is AM4 still worth to get or AM5 the better option?

[raz]

the title...

[Omega]

AM4 is still a fine platform, CPUs are still releasing for it. If you can get one for a good price go for it.

[michaelplehner]

In the long run AM5 will be better. There are great deals on AM4 but AMD is pretty good at keeping a cpu socket the same for a long time. If you buy an AM5 you will still have it 6 years from now. I am still on my AM4 from early 2018 and I have no plans to change.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von michaelplehner:

I am still on my AM4 from early 2018 and I have no plans to change.

Same here.

[A&A]

AM4 for budget builds is good.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

The newer AM4 and AM5 CPU's have similar price tags is one reason I did not upgrade my CPU from R7 1800x

[Kobs]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von A&A:

AM4 for budget builds is good.

Mine is an AM4 and the processor alone is worth $1000+

[A&A]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kobs:

Mine is an AM4 and the processor alone is worth $1000+

I don't know of any AM4 CPUs that cost over 1k MSRP. If it's a Ryzen 9 5950X it's a very good CPU, but today if someone has to buy a workstation/high end CPU on an older platform vs a more moderate but newer one. I'm with mixed opinion here.

[Illusion of Progress]

The "AM4 or AM5" question very much depends on the budget at this point.

I'd try to go AM5 by default, but if your budget is lower, AM4 is more than fine. In that case, you'd be looking at a 5500, 5600/X, or maybe a 5700X at most. I feel like once you start looking at the 5800X3D and the likes, you're better off going with AM5 and a 7500F, 7600, or even 7700X. The reason is, they will perform similar (enough) to the 5000 series X3D in games, be better outside of games, and be on a newer platform. The AM4 X3Ds make more sense as upgrades at this point. That's not to say buying AM4 new and going with a 5700X3D/5800X3D is a bad idea. It's not. But I'd probably go with AM5 by default over that idea and go with AM4 at this point only if I were doing a 5500/5600 or something.

It's not too different on Intel's side of things, except the last few generations are on the same platform instead of two different ones, but the overall idea remains the same. On a budget, you might be looking at a cheap 12600KF/12700KF on sale paired with DDR4, and with more of a budget you'd be looking at the 13th/14th generation with DDR5.

Same on AMD's side, only the 5000 and 7000 series are on different sockets.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Incredible Magical Cupcake:

The newer AM4 and AM5 CPU's have similar price tags is one reason I did not upgrade my CPU from R7 1800x

The AM4 CPUs tend to be cheaper though? Sure, they're a bit slower, but they also tend to be a bit cheaper, so that tracks. The fact that you can get performance that's not much slower than the latest generation by replacing one part instead of three seems like a solid deal to me then?

The only possible hurdle might be if you have slower RAM (sub-3,200 MHz) and would want to replace it too, which would be likely on a first generation Ryzen. At that point, yeah you may as well stay on the 1800X and move to AM5 later.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kobs:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von A&A:

AM4 for budget builds is good.

Mine is an AM4 and the processor alone is worth $1000+

No AM4 CPU is worth even close to that much right now (nor ever was?).

For gaming, the best CPU on the platform (5800X3D) costs about a third of that brand new. Stuff is also worth less if it's not new, and your CPU probably isn't, so it's not worth $1,000.

Everything else on the AM4 platform is slower than it (the 5800X3D) in gaming. Even the cheaper 5700X3D sibling is ~7% slower. That really only leaves the 5950X and the cheaper 5900X sibling, which are great in multi-threaded stuff... but if you have the budget for that brand new, I'd say you're probably better off going with AM5 at this point. Reason being, a 7700X is almost as fast as the 5900X in multi-threading (which is the only reason to buy a Ryzen 9), while being faster in single threaded and being on a newer platform you can upgrade later. And if you're looking at a 5950X, you can definitely get a 7900X (or the 7900 non-X, which is one of AM5's most underrated CPUs IMO).

[Mr White]

AM4 if you on a budget and have priorities right now. But AM5 is more modern.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

AM4 seems fine I use the older R7 which also has a compiling issue but to use it for developing games is fine also music creation so you can get away with it and especially the newer AM4 CPU's, one is more for gaming and one is very expensive but rated the same as a brand new R7 1800x (2016) but it's still R9 and far more superior then the first generation of Zen.

The R9 5900X is only $100 less than the R9 7900X but the major money issue I think comes more from the newer motherboards being more expensive.

[Faiyez]

You'll probably be kicking yourself soon if you build am4 now that AM5 costs are lower across the board.

[Kobs]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Faiyez:

You'll probably be kicking yourself soon if you build am4 now that AM5 costs are lower across the board.

That i agree with but I wasn't about to change a perfectly good platform that has a substantial value just for modernization sake which is why I upgraded instead of switching
Still don't agree with the "budget" side of it

[Faiyez]

I didn't say "budget", the costs are down enough that makes it a worthwhile investment that will probably pay off in the future.

[Agent]

AM5 unless there's a big enough price difference to justify investing in a now dead platform.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

No point really building new AM4 rig unless you are doing something small budget below $1000.