Encrypted ZFS Ubuntu+KDE
Will sudo touch /forcefsck break anything?
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Nevermind. It seems okay.

Now trying to get the Steam frontend to scale. The text is painfully tiny.

Also, the "EN" language input icon on the system tray keeps coming back after hiding it. This was never an issue on the Steam Deck.
Brave.

Every time the thought of using ZFS crosses my mind I take a glance at its bug tracker and reconsider.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zygfryd:
Brave.

Every time the thought of using ZFS crosses my mind I take a glance at its bug tracker and reconsider.


That says a lot about how little you know about computers.

Everything gets patches/updates and thats fine. Would you rather it stagnate and receive nothing? Would that make you feel safer?

ZFS is used by corporations on production machines/drive arrays, you don't think it could handle a gaming rig?
Obviously I'm backing up my /home folder

And learning to use zpool
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Electric Cupcake; 19 เม.ย. 2024 @ 7: 37pm
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Electric Cupcake:
Obviously I'm backing up my /home folder

And learning to use zpool

I wouldn't bother with that other guy. He has no idea what he is talking about.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The_Abortionator:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zygfryd:
Brave.

Every time the thought of using ZFS crosses my mind I take a glance at its bug tracker and reconsider.


That says a lot about how little you know about computers.

Everything gets patches/updates and thats fine. Would you rather it stagnate and receive nothing? Would that make you feel safer?

ZFS is used by corporations on production machines/drive arrays, you don't think it could handle a gaming rig?
Heh. I meant open bugs, not past patches that worry me. I don't wish the project ill, just not going to beta test it with my data. I don't have terabytes of tapes to archive everything in multiple copies going years back in case something gets silently corrupted. There was even a high profile bug of this variety making the rounds on news channels back in November.

I'm staying with LVM for managing volumes and in-kernel filesystems for the time being. My home folder is protected by RAID1 with `dm-integrity`, and a local backup on top, and a remote backup from time to time in case the house burns down.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zygfryd:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The_Abortionator:


That says a lot about how little you know about computers.

Everything gets patches/updates and thats fine. Would you rather it stagnate and receive nothing? Would that make you feel safer?

ZFS is used by corporations on production machines/drive arrays, you don't think it could handle a gaming rig?
Heh. I meant open bugs, not past patches that worry me. I don't wish the project ill, just not going to beta test it with my data. I don't have terabytes of tapes to archive everything in multiple copies going years back in case something gets silently corrupted. There was even a high profile bug of this variety making the rounds on news channels back in November.

I'm staying with LVM for managing volumes and in-kernel filesystems for the time being. My home folder is protected by RAID1 with `dm-integrity`, and a local backup on top, and a remote backup from time to time in case the house burns down.


Again, making it clear you don't know much about computers.

You claim you don't want want to "beta test" ZFS? Its a file system older than you are.

Its been in commercial use since 2005 and is one of the most used file systems in the world with a fantastic and well earned reputation.

Yes, there was a bug but unfortunately you lack even the most BASIC of tech literacy to understand the bug, what it does, and how it works.

This isn't like when MS spit out an update that corrupted bitlocker drives, or their update that wiped user folders, or the update that deleted the documents folder, or the update that turned people accounts into temp profiles deleting their data on login/logoff, or any of the other data deleting/BSOD causing/bootloader killing bugs they pushed out multiple times a year every year since win10's release.

No, unlike any one of those this bug is so insanely hard to trigger that its been there since at least 2006 and hasn't gotten almost ANYBODY in that time and it straight up doesn't go unnoticed. People only noticed when a utils update was done which did little more than shed light on it.

Yes bugs suck, especially potentially destructive ones but no software is or will ever be perfect.

That said, the bug REQUIRES such a specific set of events to take place within a few CPU clock cycles that its next to impossible to trigger even in a work load that might do so and there is almost NO real world workloads that even could trigger it in the first place.

Infact, you as a non tech savvy amateur layman home user do not even have a work load that would trigger it period.

If you think ZFS isn't safe to use but you have ANY data on NTFS then you're a clown. Simple as that.
Amusingly incorrect assumptions about my person aside, I'd probably have hit that particular bug, since building Go on Gentoo was a very good reproducer, but it's unlikely it'd have lost me any important data.

ZFS is over 20 years old, but OpenZFS is very actively being developed, and as a person unfamiliar with what parts of it are stable and what parts are relatively new, you might as well be a beta tester.

I'm sure it's much easier to vet ZFS when you've been successfully using it for a while, just like it's much easier for me to vet EXT4 or XFS, which haven't lost me any data. (Well, XFS did, but that was very long ago.) My personal risk assessment of ZFS includes multitudes of outstanding bugs involving freezes or kernel panics, and diving deep enough into it to ensure they don't affect me just isn't in my schedule, just like dealing with aforementioned freezes or panics.

NTFS just holds my games and savegames, I hope that's OK with you.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zygfryd:
Amusingly incorrect assumptions about my person aside, I'd probably have hit that particular bug, since building Go on Gentoo was a very good reproducer, but it's unlikely it'd have lost me any important data.

ZFS is over 20 years old, but OpenZFS is very actively being developed, and as a person unfamiliar with what parts of it are stable and what parts are relatively new, you might as well be a beta tester.

I'm sure it's much easier to vet ZFS when you've been successfully using it for a while, just like it's much easier for me to vet EXT4 or XFS, which haven't lost me any data. (Well, XFS did, but that was very long ago.) My personal risk assessment of ZFS includes multitudes of outstanding bugs involving freezes or kernel panics, and diving deep enough into it to ensure they don't affect me just isn't in my schedule, just like dealing with aforementioned freezes or panics.

NTFS just holds my games and savegames, I hope that's OK with you.


So you'r response is made up junk and gibberish?

Lol, k kid.
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