Spynion Mar 30, 2024 @ 3:29pm
CPU slows down too much to play anything when unplugged
:csgostar:I play on laptop when I'm away, and sometimes I have to use it unplugged, but the perfomance goes from my display's refresh rate to max 30 fps in games like drg or cs2, which is just impossible to play in a fps.
:csgostar:I think it is a CPU issue because I tried the nvidia control panel setting that allows me to use my GPU when unplugged and nothing changed.
:csgostar:I tried setting everything in power settings on high performance, or at least match the settings when it's plugged, nothing changed.
:csgostar:I tried going into the BIOS and search for a setting related to performance on battery power, but I didn't find anything. Maybe that is because this is an asus laptop, and to be honest, the BIOS has max 30 settings overall and half are questionable features.
I could understand if I tried overclocking my CPU, because that is CPU specific nowadays, but I'm just trying to disable this awful battery saving feature that does nothing. My battery is done anyway because I keep the laptop plugged most of the time, at least I want to savour those 30 mins by actually having a nice experience than have the console experience on lowest settings for an hour or so.
Originally posted by Pepe:
You might be limited by the amount of power drawn by the system in battery mode. I guess you need a way to make your CPU suck less power (it's a huge CPU at 45W TDP, there should be a way to set it down to 35W TDP - as shown in intel specs), so that the remaining power would go to your GPU. It's the GPU that gives you more FPS than the CPU. I don't know what UEFI/BIOS settings you have available, but look for anything like:
- CPU TDP - set it lower if possible;
- CPU - Hyperthreading - disable it;
- CPU - Max Turbo Frequency or P2 state - dumb it down under the default 4.5 GHz - I think you need consistent power draw rather than spikes and throttling, try different values: 4, 3.5, 3. With that pretty new 6 core CPU, the games should be fine even at lower CPU frequency;
- disable the iGPU if it's not disabled by default; even if it's not your primary graphics, that might steal a few Watts of power for no reason; having both GPUs running could also enable nvidia hybrid/optimus feature in some form when running under battery.
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Spynion Mar 30, 2024 @ 3:34pm 
The laptop is an Asus tuf gaming fx505gt, if this helps. It might just be locked down by Asus, but if anyone got a wayit would be much appreciated
Spynion Mar 30, 2024 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by smallcat:
In Windows power plans , you should select max processor state 100% .
Already did
Battery boost limits your fps to 30 when on battery. You can turn it off in GeForce experience.
Spynion Mar 31, 2024 @ 3:59am 
Originally posted by WOKEISM (banned 14 times):
Battery boost limits your fps to 30 when on battery. You can turn it off in GeForce experience.
Turned it off, still no change.
Spynion Mar 31, 2024 @ 4:07am 
Also, it is not OS related, it does the same thing on 3 different linux distros
A&A Mar 31, 2024 @ 5:22am 
Are you sure the games are running on the GTX1650 and not the intel integrated graphics?

The other thing I speculate is that there is a power limit or something else in the BIOS or whatever it is that makes the laptop cap the fps to 30. Overclocking will not help in this case.
Last edited by A&A; Mar 31, 2024 @ 5:27am
Spynion Mar 31, 2024 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by A&A:
Are you sure the games are running on the GTX1650 and not the intel integrated graphics?

The other thing I speculate is that there is a power limit or something else in the BIOS or whatever it is that makes the laptop cap the fps to 30. Overclocking will not help in this case.

I wouldn't get over 60 fps in drg or cs2 if I were running on intel's gpu, and I went into nvidia control panel to make sure I enabled the nvidia gpu regardless if I'm plugged in or not.
nullable Mar 31, 2024 @ 6:59am 
Having your laptop plugged in all the time doesn't hurt the battery. The battery won't be harmed by trying to run the laptop on full power. But even a brand new battery at 100% charge is only going to last 30 minutes under that high of a load.

But it seems like you're determined to do this. You're really trying to do a backwards thing compared to most laptop users so there's bound to be some hoops to set it up to drain the battery as fast as possible.
Spynion Mar 31, 2024 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by A&A:
Are you sure the games are running on the GTX1650 and not the intel integrated graphics?

The other thing I speculate is that there is a power limit or something else in the BIOS or whatever it is that makes the laptop cap the fps to 30. Overclocking will not help in this case.

Went into intel graphics command and turned off any power saving feature, still the same performance.
Went into nvidia control panel, changed to nvidia as default gpu, and turned off any power saving feature, still the same performance.
Spynion Mar 31, 2024 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by nullable:
Having your laptop plugged in all the time doesn't hurt the battery. The battery won't be harmed by trying to run the laptop on full power. But even a brand new battery at 100% charge is only going to last 30 minutes under that high of a load.

But it seems like you're determined to do this. You're really trying to do a backwards thing compared to most laptop users so there's bound to be some hoops to set it up to drain the battery as fast as possible.

I mean, the steam deck can run the same whether it is plugged or not, but a laptop can't? This is just bad design.
alexmaru Mar 31, 2024 @ 7:19am 
Battery could give you only around 100W (more powerful is not allowed in airplaines). If your processor + video card TPD is bigger, it means it can't work on battery on the full power.

Only AMD APUs and Macbooks can give you the same performance on battery.
Spynion Mar 31, 2024 @ 7:20am 
I think it might just be a design choice, now that I mention design.
The laptop is from 2020, so I guess when compared to the steamdeck, there is a reason for it to be designed this way.
Maybe the older laptops are designed to have stronger components, but with the inability to use them properly from battery, as it can't provide the right voltage, if anyone can check if this is a true, it would be much apreciated
Spynion Mar 31, 2024 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by alexmaru:
Battery could give you only around 100W (more powerful is not allowed in airplaines). If your processor + video card TPD is bigger, it means it can't work on battery on the full power.

Only AMD APUs and Macbooks can give you the same performance on battery.

Was watching a colleague the other day play league (looking fine graphically) and getting over 120 fps, on battery. Truth be told, he bought his laptop around 2023, and had around the same specs, maybe the cpu was one or two generations younger.
Last edited by Spynion; Mar 31, 2024 @ 7:32am
My laptop can only run demanding games when it's plugged in. When I'm on battery I can only play games like left 4 dead.

For example, if I want to play death stranding or the Witcher, I have to be tethered to a wall outlet or else I don't have enough performance. It's always been like this.
Spynion Mar 31, 2024 @ 9:01am 
Maybe the components i have seen that run well on battery use less power, maybe it just became more efficient in recent years, or maybe manufactures dont throttle the cpu and gpu as much on battery.
Anyway, I think the conclusion is that it is a design choice by the manufacture at firmware level, thus leaving this issue as unsolvable by simple/direct means.
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