular intel and amd cpus found in pcs, so i thought it was odd that i couldnt find any modern instances of a pc with an intel cpu at its heart

If you wanted to work in information technology,(personally I don't have enough formal education to do that line of work), then you would see the server stacks a lot of them are IBM with large processing chips in them.
Last edited by LeviathanWon; Jun 30, 2024 @ 6:13am
_I_ Jun 30, 2024 @ 6:15am 
rack mount server doesnt really count as pc (personal computer)
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