What is the best way to install windows 11?

[SHREDDER]

About 2 months ago i talked with one of my colleagues at the office about windows 11 and how to install it on pc that dont have the requirements. He told md that he installed it succesfuly on his parents pc that is from 2012 and also at the pc on the office and both of them work well with it. He then suggest me that instead of changing cpu ram and motjherboard it is better if i install it with Rufus or with the registry method and save some money and keep my current cpu ram and motherboard until they die.
I trust him because i know him for 6 years. But after i read here the 3 methods to do it https://www.xda-developers.com/install-windows-11-unsupported-pc/
i wonder which one is the best?
1 Rufus?
2 Command prompt
or registry?
Which one of the 3 will be best?
MINE MONSTER PC IS
RYZEN 7 1700
RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL
16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15
MP 600 2 TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S
DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS

[Faiyez]

That's the huge glaring flaw with Linux gaming right there.

Say the user intends to drop Windows entirely. Well, it only takes a single game that you play but doesn't play well with Linux for the entire idea to be a non-starter.

On the other hand, I was actually pretty impressed at how "ready" Atlas OS comes out of the box, requiring very minimal added configuration compared to a standard Windows install. I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly I got my system fully set up and ready for normal use.

[r.linder]

Because it’s literally just Windows 10/11 but gutted. There’s basically no setup actually required for it to do. All it does is remove what it can, disable what it can’t. But it isn’t stable, it’s unironically less stable than some of the less stable bleeding edge Linux distros because it can literally brick the OS in some instances and forces you to reinstall.

Basing OS choice on a single game is more of a personal issue, the vast majority of games that don’t work on Linux are ones that blocked Wine in an anticheat, often because it’s a multiplayer game with micro transactions, and those games are already trash that shouldn’t exist in the form that they do.

It’s pretty much all because of DRM and it’s not even a real reason to avoid Linux because you can still dual boot Linux and Windows and use the latter for anything that won’t run at all under Wine and doesn’t have a good open-source alternative, and leave everything else for Linux.

I have absolutely zero reason to use Windows on my personal machines and won’t ever again, regardless of what version it is, the more people keep using their crap, the less inclined they’re going to feel to change anything for the better.

[skOsH♥]

WOKEISM (banned 17 times)님이 먼저 게시:

If you have any type of tpm module and are doing a clean install, then you don't need anything, as even tpm 1.2 windows will accept. You just need to be secure boot capable.

For example, my fx-9590 with tpm 1.2 module doesn't need bypasses to install windows 11. It will proceed with the install and not bother me at all.

For all other computers that don't pass the Microsoft sniff test, I simply use command prompt and enter regedit from there and input my bypasses.

I do this also. I can bypass all attempts by Microsoft to obtain my information

I don't even have a Microsoft account

[Bad 💀 Motha]

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

Because it’s literally just Windows 10/11 but gutted. There’s basically no setup actually required for it to do. All it does is remove what it can, disable what it can’t. But it isn’t stable, it’s unironically less stable than some of the less stable bleeding edge Linux distros because it can literally brick the OS in some instances and forces you to reinstall.

Basing OS choice on a single game is more of a personal issue, the vast majority of games that don’t work on Linux are ones that blocked Wine in an anticheat, often because it’s a multiplayer game with micro transactions, and those games are already trash that shouldn’t exist in the form that they do.

It’s pretty much all because of DRM and it’s not even a real reason to avoid Linux because you can still dual boot Linux and Windows and use the latter for anything that won’t run at all under Wine and doesn’t have a good open-source alternative, and leave everything else for Linux.

I have absolutely zero reason to use Windows on my personal machines and won’t ever again, regardless of what version it is, the more people keep using their crap, the less inclined they’re going to feel to change anything for the better.

I guess you and others won't be buying any tech devices moving forward then. As they all moving forward with an AI NPU integration method for the next devices; Phones, Tablets, even TV/Monitor Panels. The GPUs will have them too.

I don't even see how you have any fun with Tech, your ridiculous fears hold you back.

[r.linder]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

Because it’s literally just Windows 10/11 but gutted. There’s basically no setup actually required for it to do. All it does is remove what it can, disable what it can’t. But it isn’t stable, it’s unironically less stable than some of the less stable bleeding edge Linux distros because it can literally brick the OS in some instances and forces you to reinstall.

Basing OS choice on a single game is more of a personal issue, the vast majority of games that don’t work on Linux are ones that blocked Wine in an anticheat, often because it’s a multiplayer game with micro transactions, and those games are already trash that shouldn’t exist in the form that they do.

It’s pretty much all because of DRM and it’s not even a real reason to avoid Linux because you can still dual boot Linux and Windows and use the latter for anything that won’t run at all under Wine and doesn’t have a good open-source alternative, and leave everything else for Linux.

I have absolutely zero reason to use Windows on my personal machines and won’t ever again, regardless of what version it is, the more people keep using their crap, the less inclined they’re going to feel to change anything for the better.

I guess you and others won't be buying any tech devices moving forward then. As they all moving forward with an AI NPU integration method for the next devices; Phones, Tablets, even TV/Monitor Panels. The GPUs will have them too.

I don't even see how you have any fun with Tech, your ridiculous fears hold you back.

Artificial intelligence by itself isn't a problem, rather the problem is specific things that can be exploited by companies like Microsoft, and the hardware itself is just an AI accelerator, they're not storing an AI in the CPU and GPU cores themselves, and it can be left completely unused regardless. It's entirely up to software, and Linux for the most part won't be using AI because people don't give a rat's ass about it.

Online polls taken by sites like tomshardware.com have already shown refuse to pay more for NPUs in any event, nobody actually asked for this crap.

And I shouldn't have to remind people that great minds like Stephen Hawking warned that AI could be the best or worst thing to ever happen to humanity, people have valid reasons to at least be cautious, especially when you have massive corporations controlling its future. They can do pretty much anything they want with it, to hell with the rest of us. Current AI in things like Teslas can't even be trusted to do what they were designed and trained to do yet, I wouldn't trust that ♥♥♥♥ being involved with an operating system for quite a few years until all of the kinks are properly ironed out, it's not something you can roll out overnight and trust that it won't screw everything up.

[skOsH♥]

Zefar님이 먼저 게시:

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

The myth of "Linux is more work" is one that's constantly thrown around as an excuse, and at least some of the people who spread that nonsense are the same people who will spend hours debloating and reconfiguring Windows because its default state absolutely sucks, when Linux distros let you choose what to include and what to omit before the OS is even installed.

Again, you don't need to do any of that. The telemetry barely if ever affects the performance.

Don't think I've seen any benchmark showing it makes a difference.

Also it's real easy to turn off and make it minimal. Go into Settings in Windows, head into Privacy & Security. Then under "Windows Permission" you can just turn off the 8 options and that's done.

Spending hours? As if. Majority of the users haven't turned it off because don't know it's on and haven't noticed it.

Are you comfortable with Microsoft wanting to take random screenshots of people's desktops / what is currently on their screen? They could to that to you logging into your bank, and snapshot before each symbol/number/character you type in, turns into an *

And if their servers that store all that stuff that is a *massive* invasion of privacy were breached/hacked, if they took screenshots of you logging into your bank, now some hacker has your bank info, and can just withdraw all of it before you know it

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

That's one reason I suggested people select an EU country when installing Win11 for example as this abides by a much more strict set of rules for the overall user privacy.

My main thing is what are you doing on the PC that has you as user so scared about data collection. Everything collects data, even many of these games. I setup my devices to where you basically would not be able to tie it and it's use to an actual person. Such as not using a Microsoft account for WinOS, not using Fingerprint or Facicial login on any device, etc. So even if you use Linux they still collect data on general OS usage and such and you are logging into your various websites and services, so there isn't much of a difference.

It’s a lot less work as far as minimizing that, and Linux is just better than Windows in the majority of circumstances, it’s only not in cases where there’s vital work software suites that aren’t compatible and won’t work under compatibility layers. But that applies more to enterprise machines than home users, which is why I think the future of Windows lies in business and enterprise rather than recreational use.

Games that refuse support for Linux may as well not exist at all to me, if they won’t support us then we shouldn’t support them, period

It's not about anything I do on my computer. It's not Microsoft's business. I am using their OS, I literally have no obligation to give them any information. I am not required to "finish setting up your pc" every so often when it asks me to make a microsoft account, etc.

Literally about the principle of the thing. I deserve privacy. I don't pry into other people's lives. So, why can't I just use my computer without people and web crawlers finding out my preferences or tastes, that just makes very specific targeted ads, and then it gets really creepy. I don't like Bill Gates, he apparently needed to meet with sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, so he could "raise money". Bill Gates...needing to raise money. He doesn't get to know anything about me.

In fact, I deliberately open up nonsense websites that are completely not my tastes, delete temp files, switch my IP and port forwarding, and repeat the process. Now these ads think I am in old age. Perfect. They can be wrong about me in every way, shape, and form.

I agree with r.linder. Linux is actually easy to learn most of what you need. You can get proton and winetricks to run just about anything. I was able to run cyberpunk 2077 on my old piece of junk outdated computer, with about 7 additonal frames running it on Linux versus Windows. I would say it's worth it. Windows is just bloatware with probably over a million lines of extra unnecessary code that have never been removed

[Bad 💀 Motha]

^ This kind of talk basically says you have no idea about WinOS at all, just what you hear or see in stupid tech news crap on your phone news feeds.

Who said you had to give them data?
Who said you must make a Microsoft account?
Who says Microsoft is taking snap-shots of everything you do on your PC?

All of that is false and/or can be changed by the user.

[r.linder]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

^ This kind of talk basically says you have no idea about WinOS at all, just what you hear or see in stupid tech news crap on your phone news feeds.

Who said you had to give them data?
Who said you must make a Microsoft account?
Who says Microsoft is taking snap-shots of everything you do on your PC?

All of that is false and/or can be changed by the user.

Or it just shows how much you people are in denial.

Even when you disable and remove ♥♥♥♥ that Microsoft put into the OS to collect information, it often gets reactivated when the system restarts for updates, that is a fact. Millions of users can attest to that.
Microsoft has been intentionally making it more difficult for people to avoid not using a Microsoft account to set up and use Windows. That is also a fact, and eventually you won't even be able to make a local account, they're poised to remove that feature.
Recall effectively does exactly what dc said, it records pretty much everything, and Microsoft was forced to change it into an opt-in feature because people were outraged by it being a feature that was included by default, and the security of it was immediately terrible because it was immediately easy for people to hack and gain access to user information, so they had to change it so it requires user authentication to access anything it records.

The fact that you have to spend any amount of time to retroactively disable or remove ♥♥♥♥ that Microsoft has put into the OS is enough evidence and reason to just not use it at all, and to condemn it. The fact that people won't condemn it because they've accepted their fate time after time is the reason why nothing is going to get better with it, none of you have the stones to actually take a stand against a corporation that actively changes the OS to benefit the corporation more than it benefits the user. You can't continue to use Windows and expect Microsoft to not try to screw around with your data in new ways behind your back without you even knowing.
Neil deGrasse Tyson himself expressed concerns of what the future holds because people repeatedly accept and resign every time there's another "advancement" in society that has potentially dangerous ramifications.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I don't just go in and toggle something off; I change it OS-wide via Group Policy Editor.

I block the Microsoft traffic with a Pii-Hole, which I also use to block ads on many sites, so I don't have to rely on some Adblocker app that don't work half the time and just ties up system resources.

F Linux though, I want my stuff to all work, and it has all worked fine on WinOS.

You all are free to make Linux helping threads, by no need to come into every WinOS thread and bloat it with your personal BS.

[r.linder]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

You all are free to make Linux helping threads, by no need to come into every WinOS thread and bloat it with your personal BS.

It's far from the worst thing on the forums in the last few years and Valve doesn't give crap. Get over it, it's an OS thread, people are free to share alternatives that aren't trash like 11.

Block, ignore, unsubscribe. You can't complain when you continually respond and keep it going.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

You all are free to make Linux helping threads, by no need to come into every WinOS thread and bloat it with your personal BS.

It's far from the worst thing on the forums in the last few years and Valve doesn't give crap. Get over it, it's an OS thread, people are free to share alternatives that aren't trash like 11.

Block, ignore, unsubscribe. You can't complain when you continually respond and keep it going.

That's not the point. My point was basically we were here in THIS thread discussing something and then folks have to come barging in like "Oh why are you still using WinOS, jump over to Linux"

The OP never asked about that or anything in relation is the point. Some folks just love barking to make noise, not actually saying anything worth-while.

Why you have to hi-jack threads just because you don't like the topic being discussed?

[r.linder]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

It's far from the worst thing on the forums in the last few years and Valve doesn't give crap. Get over it, it's an OS thread, people are free to share alternatives that aren't trash like 11.

Block, ignore, unsubscribe. You can't complain when you continually respond and keep it going.

That's not the point. My point was basically we were here in THIS thread discussing something and then folks have to come barging in like "Oh why are you still using WinOS, jump over to Linux"

The OP never asked about that or anything in relation is the point. Some folks just love barking to make noise, not actually saying anything worth-while.

Why you have to hi-jack threads just because you don't like the topic being discussed?

If you have a problem with the topic that some people are having then ignore it, you're not obligated to stick around for it and weigh in. Pretty freaking simple.

We're going to keep reminding people that they have other options than just Windows, that's all there is to it, don't care what the shills and haters think about it.

[BionicSeaSerpent]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

^ This kind of talk basically says you have no idea about WinOS at all, just what you hear or see in stupid tech news crap on your phone news feeds.

Who said you had to give them data?
Who said you must make a Microsoft account?
Who says Microsoft is taking snap-shots of everything you do on your PC?

All of that is false and/or can be changed by the user.

who said you have to give MS data? MS.
who said you have to make a Micorsoft Account? Microsoft.
Who said they were taking screenshots of what you are doing? Microsoft. quit pro monopoly ragebaiting dude we don't fall for that ♥♥♥♥.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

BionicSeaSerpent님이 먼저 게시:

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

^ This kind of talk basically says you have no idea about WinOS at all, just what you hear or see in stupid tech news crap on your phone news feeds.

Who said you had to give them data?
Who said you must make a Microsoft account?
Who says Microsoft is taking snap-shots of everything you do on your PC?

All of that is false and/or can be changed by the user.

who said you have to give MS data? MS.
who said you have to make a Micorsoft Account? Microsoft.
Who said they were taking screenshots of what you are doing? Microsoft. quit pro monopoly ragebaiting dude we don't fall for that ♥♥♥♥.

Again my point is you're wrong. You have a choice in all of that.
If you don't understand how to do that, you've just been doing it all wrong.
Still, it all speaks for itself. If WinOS was that bad, especially for Gaming, there would be alot more people (PCs) using Linux. The % is still so very low it's laughable at best.

[Faiyez]

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

Because it’s literally just Windows 10/11 but gutted. There’s basically no setup actually required for it to do. All it does is remove what it can, disable what it can’t. But it isn’t stable, it’s unironically less stable than some of the less stable bleeding edge Linux distros because it can literally brick the OS in some instances and forces you to reinstall.

It's becoming very apparent that you're not speaking from personal experience, but more like parroting some Youtuber Linux evangelist.

The so-called "stable" GUI focused variants of Linux aren't stable at all, and they are much, much less functional than what I have right now.

Linux has become very trendy these days, but let's face it, it's not a realistic solution for gaming. Furthermore, the current solutions available to gain control of your Windows environment are so straightforward and simple, that IMO gamers don't even need to think about Linux unless they really want to. For anyone with not enough free time, just keep using windows.