14900K - bios update

[das3erawsdas]

Hi.
I have 14900K stock with NZXT kraken elite 360, 2x16GB DDR5 6800,rtx 4090,Seasonic Px 1600,SSD 2TB,Aorus Z790 Elite X.

I dont have updated bios. But on latest bios i see this line::"

https://wccftech.com/gigabyte-baseline-gaming-stability-bios-option-turns-intel-14th-13th-gen-core-i9-cpus-into-core-i7-multi-thread-gaming-performance-loss/


"Intel Baseline" BIOS option. How much % performance i can loose when i use this? Iit will be visible loss?

So.
Today i was downloaded Remnant 2. And i cant play. Before main menu it will pop up OUT OF VIDEO MEMORY . Then again next launch start new game and again the same crash. Ok finally when i started new game,after 5 minutes crash to desktop. Again and 10 minutes next crash.
Its only one game giving me this issues.

[das3erawsdas]

You will experience game crashes when loading shaders. Typically at first boot of game or after a cutscene when you have to press a button to load into the grabbed main menu.

[das3erawsdas]

Someone said :'Basically, it sets ridiculously high voltages that are likely to cause damage"

When i ask about INTEL BASE PROFILE. So dont use it?

[_I_]

that should not be an option

just update bios, it fixes problems you are having

it lowers the oc the board was applying since it was not stable cpus similar to yours

[das3erawsdas]

Oprindeligt skrevet af _I_:

that should not be an option

just update bios, it fixes problems you are having

it lowers the oc the board was applying since it was not stable cpus similar to yours

Can you check for me?
This is my board:
https://www.gigabyte.pl/products/page/mb/Z790-AORUS-ELITE-X-WIFI7-10/support#support-dl

My board is rev 1.0

[_I_]

bios updates
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-AORUS-ELITE-X-WIFI7/support#support-dl-bios

in description, it links to
https://www.gigabyte.com/Press/News/2156

[das3erawsdas]

Oki thx. So just update bios and check ? F6g bios?

[das3erawsdas]

Someone said this.

I strongly recommend this guide:"



https://wccftech.com/asus-intel-baseline-profile-option-bios-mitigate-14th-13th-gen-cpu-gaming-stability-issues/



This has solved my problems with Unreal Engine games!



BUT:

14900KS SP111 / Asus Z790 Apex (white) / Bios 2002



CB23: 41.628 points

CB23: 31.462 points (according to Intel defaults)



10.000 points performance loss!







But one option brought the performance back:



I have now only set the bios feature "IA CEP" to disabled and all other settings as in the guide

and thus reach 41,297 points!



Here are more informations about this "IA CEP" feature:



https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/technologies-explained/rog-unveils-beta-bios-for-14th-gen-non-k-processors-to-enhance/ba-p/996643



I would first recommend these settings as in the guide if it runs stable then you can deactivate IA CEP.



Games like Horizon Dawn run with this guide according to Intel specifications just as fast as before "unlocked".



Edit:

I have to select "Intel's Fail Safe" instead of AUTO for SVID Behavior in the bios,

RoboCop: Rogue City will also run! (with AUTO game crashes)."























So what now? Update bios first and what then ? Update bios enable INTEL BASE line profile, and then disable CEP ? I have Gigabyte A790 Aorus Elite X Wifi7, board

[Angry Gandalf]

Lol, OP is still out there and trolling the community.
Most people here are already familiar with him. A look on his comment history tells you more than I ever could.
He does that all the time. As soon as a new CPU gen or GPU gen gets released, you'll find @das3erawsdas on the Steam sub, with his ridiculous questions and his total inability to understand how PC-hardware works.

Most of the users here have him on ignore, so I suggest to move on and just ignore him. It's always the same with him. 2080 and i9 7900, 3090 and i9 13900k, i9 14900k and 4090, and so on. he doesn't even own the hardware and uses screenshots from other users on hardware boards.

edit: He even uses the same issue over multiple years......WOW

[Guydodge]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Angry Gandalf:

Lol, OP is still out there and trolling the community.
Most people here are already familiar with him. A look on his comment history tells you more than I ever could.
He does that all the time. As soon as a new CPU gen or GPU gen gets released, you'll find @das3erawsdas on the Steam sub, with his ridiculous questions and his total inability to understand how PC-hardware works.

Most of the users here have him on ignore, so I suggest to move on and just ignore him. It's always the same with him. 2080 and i9 7900, 3090 and i9 13900k, i9 14900k and 4090, and so on. he doesn't even own the hardware and uses screenshoots from other users on hardware boards.

edit: He even uses the same issue over multiple years......WOW

[Illusion of Progress]

I feel a little bad for the thread starter.

I remember they used to make a lot of posts about every little issue they ever had. And almost every time, it would either be a one off or something small, and the community would (rightfully) tell them not to make a big deal out of it until it shows itself to be a bigger issue or a consistent issue.

I remember one of these issues was a message about running out of VRAM. OP had just gotten the 13900K or 14900K and had an RTX 4090. And here we are, months and months and months later and the issue is discovered to have been unstable/degrading CPUs.

Anyway, as has been said, update your BIOS and use the Intel defined limits, It doesn't matter if you lose performance because the higher performance you had before was known to come from it operating in a way that made it unstable or degrade over time. You don't have a choice unless you want to run it in an unstable state or risk degrading it.

If you still have issues, try underclocking. Lower the p-core ratio in steps of 1 until you get down to 52 or 51 and see if it ever stabilizes. If it does, your CPU has degraded and is no longer stable at stock and it's time to try and RMA it.

That's your solution.

[das3erawsdas]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Illusion of Progress:

I feel a little bad for the thread starter.

I remember they used to make a lot of posts about every little issue they ever had. And almost every time, it would either be a one off or something small, and the community would (rightfully) tell them not to make a big deal out of it until it shows itself to be a bigger issue or a consistent issue.

I remember one of these issues was a message about running out of VRAM. OP had just gotten the 13900K or 14900K and had an RTX 4090. And here we are, months and months and months later and the issue is discovered to have been unstable/degrading CPUs.

Anyway, as has been said, update your BIOS and use the Intel defined limits, It doesn't matter if you lose performance because the higher performance you had before was known to come from it operating in a way that made it unstable or degrade over time. You don't have a choice unless you want to run it in an unstable state or risk degrading it.

If you still have issues, try underclocking. Lower the p-core ratio in steps of 1 until you get down to 52 or 51 and see if it ever stabilizes. If it does, your CPU has degraded and is no longer stable at stock and it's time to try and RMA it.

That's your solution.

oki thx

[skOsH♥]

I mean, I think the autoverclock I have going is probably too much, going to dial it back with voltage and bclk speed

Intel chips run hot and it's because they're overclocked and not built to run at their default clock speeds

Amd chips too, sometimes.

[das3erawsdas]

Oprindeligt skrevet af d¢:

I mean, I think the autoverclock I have going is probably too much, going to dial it back with voltage and bclk speed

Intel chips run hot and it's because they're overclocked and not built to run at their default clock speeds

Amd chips too, sometimes.

oki doki thx i will update bios

[The_Abortionator]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Komarimaru:

You'll lose no performance, since will quit crashing. The Bios is needed to fix the massive overclock for chips not designed for it. You've not been running stock.

Except they have.

Intel confirmed these settings were in spec and hardware unboxed and others have already called intel out on this.

[_I_]

probably on some boards that could not deliver the power needed for the higher power cpus

if the board can deliver power needed, and the cpu has good cooling it should not change performance at all