Installing windows on a MoBo then changing the Mobo

[Austrasto]

I have a motherboard b450f ASUS TUF which uses PCIE gen 3 for the only M.2 slot connection it has. I recently purchased an WDB NVME PCIE gen 4. I know that the NVME is compatible with PCIE gen 3. I want to know if I can install Windows 10 with my current motherboard and later switch to another motherboard with PCIE gen 4 capabilities. Will there be any issues using that new motherboard with the Windows I installed previously?

[_I_]

new mobo should have a new os install

you can upgrade mobo/cpu gen by maybe 2-3 cpu gens, but more than that will be completely different drivers for everything

nvme drive speed will depend on the board and dive pci-e rev, whichever is slower

[Austrasto]

Messaggio originale di kitty:

You can ignore what other people have said as that's mostly false information. You should be perfectly fine as long as you are moving from AMD -> AMD. Like moving from a B450 motherboard to a X570 motherboard for example.

Nice, I want to move from a B450 to a B550 so it made sense at first but I did remember it's Windows and I really can't know for sure.

Thank you.

[Andrius227]

Should work, yeah. But you may need to remove old drivers and get new ones. For wifi, audio and other things.

[_I_]

that would work, only a few gens apart

be sure to install the mobo drivers from the mobo mfg site

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You can install Win10/11 on basically any PC all you want as many times as you want. As these have the option to NOT input any product key during a clean install. You can input a legit key later on if you decide to keep that OS edition on that Motherboard

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Messaggio originale di kitty:

Messaggio originale di Andrius227:

Should work, yeah. But you may need to remove old drivers and get new ones. For wifi, audio and other things.

Windows update should automatically download the correct drivers for any onboard device for any modern motherboard like something based on X570 or B550.

While mostly true those are often just generic drivers and not exactly fully featured drivers which is best suited for your hardware to bave its full features like the Motherboard maker intended which is why you get these from the Motherboard maker. With exception of Chipset and GPU which you get from the Chipset Maker.you really should only get Drivers through WU when it's an OEM prebuild or Laptop

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Messaggio originale di kitty:

Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:

While mostly true those are often just generic drivers and not exactly fully featured drivers which is best suited for your hardware to bave its full features like the Motherboard maker intended which is why you get these from the Motherboard maker. With exception of Chipset and GPU which you get from the Chipset Maker.you really should only get Drivers through WU when it's an OEM prebuild or Laptop

I think you aren't using a current version of Windows then like the current version of Windows 10 or Windows 11. What you wrote was true for Windows 7. However today Windows Update for both the current version of Windows 10 and Windows 11 can and will download the "fully featured" driver for onboard devices now (not generic microsoft drivers). Including video card drivers, and drivers from motherboards and manufactures. Anyone using a modern version of Windows on semi-modern hardware made within the past 4-5 years will just have it loading drivers for the system automatically now.

Well then people just doing it all wrong. Those can't always be trusted.
Simply install Win10/11 Pro or Enterprise (since Win10 Enterprise is the only edition that will get free updates beyond 2025). With Pro or Enterprise you have Group Policy Editor and then can disable all drivers via the WU service.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It comes from Microsoft people... yea REALLY good advice.

[_I_]

once you have the correct driver, it rarely needs to be updated
windows driver updates cause more problems than they fix

[A&A]

Messaggio originale di kitty:

So now you openly admit that you're giving people bad technical advice on purpose. There's no reason not to "trust" a driver from windows update. It comes from microsoft. There is no more trustworthy source on the internet. A driver is a driver. If the device works then it works and there's no reason to be concerned with anything else. No one is going to sit here and spend 1~2 hours trying to hunt down all the individual drivers for each little device in our computer. That's just crazy. Just let windows update get it and move on with life and be happy.

To anyone else that finds this thread: DO NOT DISABLE DRIVER UPDATES FROM WINDOWS UPDATE! You actually need that most of the time.

Additionally: Yay Bad Motha is off topic again. That's the second time in 24 hours.

Good luck with MS updates to install your chipset drivers and for your GPU not an old driver. Latest ethernet port driver not generic and same thing with audio ones. It only takes me 10 minutes to get all the drivers from the manufacturers, not from MS. As for trustworthy, I'm sorry, but the manufacturers are more on this regard than MS Updates.

[_I_]

windows update always pulls generic drivers

again, that psu does not have properly set protections
it keeps trying to power the system when its failing

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Messaggio originale di kitty:

Messaggio originale di _I_:

windows update always pulls generic drivers

As I have tried to explain: This is ONLY TRUE FOR WINDOWS 7. And very old versions of Windows 10. TODAY, with the CURRENT VERSION of Windows 10 and Windows 11 that is NOT TRUE anymore. The current versions of windows pull down manufacturer drivers (NOT GENERIC DRIVERS!) from Windows update.

Messaggio originale di _I_:

again, that psu does not have properly set protections
it keeps trying to power the system when its failing

What are you even talking about? No one mentioned a power supply in this thread ????????

You have ANY DATA to suggest otherwise? I know for a FACT that MOST drivers through WU are outdated and also many of them for things like Audio, LAN, WIFI are very often just basic drivers from MS that do not include the full features normally provided by official drivers from chipset makers. That means you are not better full list of options on you audio or network adapters, etc. when using many of the available drivers that make themselves available via WU.

None of that even matters. What matters you should not be trusting ANY 3rd party for your drivers, period. MS themselves have been hacked many times, who's to say one day hackers don't sneak malware into something that MS ends up having available for basically all users. You trust that MS is doing it's best to keep any accessible files safe, which I know, we could say the same for any company out there. But still why do people go around suggesting the most lazy ways of doing things and then call that "Oh look, I'm a professional, I'm helping" no you are being a part of every PC users problems by suggesting lazy behavior and user methods. All you should be getting from WU are OS updates, that's it. MS by law shouldn't even be allowed to distribute 3rd party drivers or software, period. There are loop holes and partnerships that are allowing this, but you shouldn't rely on that as something official just because it comes from WU.

Users need to get and be better at manually staying on top of these drivers and updates and alike. Stop letting MS and others dictate what should go onto your devices.

The biggest reason I view it all this way and why we all need to get and do better with all this is because while the very latest drivers are not always the best most stable ones; that should ALWAYS be up to the User to decide, with exceptions to various requirements of course. Like a certain game you go to run at some point is going to need you as the user to update a driver at some point. But above all it's not hard to micro-manage a few in-home devices.

People do not like it someone like MS auto pushes updates, especially a faulty one, to your device, so why on Earth would you get your drivers through them.

Another reason to look to the chipset maker for your drivers is performance. Your devices' overall performance can be affected by which drivers you use.

All the major tech companies practice this and any repair shop in Asia or USA that I've been to, Microcenter techs, the small brick and mortar repair shops that are privately owned and ran by small families; etc.

Only a MS partner, like Dell or HP for example would suggest that you go through MS for Drivers. What does that tell you?

And mostly when I say don't get drivers from MS I'm mainly preferring to anyone using any PC that uses off the shelf parts, Custom Builds and alike. Whether it was a DIY builds or custom ordered by say PCCaseGear in AU, Microcenter in USA, or Sager with its Laptops or something from brands like Asus, AsRock, EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte, Corsair, NZXT... those are not typical OEM stuff that would be used by Dell or HP. Or what you'd call "in house designed hardware" that you often see from brands like Dell, HP, Lenovo...

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Again I get all that and I understand everything you mean. Doesn't make you correct.

Why do you keep saying "can you read" ?

We can read and understand perfectly fine, but you just keep repeating total BS.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Messaggio originale di kitty:

Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:

Again I get all that and I understand everything you mean. Doesn't make you correct.

Why do you keep saying "can you read" ?

We can read and understand perfectly fine, but you just keep repeating total BS.

If you understand what I'm writing then why do you still continue on and on and on about trying to fight me, start arguments, argue with me, etc, etc. It's like you're trying to behave like a cyber bully for some unknown reason. Instead of bothering me with your useless crap why don't you try actually helping the OP here? Do you know how to help anyone? Or is arguing with other people in the steam forums your only purpose here?

Then stop being combative. Speak to the OP, not me.
That is all.