What is the best way to install windows 11?
About 2 months ago i talked with one of my colleagues at the office about windows 11 and how to install it on pc that dont have the requirements. He told md that he installed it succesfuly on his parents pc that is from 2012 and also at the pc on the office and both of them work well with it. He then suggest me that instead of changing cpu ram and motjherboard it is better if i install it with Rufus or with the registry method and save some money and keep my current cpu ram and motherboard until they die.
I trust him because i know him for 6 years. But after i read here the 3 methods to do it https://www.xda-developers.com/install-windows-11-unsupported-pc/
i wonder which one is the best?
1 Rufus?
2 Command prompt
or registry?
Which one of the 3 will be best?
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I found it surprisingly easy even without any tools.
I just went into Safe Mode and renamed the app EXEs for Edge.
Rebooted and it was all good. Just that it killed the link for URL files but that wasn't a problem; just use Open With and select my other web browser; now the link is proper once again with working icons and such.

You can get rid of the watermark and unlock user customization via the Registry.
Ultima modifica da Bad 💀 Motha; 3 apr 2024, ore 20:18
i never had a reason to look into removing the "Watermark", cause i always had a key and anything i didnt wasnt necessarily used as a daily, but more as a testing environment, for stuff, along with downloading and scanning stuff, instead of doing that on my main pc.

in general, a safety net, that could be wiped, or locked in a state that boots back to when it was first installed, getting rid of everything you put on it.
Ultima modifica da MonkehMaster; 3 apr 2024, ore 20:25
Best advice I can give is do not format or updates computer operating system without a secondary computer accessable to trouble shoot or download needed driver's for hardware.

I remember years ago formating with only 1 computer reinstalling windows only to find out my driver's where not on the windows cd, and I had no network card drivers or even graphic drivers, I had to wait a day to a friend's house to download the drivers. Luckily that solution was available, today you might be able to use a smart phone but still recommended you have some time of online connection to help trouble shoot any possible reinstallation issues

In the past Rufus worked for me with a bootable USB stick make sure the bios is set to boot from USB before hardrive
well, aside from windows updates getting your drivers and getting your gpu driver from the manufacturer.

you can also use a program like driver booster and it will backup, find, update (set to ignore gpu driver before updating drivers), your drivers for you.

its been very helpful locating old or obscure drivers on old systems for me, currently and in the past.

if you need to boot from a specific drive, you can press which ever key needed (in most cases F8) to get to the advanced boot menu, then select the drive you want to boot from.

you can go the bios route, but its quicker with F8, just keep in mind, which drive you need to select.

not that its needed now a days, but also when installing, you can grab drivers beforehand and have them on your flash drive while installing the OS.

or as i mentioned in another comment, modify your OS iso with NTLite and remove what you want removed and add everything you need, saving you a ton of time, so you dont have to do any of that, after its installed.
Ultima modifica da MonkehMaster; 3 apr 2024, ore 21:10
If you have any type of tpm module and are doing a clean install, then you don't need anything, as even tpm 1.2 windows will accept. You just need to be secure boot capable.

For example, my fx-9590 with tpm 1.2 module doesn't need bypasses to install windows 11. It will proceed with the install and not bother me at all.

For all other computers that don't pass the Microsoft sniff test, I simply use command prompt and enter regedit from there and input my bypasses.
I use to manually edit the ISO, but with how easy it is hi do it with Rufus, that's how I do it now, works fine on my old q6600 system I use in my garage.
Messaggio originale di Viking2121:
I use to manually edit the ISO, but with how easy it is hi do it with Rufus, that's how I do it now, works fine on my old q6600 system I use in my garage.

ya, i use 1 (really old one that i put win 11 pro on) that i either bring to the garage or the basement, depending on where im working on stuff, that i way when i need to look up something, i dont have to constantly run to my desktop, or bother with a tiny cell phone screen.
Ultima modifica da MonkehMaster; 4 apr 2024, ore 2:45
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Messaggio originale di Viking2121:
I use to manually edit the ISO, but with how easy it is hi do it with Rufus, that's how I do it now, works fine on my old q6600 system I use in my garage.

ya, i use 1 (really old one that i put win 11 pro on) that i either bring to the garage or the basement, depending on where im working on stuff, that i way when i need to look up something, i dont have to constantly run to my desktop, or bother with a tiny cell phone screen.

Yup, I always work on small engines on my vehicles, If im dirty I wont have to worry about touching things in the house, or if im welding or grinding something, that dust can get everywhere, I don't care to much about that q6600 system if it dies from that, and it handles sub zero really well
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Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

ya, i use 1 (really old one that i put win 11 pro on) that i either bring to the garage or the basement, depending on where im working on stuff, that i way when i need to look up something, i dont have to constantly run to my desktop, or bother with a tiny cell phone screen.

Yup, I always work on small engines on my vehicles, If im dirty I wont have to worry about touching things in the house, or if im welding or grinding something, that dust can get everywhere, I don't care to much about that q6600 system if it dies from that, and it handles sub zero really well

yup, or wasting time running back and forth from pc to the work your doing, also while a phone is handy, the screen is very much to small to view stuff properly, when working on things that you need to see better.

yup, those old laptops, while brand new looking (in my case), i very much dont mind if they get messed up, as the convenience is more important, not to mention, i have a pile of them... likely around 40 or 50 (including many old desktops) :cqlol:

i used to get them free or buy them for dirt cheap, when people tossed them aside because it was "broken" according to them, or broken screens, thermal issues (like old paste), HDD broken and other various things, so they went and bought new ones, leaving these sitting in boxes, so i offered to take them off their hands.

i either fixed up, cleaned inside and out, then sold them for $100 each (desktops for more), needless to say, i never got to all of them cause i had way to many.
Ultima modifica da MonkehMaster; 4 apr 2024, ore 20:13
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Messaggio originale di SHREDDER:
Ok so hat i must do is
Downkoad rufus and install it
then download windows 11 and copoy to a usb.
and then open rufus and install windows 11 through Rufua?

You put the Windows 11 .iso on your computer's internal disk drive.

You run Rufus on your current installation of windows Rufus to write the .iso onto the thumb drive, so it can configure the drive as a bootable one while copying the data over. Rufus needs to copy data over from the iso.

It shall have a setup wizard with some options. You can choose to bypass tpm from there.

You install Windows like normal after Rufus is done with the thumb drive.


Messaggio originale di Azza ☠:
You shouldn't bypass the hardware requirements of Win 11.
Just stick with Win 10 instead or go for another Operating System.

The entire reason of Win 11 is mostly just to secure the boot stage. It's been exploited in the previous versions, which can allow rootkit malware infect your system before your anti-virus scanner can detect it. Win 11 adds a hardware isolation layer to that, yet needs that hardware to be able to do just that. Without it, you are merely back to Win 10's level of security anyways.

Keeping your Windows version up to date just to keep it up to date is wise, unless you specifically need the older version or Windows. It's plausible that some software developer with an overzealous fetish for O.S. level security and discontinuing support for older O.Ses. will drop WIndows 10 support for practically no reason, just like how chrome (and subsequently steam) dropped Windows 10 support for practically no reason.
WHAT do you mean that they droped 7 support for no reason? they stopped supporing 7 after mcirosoft supporting it. We have 1,5 years exactly left(1 year and 6 months)

. Whhen microsoft stops supporting the previous version of windows do you know what happens? NOT only all the future programs ns games will not worrk on it but also the programs and games you have already installed(including firefox, steam word excel e.t.c) will also stop wrorking the day that the windows 10 support stops(if your pc still have 10 then)
. Not only that but you cant connect to the internet and you get a message that says: ''your OS is not supported by the internet. Please upgrade to the latest version of windows to have access to the internet'' That why we must all upgrade to trhe latest windows. As for updates that colleague at the office told me that the pcs that he installed 11 receives the monthly updates with no problems.
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Messaggio originale di Tonepoet:

You put the Windows 11 .iso on your computer's internal disk drive.

You run Rufus on your current installation of windows Rufus to write the .iso onto the thumb drive, so it can configure the drive as a bootable one while copying the data over. Rufus needs to copy data over from the iso.

It shall have a setup wizard with some options. You can choose to bypass tpm from there.

You install Windows like normal after Rufus is done with the thumb drive.




Keeping your Windows version up to date just to keep it up to date is wise, unless you specifically need the older version or Windows. It's plausible that some software developer with an overzealous fetish for O.S. level security and discontinuing support for older O.Ses. will drop WIndows 10 support for practically no reason, just like how chrome (and subsequently steam) dropped Windows 10 support for practically no reason.
WHAT do you mean that they droped 7 support for no reason? they stopped supporing 7 after mcirosoft supporting it. We have 1,5 years exactly left(1 year and 6 months)

. Whhen microsoft stops supporting the previous version of windows do you know what happens? NOT only all the future programs ns games will not worrk on it but also the programs and games you have already installed(including firefox, steam word excel e.t.c) will also stop wrorking the day that the windows 10 support stops(if your pc still have 10 then)
. Not only that but you cant connect to the internet and you get a message that says: ''your OS is not supported by the internet. Please upgrade to the latest version of windows to have access to the internet'' That why we must all upgrade to trhe latest windows. As for updates that colleague at the office told me that the pcs that he installed 11 receives the monthly updates with no problems.

MS dropping support updates for Win10 in Oct 2025 isn't going to hurt anything right away. It would still be a viable OS for years still as the extended updates continue into 2027
Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:
Messaggio originale di SHREDDER:
WHAT do you mean that they droped 7 support for no reason? they stopped supporing 7 after mcirosoft supporting it. We have 1,5 years exactly left(1 year and 6 months)

. Whhen microsoft stops supporting the previous version of windows do you know what happens? NOT only all the future programs ns games will not worrk on it but also the programs and games you have already installed(including firefox, steam word excel e.t.c) will also stop wrorking the day that the windows 10 support stops(if your pc still have 10 then)
. Not only that but you cant connect to the internet and you get a message that says: ''your OS is not supported by the internet. Please upgrade to the latest version of windows to have access to the internet'' That why we must all upgrade to trhe latest windows. As for updates that colleague at the office told me that the pcs that he installed 11 receives the monthly updates with no problems.

MS dropping support updates for Win10 in Oct 2025 isn't going to hurt anything right away. It would still be a viable OS for years still as the extended updates continue into 2027
So when they stoppedf supprting 7 didnt all games and programs that releaseed after it worked only on 11? or when they stoped xp or vista or 98 or millenium support or 95 didnt the next games and programs worked only on the next windows? I have used all windows except vista and 8(igot my first pc in 1996) and iremember very well sicne 2016 all most future games(includign microsoft games) became 10 exculisve.
Messaggio originale di SHREDDER:
Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:

MS dropping support updates for Win10 in Oct 2025 isn't going to hurt anything right away. It would still be a viable OS for years still as the extended updates continue into 2027
So when they stoppedf supprting 7 didnt all games and programs that releaseed after it worked only on 11? or when they stoped xp or vista or 98 or millenium support or 95 didnt the next games and programs worked only on the next windows? I have used all windows except vista and 8(igot my first pc in 1996) and iremember very well sicne 2016 all most future games(includign microsoft games) became 10 exculisve.

There is no real compatibility difference between Win 10 vs 11 for Games.

Support for Win7 as far as Microsoft was concerned ended Jan 2020, before Win11 even came out. Valve waited to cut off Win7/8 so they could drop both at the same time, ad Win8.1 support from MS ended on Jan 2023
win 10 and 11 are functionally the same as win 7, the only difference is additional security added in win 11 and both 10 and 11 have less user control, plus ads/news and a few other things.

if your games arent running on either 10 or 11, then you are either missing something (ms runtimes, desktop runtimes, bad gpu driver, etc.., or ms defender is corrupting game files, or blocking them from running.
Ultima modifica da MonkehMaster; 10 apr 2024, ore 12:39
Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:
Messaggio originale di SHREDDER:
So when they stoppedf supprting 7 didnt all games and programs that releaseed after it worked only on 11? or when they stoped xp or vista or 98 or millenium support or 95 didnt the next games and programs worked only on the next windows? I have used all windows except vista and 8(igot my first pc in 1996) and iremember very well sicne 2016 all most future games(includign microsoft games) became 10 exculisve.

There is no real compatibility difference between Win 10 vs 11 for Games.

Support for Win7 as far as Microsoft was concerned ended Jan 2020, before Win11 even came out. Valve waited to cut off Win7/8 so they could drop both at the same time, ad Win8.1 support from MS ended on Jan 2023
i know this. But the games and progrmas that released after 2015 in 2016+ work(most of them) only in windows 10. which means that after 10 support ends all the new games and programs will work only on 11. By the time the support ends the next gen cpus and motherboards will be released. Thwt why the employ on the shop that i went one week ago and we talked about it toldm e to keep my cpu ram and motherboared until the support ends and then change them and download 11 through windows update because for the same money i will get then better cpu ram and motherboared than now. AMD will release ryzen 9000 and 700 motherboards in few months.
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