OLED vs IPS - difference

[KrzysiuM]

Iam already using 4K monitor on ips with 144hz. Will there be a huge difference between 4K ips display vs oled one? Or should i wait for something better like newer versions of OLED Panel?

[_I_]

or you are paying enough for them to warranty it anyway
but hey can deny warranty for any other damage to the display, including from shipping or cosmetic

[r.linder]

OLED is better in almost every way but it's extremely prone to burn-in so it takes a good quality panel with guards against burn-in to mostly avoid that issue

OLEDs can have burn in issues within a few months

[Dutchgamer1982]

a good ips looks colourreal (a picture of an real life imagine.. will be displayed in the EXACT correct colours..

this is why ips started as the screen for photography enthousiants and grafical editors..

the downsides of ips.. are
**it's low responce time (though modern screens have managed to lower that to 1ms.. it started out much higher.. and the bottom seems to be reaches as no below 1ms ips screens are released in years.

than there is the issue of a relative high number of dead pixels.
10-15 dead pixels on a standard 1440p screen is for most brands the norm.. and won't be enough to get you to return your brand new screen.. (usually the limit for return is like 20-25 dead pixels depending on the brand)

finally IPS does not have the most saturated colours (the colours are TRUE.. but saturation is the kind of "lolypop land" over the top popping colours.. that some prefer over realism..

enter Oled :
**it has a much better responcetime (0.1ms or faster...)

**it hardly has any dead pixels.. 5 or less.. it's a much more relatiable technology

**it has extreme saturation..

+oled feels more "3d" as it images displayed on oled feels like they have more dept to them.

the downsite is its colours are less real (oled is better to watch things on.,. not to edit on.. but for most gamers who do not edit photo's.. thats a non issue)

the other issue is ofcourse it's much steeper pricetag.. but that has recently coming down...

was an good 1440p ips screen in 2016 still 800 euro..
and oled pc screens non excistant..

in 2022 that had dropped to a 1440p ips screen for 300 euro..
and decent oled 4k 40-48inch screens started to enter the market at 5500 euro.

today that 1440p ips screen is still 250 euro.. showing the bottom of that market is about reached..
but decent oled screens 40-48inch 4k now cost only 1600-2200 euro which still is expensive.. but they are nearing what 27 inch ips screens used to cost in 2016...

[Dutchgamer1982]

so... for the average pc gamer.. who buys basicly a 2400 euro pc once every 4 years..

and will likely split that money 4 ways... as has been the norm for 30 years..

600 euro for monitor, keyboard, mouse
600 euro for gpu
600 euro for motherboard, cpu, ram
600 euro for case, psu, storage, cooling, other

for them 40+ inch 4k oled screens and the 4k gaming they bring is still out of reach...
but a nice 27 or 32inch oled 1440p screen.,. to replace the aging ips screen they got.. they might totally consider...

[ds]

i have an oled display and let me tell you, burn-ins are annoying in oled and if you're sensitive to frames, you'll see more screen tearing than on a va or tn panel specially at low fps.

there's a reason why offices don't use oleds on their workstations

[KrzysiuM]

and what about newest gen o qd oled? They have some thing to prevent the burning issue i guess...

[Rod]

r.linder の投稿を引用：

OLED is better in almost every way but it's extremely prone to burn-in so it takes a good quality panel with guards against burn-in to mostly avoid that issue

OLEDs can have burn in issues within a few months

Name one example? All users of the new oleds are happy and its fine.

[_I_]

Rod の投稿を引用：

r.linder の投稿を引用：

OLED is better in almost every way but it's extremely prone to burn-in so it takes a good quality panel with guards against burn-in to mostly avoid that issue

OLEDs can have burn in issues within a few months

Name one example? All users of the new oleds are happy and its fine.

*new less than one year of use, will not have any visible burn yet

[Rod]

_I_ の投稿を引用：

Rod の投稿を引用：

Name one example? All users of the new oleds are happy and its fine.

*new less than one year of use, will not have any visible burn yet

We never see any posts about it though? By now we should of seen AW3424DW users complain dont you think?

[jeffpmaxs6]

KrzysiuM の投稿を引用：

and what about newest gen o qd oled? They have some thing to prevent the burning issue i guess...

Yeah I think that is the case, plus some monitors have warranties up to 3 years. Games and movies look great. One look at qd oled is all it takes to be sold.

[BlueBangkok]

I've had the Corsair 27QHD240 for about 1.5 years now. Switched from a 1440p IPS. Here is my experience:

- Burn-in: tons of bullsh1t on the Internet, imho. I set taskbar to auto-hide and desktop wallpaper to rotate every hour the moment I got it. I didn't do anything else special. I've been using that PC for gaming most of the time anyways. There are zero burn-in problems. Pixel refresh process is completely automatic. The monitor will let you know when it wants to do it. Also, Corsair has 3 year burn-in warranty.

- Dead pixels: there have been none; neither at the beginning, nor now. Imho having ANY dead pixels on a monitor is absolutely unacceptable and I would not settle even for one.

- Picture quality: night and day difference to the IPS. I don't even need the two monitors side by side; OLED wins on its own. The self-lit nature of pixels is extremely different user experience. Every game, every movie looks much, much better on the OLED - and it doesn't matter which color space it is in. Both SDR and HDR look amazing. The Corsair W-OLED also has extremely good SDR implementation. It has perfect contrast and pretty much perfect colors. It's like having a CRT that doesn't burn your eyes.

- Refresh rate and adaptive sync: this is a bit of a mixed bag. As others said, OLEDs have a problem with flickering - but ONLY if VRR is enabled. As long as GSync / Freesync are disabled, the picture is absolutely stable. Also, it doesn't do it in all games; only some. Big advantage, however, is reaction time of pixel switching, which is basically instant. It's a perceivable difference if you put 240Hz OLED and 240Hz IPS side by side - the OLED has zero smudge and zero overshoot. That alone is a huge advantage. It's generally said that IPS needs to be at least at 360Hz to have comparable motion clarity to 240Hz OLED.

For me, the bottom line is clear. Unless you are on a budget - which I highly doubt if you already have a 4K/144Hz monitor - I would not buy an IPS monitor. Once you start noticing the terrible IPS glow, you can never go back to it.

[BlueBangkok]

ds の投稿を引用：

i have an oled display and let me tell you, burn-ins are annoying in oled and if you're sensitive to frames, you'll see more screen tearing than on a va or tn panel specially at low fps.

there's a reason why offices don't use oleds on their workstations

I don't know which OLED you have, but even without VRR, there is no more or less tearing compared to IPS. If anything, OLEDs have better motion clarity than IPS, so it's more tolerable, at least for me.

[Andrius227]

BlueBangkok の投稿を引用：

I've had the Corsair 27QHD240 for about 1.5 years now. Switched from a 1440p IPS. Here is my experience:

- Burn-in: tons of bullsh1t on the Internet, imho. I set taskbar to auto-hide and desktop wallpaper to rotate every hour the moment I got it.

But what if i dont want to hide the taskbar or change wallpapers? Such restrictions are unacceptable in my opinion. I imagine it would also prevent me from playing the same games for 10+ hours straight like i usually do because of static buttons and other things…

I want to upgrade from my ips but i also want a monitor that would last >5 years and could be used however I want.

Oleds literally require screen savers like its the 90s or something…

[_I_]

Rod の投稿を引用：

_I_ の投稿を引用：

*new less than one year of use, will not have any visible burn yet

We never see any posts about it though? By now we should of seen AW3424DW users complain dont you think?

r.linder is still temp banned, will be lifted soon

[6:27 AM の投稿を引用：

r.linder,]
tell rod that there are different versions of OLEDs that are made to avoid burn in (but cost more) and that there's even videos up by Hardware Unboxed that documents OLED burn in over time

there are only a few panel mfgs for oled, samsung and lg are the main ones
iv seen samsung tv/monitors with lg, and lg with samsung panels
they buy from whoever make the cheapest or most appropriate panel for the display

as for now, burn will happen, there are ways to slow it, but not stop it
turn off the display when the pc is not being used, hide desktop icons, change background frequently, image/pixel shift can help burn more evenly, dont display static images as often as possible

i doubt oled monitor the testers run static image for months straight to compare how the panels burn

[BlueBangkok]

Andrius227 の投稿を引用：

BlueBangkok の投稿を引用：

I've had the Corsair 27QHD240 for about 1.5 years now. Switched from a 1440p IPS. Here is my experience:

- Burn-in: tons of bullsh1t on the Internet, imho. I set taskbar to auto-hide and desktop wallpaper to rotate every hour the moment I got it.

But what if i dont want to hide the taskbar or change wallpapers? Such restrictions are unacceptable in my opinion. I imagine it would also prevent me from playing the same games for 10+ hours straight like i usually do because of static buttons and other things…

I want to upgrade from my ips but i also want a monitor that would last >5 years and could be used however I want.

Oleds literally require screen savers like its the 90s or something…

No, they don't. OLED panel is not being worn out when it's off. So it's best to just set automatic turn off time to something like 5 minutes of inactivity.
I've actually come to like the rotating wallpapers since it's nice to have a fresh desktop once in a while. I believe that even if I didn't do it, not much would have happened.

Some basic precautions are completely acceptable to me. Definitely more acceptable than the hideous IPS glow and dead pixels. And about the static elements in a game - I played ~300 hours of Europa Universalis IV on the thing (that game has almost 1/3 of the screen area static UI) - nothing.

I am not saying that there is no burn in. What I am saying that from my personal experience so far, the burn in damage seems like an inflated bubble, seems like the same worry people had when SSDs were a new thing - who ever experienced an SSD fail due to normal usage? That's right. No one.