A open letter to AMD scouts and why your company is shooting themselves in the foot.

[Win2000Fan]

I am going to stay very nice with this but feel this needs to be said. I am a huge fan of AMD Radeon video cards. The last two cards I have owned ( RX580 and my newest RX6750XT) are high quality, impressive well built cards. I had just sent back to Amazon an ndivia 3060. Out of the box I could not believe how cheap that 3060 looked. I can not believe I spent over three hundred dollars for that cheap mess. Within two days the fans started to scream and that was it. I pulled the card and sent it back and reinstalled my ninety dollar RX580 and life was good. Both of my Radeon video cards are stable and always satisfied my needs. I paid only ninety dollars for my RX 580 at Amazon and it did its job. In fact it did its job so well that I bought myself my new RX6750XT to replace the 580 and I love it.

So why the beef, you may ask? The drivers. Yep we have all herd this before, I know but it hasn't changed after all these years. The difference today is not the drivers themselves as they are very good drivers. The problem AMD is removing these drivers. Your own uninstall program will not remove them. Huh? What? Now just image one of these young gamers, you know the ones, the ones that needs their hands held. I can just see one of them getting mad yanking the new Radeon video card out of there computer, sending it back to Amazon and NEVER going back to Radeon. You have done it to yourselves AMD. This is one of those old reasons why you are at the bottom five percent of the video card market.

This love letter would be way to long for me to go into what I had to do to get all the elements of the old diver out before I could install the new drivers again for my new video card. This also effected my Ryzen Master software and caused problems there as well. I am a fan and that is the reason the RX6750XT is still in my computer and I will not go back but there a lot of people who would.

[Win2000Fan]

Цитата допису smallcat:

Radeons are cheap most likely because they re made of cheap parts . Hence should be more susceptible to failure . You were just unlucky with your other shot . Why not replacing it
!? You just wanted to cost you less . Dont draw conclusions from a single case .

Have cool gaming .

You mean well with your answer but it was the 3060 video card I wrote about that was cheap. I knew the minute I took that 3060 out of the box it was made with cheap parts and the reason the fans started screaming in a few days. My ninety dollar RX580 was made much better and still runs today. As I said in my thread it was the Radeon drivers that I have issues with not card quality. Believe me this is no single case.

[Tonepoet]

Цитата допису smallcat:

I ve never had Radeon card and no failure so far .

Didn't you just say not to draw conclusions from just a single case? Drawing conclusions from a single case is more better than drawing conclusions from zero cases.

[Crawl]

You are comparing what was a higher end card a few generations ago to a low end card. Obviously lower end cards tend to be build cheaper because there is less of a margin on them. Compare that RX580 to a 3080 or 4080.

In their earning call AMD said they had 48% decline year over year in gaming. While that isn't all GPU sales (it includes their custom SoCs and such) that's a kick in the sack for AMD and proves that just being a "value" brand isn't good enough. AMD needs to pull off some engineering miracles and get on Nvidias level rather than sitting out the high end because they can't compete. If Intels next gen cards live up to the rumors AMD is really going to be in a tough spot. Drivers will be the least of their worries.

[DonMcK]

I believe this is about old drivers not being fully removed and causing problems when new drivers are installed. This is not a problem unique to AMD, nor is it unique to display drivers, with NVidia even a 'clean' install leaves a load of rubbish behind.

That is why DDU was developed, by an NVidia user, to try and simplify the task of cleaning out the old stuff for AMD and NVidia, the background story and the app can be found here: https://www.wagnardsoft.com

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Yeah you need to DDU the hell out of it when swapping drivers with AMD. With Nvidia you can usually just install over the old ones with clean install option and rarely have any problems.

[skOsH♥]

If someone's first inclination with a gpu issue is to Dumbledore-said-calmly pull it out of their pc and ship it back, then that person is not cut out for pc gaming, nor should they attempt the hobby if they don't know what they're doing.

Otherwise they'll just do this with everything in regards to parts.

[Carlsberg]

Don't see the point of an open post to amd on steam forum, they're never going to read it and they do have a feedback option on there site i'm sure.

If its just a rant to complain about your driver experience well,... thats a waste of time too.

[_I_]

post it on amd forums

[Mr White]

All electronics are prone to fail at some stage. You were unlucky with the 3060 maybe a batch were faulty. And you got one like others. However others work.

Another example XBOX 360 while 30 people had red ring. Many other user had never a problem.

[Win2000Fan]

Цитата допису Carlsberg:

Don't see the point of an open post to amd on steam forum, they're never going to read it and they do have a feedback option on there site i'm sure.

If its just a rant to complain about your driver experience well,... thats a waste of time too.

Don't think for a second that AMD does not have scouts out there nosing around to read what we are saying about them. Steam is more than likely the biggest gaming site in the world. Besides I know if I were in the computing business I would and give the scout instructions to only read whats being said and never respond.

[Win2000Fan]

Цитата допису Lion:

All electronics are prone to fail at some stage. You were unlucky with the 3060 maybe a batch were faulty. And you got one like others. However others work.

Another example XBOX 360 while 30 people had red ring. Many other user had never a problem.

There's unlucky and there's cheap. The fans on the 3060 looked like fans from the dollar store and the looks did not lie as they were squealing after about day two. Both my AMD video cards have a look of quality about them and have been great performers. Like I said my issue was with the drivers and the hoops I had to jump through to get every bit of the old driver out of my computer.

[The_Abortionator]

Цитата допису smallcat:

Radeons are cheap most likely because they re made of cheap parts . Hence should be more susceptible to failure . You were just unlucky with your other shot . Why not replacing it
!? You just wanted to cost you less . Dont draw conclusions from a single case .

Have cool gaming .

What a crazy incoherent rant...

[The_Abortionator]

Цитата допису Crawl:

You are comparing what was a higher end card a few generations ago to a low end card. Obviously lower end cards tend to be build cheaper because there is less of a margin on them. Compare that RX580 to a 3080 or 4080.

In their earning call AMD said they had 48% decline year over year in gaming. While that isn't all GPU sales (it includes their custom SoCs and such) that's a kick in the sack for AMD and proves that just being a "value" brand isn't good enough. AMD needs to pull off some engineering miracles and get on Nvidias level rather than sitting out the high end because they can't compete. If Intels next gen cards live up to the rumors AMD is really going to be in a tough spot. Drivers will be the least of their worries.

Bro, you realize thats everything including CPUs, consoles, etc right?

New GPUs and CPUs on the horizon mean people aren't going to buy new sh!t just before newer sh!t hits the shelves. That and a general decline in consoles aswell.

You have to be drugged out to draw a "AMD failed at GPUs" conclusion from that.

[The_Abortionator]

Цитата допису Lion:

All electronics are prone to fail at some stage. You were unlucky with the 3060 maybe a batch were faulty. And you got one like others. However others work.

Another example XBOX 360 while 30 people had red ring. Many other user had never a problem.

sorry what? You are trying to say its not a high failure rate but then compare it to the 360 RRD?

Dude, the original XBOX 360 hardware version had a 68% failure rate. Literally NOT the comparison you want to make.

[Viking2121]

Idk, I don't have a problem with either, Got a 3090ti atm, also got a 6800xt in my server handling transcoding work, might even go intel GPU soon on it, their cheap. Got a 1050 2gb in another rig. If I was to buy a brand spanking new GPU, It'd be AMD, I have not had many issue with their drivers and honestly, my 6800xt with little tweaking gets pretty close to my 3090ti at less than half the power draw, its crazy.