OLED vs IPS - difference

[KrzysiuM]

Iam already using 4K monitor on ips with 144hz. Will there be a huge difference between 4K ips display vs oled one? Or should i wait for something better like newer versions of OLED Panel?

[Meatflaps]

You can't directly compare IPS LCD's with OLED's. They are completely different display technologies that don't even function the same way.

The biggest difference though is the blacks. OLED screens are the only screen that exists that actually has "True Black" because when black is displayed on an OLED screen the pixels are literally off and not even illuminated. All other display types have a backlight and will illuminate areas of the screen used to try to show blacks, causing light bleed and other issues. No other screen other than OLED actually has "True Black".

[_I_]

dead pixels were very common on the first maybe 5 years of lcd displays
most around 1280x1024 res needed 3-5 and some near center before you could rma them

yellowing after a few years if they were cfl back lit
by the time led back lit lcd panels were around, dead pixels were no longer a worry

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Цитата допису KrzysiuM:

Iam already using 4K monitor on ips with 144hz. Will there be a huge difference between 4K ips display vs oled one? Or should i wait for something better like newer versions of OLED Panel?

Hi.

I have a 27 inch 4k 144hz IPS from MSI and a 42 inch LG C3 OLED
(you can see them on my profile)

Pros and cons.

Oled has better blacks. Better HDR and just more immersive.

Cons. The large screen oled needs a bigger desk and you might find it harder to pvp due to bigger screen to watch.

For movies and single player games, OLED every damn time, look no further,

For multiplayer games and if you intend to use the web four 8 hours + a day, I'd suggest the smaller IPS monitor.

I have roughly 4k hours on my LG c3 in one year use with zero burn in. I love it, But I also love my MSI 27inch 4k ips.

If you decide for a smaller oled, DO NOT BUY MATTE OLED. It's like buying trail mix and pulling all the nuts out, or buying a Lambo and hiding it in your garage.

Matte finish ruins the oled experience.


I currently have in my possession a 42 inch oled 120hz, 4k 144hz fast ips, 1440p 165hz 24 inch, 24 inch 240hz hz va, and have used everything from tn to oled from 1080p to 4k to 3440x1440.

I have an addiction to buying monitors.


Anybody telling you oled burn in is an online Parrot and never used an OLED from 2022 to current.

I have had the LG c2 and LGc3. No burn in on either.

[jeffpmaxs6]

Цитата допису Man Cave Mike:

Цитата допису KrzysiuM:

Iam already using 4K monitor on ips with 144hz. Will there be a huge difference between 4K ips display vs oled one? Or should i wait for something better like newer versions of OLED Panel?

Hi.

I have a 27 inch 4k 144hz IPS from MSI and a 42 inch LG C3 OLED
(you can see them on my profile)

Pros and cons.

Oled has better blacks. Better HDR and just more immersive.

Cons. The large screen oled needs a bigger desk and you might find it harder to pvp due to bigger screen to watch.

For movies and single player games, OLED every damn time, look no further,

For multiplayer games and if you intend to use the web four 8 hours + a day, I'd suggest the smaller IPS monitor.

I have roughly 4k hours on my LG c3 in one year use with zero burn in. I love it, But I also love my MSI 27inch 4k ips.

If you decide for a smaller oled, DO NOT BUY MATTE OLED. It's like buying trail mix and pulling all the nuts out, or buying a Lambo and hiding it in your garage.

Matte finish ruins the oled experience.


I currently have in my possession a 42 inch oled 120hz, 4k 144hz fast ips, 1440p 165hz 24 inch, 24 inch 240hz hz va, and have used everything from tn to oled from 1080p to 4k to 3440x1440.

I have an addiction to buying monitors.


Anybody telling you oled burn in is an online Parrot and never used an OLED from 2022 to current.

I have had the LG c2 and LGc3. No burn in on either.

A bigger screen and high res does make multiplier harder, but pro tip, you can also lower the res and fov.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

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Цитата допису Man Cave Mike:

Hi.

I have a 27 inch 4k 144hz IPS from MSI and a 42 inch LG C3 OLED
(you can see them on my profile)

Pros and cons.

Oled has better blacks. Better HDR and just more immersive.

Cons. The large screen oled needs a bigger desk and you might find it harder to pvp due to bigger screen to watch.

For movies and single player games, OLED every damn time, look no further,

For multiplayer games and if you intend to use the web four 8 hours + a day, I'd suggest the smaller IPS monitor.

I have roughly 4k hours on my LG c3 in one year use with zero burn in. I love it, But I also love my MSI 27inch 4k ips.

If you decide for a smaller oled, DO NOT BUY MATTE OLED. It's like buying trail mix and pulling all the nuts out, or buying a Lambo and hiding it in your garage.

Matte finish ruins the oled experience.


I currently have in my possession a 42 inch oled 120hz, 4k 144hz fast ips, 1440p 165hz 24 inch, 24 inch 240hz hz va, and have used everything from tn to oled from 1080p to 4k to 3440x1440.

I have an addiction to buying monitors.


Anybody telling you oled burn in is an online Parrot and never used an OLED from 2022 to current.

I have had the LG c2 and LGc3. No burn in on either.

A bigger screen and high res does make multiplier harder, but pro tip, you can also lower the res and fov.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFVmToK4ZcY&lc=UgxGRj5qFveA2pjnZLR4AaABAg


That is my setup.

I dont see the point of going lower res, you buy a big 4k oled for the big 4k glory lol.

I just use the smaller 4k or if im being thristy, Ill turn the 24 inch 1440p landscape and use it.

But I dont pvp as much, I just need to buy a bigger house to use more monitors lol


But you are not wrong. having 4 1080p windows open on a big 4k monitor is really nice.

[jeffpmaxs6]

Цитата допису Man Cave Mike:

Цитата допису jeffpmaxs6:

A bigger screen and high res does make multiplier harder, but pro tip, you can also lower the res and fov.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFVmToK4ZcY&lc=UgxGRj5qFveA2pjnZLR4AaABAg


That is my setup.

I dont see the point of going lower res, you buy a big 4k oled for the big 4k glory lol.

I just use the smaller 4k or if im being thristy, Ill turn the 24 inch 1440p landscape and use it.

But I dont pvp as much, I just need to buy a bigger house to use more monitors lol


But you are not wrong. having 4 1080p windows open on a big 4k monitor is really nice.

I guess you do like monitors. Lol. You could put a 4x8 piece of plywood on that table to make it bigger. ; )
Thing is you don’t use the 40” for online or 4k on your 24” when you're thirsty. I have a 35” oled and stop using my 24” isp altogether. I rather lower the res on my 35” oled to be more competitive, because it still looks better then my 24” isp.

[Pocahawtness]

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Цитата допису Rod:

Name one example? All users of the new oleds are happy and its fine.

*new less than one year of use, will not have any visible burn yet

I have an AWE3423DWF. I bought one of the first that was made. It's two years old now and gets very heavy use. It has a year left on the warranty, and there is no sign of burn-in yet.

I do take "sensible" care of the monitor. Things like changing the wallpaper every ten minutes, avoiding overly bright wallpaper, switching the screen off after ten minutes of AFK, things like that. But many of the games I play have static HUDS, and they haven't caused any problems.

There are downsides to OLED, but there are several areas they are just so much better than IPS. Contrast and speed are two important ones. And in HDR mode, playing something like Borderlands, the neon effects are just amazing. A standard IPS monitor looks drab by comparison.

Sure, they are expensive, but so is everything else to do with PC's these days.

[_I_]

display a pure white image, and see if there are any visible darker places
easiest way to see how much screen burn there is

the panel may be overdriving burned pixels to make them appear brighter tho
which hides burn, until they hit their limits

[Meatflaps]

Цитата допису _I_:

display a pure white image, and see if there are any visible darker places
easiest way to see how much screen burn there is

That's completely unrealistic and NOT something anyone should ever do on an OLED. It's actually a good way to prematurely burn out things that otherwise would never happen. If anyone has an OLED then do not leave it displaying a pure white image for a long length of time.

The proper way to test if an OLED has burn in is to just use it. If anything is there it will be noticeable always in all images. If you don't see it in normal usage then don't worry about it.

[_I_]

thats the easiest way to tell if there is visible screen burn on the entire panel

how is it unrealistic to not display an image?

[Pocahawtness]

Цитата допису _I_:

display a pure white image, and see if there are any visible darker places
easiest way to see how much screen burn there is

the panel may be overdriving burned pixels to make them appear brighter tho
which hides burn, until they hit their limits

Why would you go looking for something like that?

It's a bit like being a cyclops. Once you see your own death, it torments you.

[r.linder]

So you're basically saying that because you could likely be wrong about not seeing any burn-in and it would be disappointing, you shouldn't try to verify at all to be certain that your efforts to prevent it are working or not?

Hardware Unboxed did tests on at least one expensive OLED type display and found very minor burn-in within the first few months of use, IIRC their test methodology was based on what most users typically do, such as not changing the background extremely often, running typical workloads like browsing and word processing, not letting the screen turn itself off as often, etc.

So if you'r'e actually trying to take good care of it to prevent burn-in, chances are that there either won't be any of it or it'll be extremely minimal, whereas if you just treat it as you would any LCD screen, the chances are pretty high that there will be burn-in.

[_I_]

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Цитата допису _I_:

display a pure white image, and see if there are any visible darker places
easiest way to see how much screen burn there is

the panel may be overdriving burned pixels to make them appear brighter tho
which hides burn, until they hit their limits

Why would you go looking for something like that?

It's a bit like being a cyclops. Once you see your own death, it torments you.

so you are saying never stress test for problems, because you never want to know about the problems or instability

[jeffpmaxs6]

I have the AWE3423DWF too and looked at all white, no burn. I think I’ll go back to using my isp though when not gaming or watching movies. It comes with a 3 year warranty and I wonder if it could be extended after that or price drops. I knew the risk when I bought it and that hasn’t change. It was the icing on the cake and took my gaming experience to the next lvl. After the rebuild in some games I would only have more fps to show for it, but the new monitor brings new life to all games. Haters going to hate.

[Shaggin'Wagon]

Цитата допису _I_:

thats the easiest way to tell if there is visible screen burn on the entire panel

how is it unrealistic to not display an image?

It's unrealistic because under normal usage (either gaming or watching movies) you will almost never see an all-white image on the screen ever. I can't recall the last time I've ever seen that either in any game or any movie. Instead as I said: People should just use the screen normally and look for things how a screen is normally used.

Also OLED's do degrade brightness over time. It's an inharent part of the technology and it can't be avoided. Making an all-white image on the screen (even for a few seconds) is going to drive every pixel on the screen at 100% strength and prematurely wear them.

As a note for everyone else, like I said: Do not display an all-white image on an OLED screen on purpose. That's very destructive for no reason.