DDR5 upgrade?

[R3dAlert93]

Is it worth to upgrade now from DDR4 or should i wait a little longer?

[ZAP]

Originalmente postado por Dutchgamer1982:

you never upgrade just for ddr5.

besides :
the fastest ddr4 is still faster than the fastest ddr5 at this point.

generally as you update you do it for other reasons.
and you look for the solution thats the best or cheapest answer to those reason.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gV3fDDLr918

[N3tRunn3r]

DDR4 @ 3200 MHz (bandwidth) as minimum already becomes obsolete ...

there exists buffed Crucial DDR4 5100 MHz RAM, but you need a compatible board for that . . .and these are even more expensive than a DDR5 counterpart !!

DDR5 @ minimum 4800 is the way to go nowadays, 5600 better standard

However, while DDR4 still have a low CL (latency) of 16, DDR5 have a higher CL of 30 !!

So a DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 is as good as a DDR5 6400 CL32 in theory !!
Of course there are still variables and differences . . . ::

https://www.crucial.com/support/articles-faq-memory/differences-in-memory-speed-and-data-rate

whatever you choose, sooner or later, always keep your RAM in Dual Channel mode, for example to use a 2x 16 GB DDR5 5600 MHz RAM Kit, and in rare circumstances to enable XMP mode via BIOS.

DDR5 is already future and more advanced, soon !! And DDR5 does already perform way better and is more stable than DDR4 . . .

So 2x DDR5 5600 CL30 is / can perform better than 2x DDR4 3200 CL16 . . .


Upgrade with a compatible board to 2x 16 GB DDR5 @ 5600 MHz CL30 !!
You already get this Dual Channel Kit for 120 EUR ONLY !!

That is nothing . . .

And sometimes it is even cheaper to buy RAM sticks each, instead as a Kit . . .
Paradox . . .

[ZAP]

I had good Samsung B die and Micron Rev E DDR4 when getting a Z690 system. The launch DDR5 I got for it goes higher and way tighter than what was tested in that video above frequently showing 30-35% gains for 12th gen on DDR5.

[R3dAlert93]

Originalmente postado por N3tRunn3r:

DDR4 @ 3200 MHz (bandwidth) as minimum already becomes obsolete ...

there exists buffed Crucial DDR4 5100 MHz RAM, but you need a compatible board for that . . .and these are even more expensive than a DDR5 counterpart !!

DDR5 @ minimum 4800 is the way to go nowadays, 5600 better standard

However, while DDR4 still have a low CL (latency) of 16, DDR5 have a higher CL of 30 !!

So a DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 is as good as a DDR5 6400 CL32 in theory !!
Of course there are still variables and differences . . . ::

https://www.crucial.com/support/articles-faq-memory/differences-in-memory-speed-and-data-rate

whatever you choose, sooner or later, always keep your RAM in Dual Channel mode, for example to use a 2x 16 GB DDR5 5600 MHz RAM Kit, and in rare circumstances to enable XMP mode via BIOS.

DDR5 is already future and more advanced, soon !! And DDR5 does already perform way better and is more stable than DDR4 . . .

So 2x DDR5 5600 CL30 is / can perform better than 2x DDR4 3200 CL16 . . .


Upgrade with a compatible board to 2x 16 GB DDR5 @ 5600 MHz CL30 !!
You already get this Dual Channel Kit for 120 EUR ONLY !!

That is nothing . . .

And sometimes it is even cheaper to buy RAM sticks each, instead as a Kit . . .
Paradox . . .

Hi there, thank you for responding. Will these be good for gaming then?

Motherboard
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/p8P8TW/asus-rog-strix-z790-a-gaming-wifi-ii-atx-lga1700-motherboard-rog-strix-z790-a-gaming-wifi-ii

DDR5 ram
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4kmmP6/corsair-vengeance-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl36-memory-cmk32gx5m2b5600c36

[R3dAlert93]

Originalmente postado por N3tRunn3r:

DDR4 @ 3200 MHz (bandwidth) as minimum already becomes obsolete ...

there exists buffed Crucial DDR4 5100 MHz RAM, but you need a compatible board for that . . .and these are even more expensive than a DDR5 counterpart !!

DDR5 @ minimum 4800 is the way to go nowadays, 5600 better standard

However, while DDR4 still have a low CL (latency) of 16, DDR5 have a higher CL of 30 !!

So a DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 is as good as a DDR5 6400 CL32 in theory !!
Of course there are still variables and differences . . . ::

https://www.crucial.com/support/articles-faq-memory/differences-in-memory-speed-and-data-rate

whatever you choose, sooner or later, always keep your RAM in Dual Channel mode, for example to use a 2x 16 GB DDR5 5600 MHz RAM Kit, and in rare circumstances to enable XMP mode via BIOS.

DDR5 is already future and more advanced, soon !! And DDR5 does already perform way better and is more stable than DDR4 . . .

So 2x DDR5 5600 CL30 is / can perform better than 2x DDR4 3200 CL16 . . .


Upgrade with a compatible board to 2x 16 GB DDR5 @ 5600 MHz CL30 !!
You already get this Dual Channel Kit for 120 EUR ONLY !!

That is nothing . . .

And sometimes it is even cheaper to buy RAM sticks each, instead as a Kit . . .
Paradox . . .

I thought everyone says that the best for gaming is to go for DDR5 6400MHz.

[smokerob79]

depends on the CPU used.....and other factors like using a 32gb kit that is 2x16hb so you fill out the whole 128bit bus width

[R3dAlert93]

Originalmente postado por smokerob79:

depends on the CPU used.....and other factors like using a 32gb kit that is 2x16hb so you fill out the whole 128bit bus width

Will 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHz Ram be alright though for an i7 12700K???

I kind of getting confused whether which one to go with... Next year i will be upgrading my cpu anyway to a 14700k with a new AiO.

For now i just wanna get rid of DDR4.

[ZAP]

Get 6400 CL32 1.35v. Worst case you run it at 6200 for 12th gen, best case it clocks above 7000 for future use.

[smokerob79]

speed of memory will come back to CPU used and what will be stable as even the motherboard will be a factor...upgrading now means you may end up with memory that may not be happy with the future CPU upgrade.....to be blunt I would not upgrade until you can do CPU, memory and mother at the same time.....are you having any current issues, like running out of memory when using a certain program or game???

also on point is the fact that if you are JUST GAMING and dont need a intel based system because you do not use Adobe or some other program, you should be looking in to a AMD based system....Intel is having massive problems with CPU's degrading in the 13th and 14th gen CPU's.....and dollar for dollar AMD is giving you move frames then intel.....like a 350 dollar 7800x3d beating 600 dollar intel chips

the other factor is upgrading as time goes on should be easier over the next 5 years VS any option from intel......


if your running out of memory now it would be better/cheaper to match times of current memory and dump in a second set to get to 32gb.....then do a whole mother, CPU and memory upgrade at one time man....then factor in, give it a year as a ton of things are coming......

[ZAP]

A 30-35% fps increase on 12th gen in a bunch of games is massive. You tune components on top of that and it's giving supersampling "performance gains".

[R3dAlert93]

I brought the 6000Mhz

[skOsH♥]

I upgraded my ram

Finally got a kit that runs in expo @6400MHz

My PC is at least 50% faster now. Before, I was running abysmal speeds and not even expo

[A&A]

Originalmente postado por ZAP:

I had good Samsung B die and Micron Rev E DDR4 when getting a Z690 system. The launch DDR5 I got for it goes higher and way tighter than what was tested in that video above frequently showing 30-35% gains for 12th gen on DDR5.

Can you tell me more how early DDR5 is faster than DDR4 Samsung B die?

[ZAP]

Originalmente postado por A&A:

Originalmente postado por ZAP:

I had good Samsung B die and Micron Rev E DDR4 when getting a Z690 system. The launch DDR5 I got for it goes higher and way tighter than what was tested in that video above frequently showing 30-35% gains for 12th gen on DDR5.

Can you tell me more how early DDR5 is faster than DDR4 Samsung B die?

You saw those numbers and still don't beleive it, nothing I say will change your mind. Living in a DRAM fantasy world where less performance is better.

[A&A]

Originalmente postado por ZAP:

You saw those numbers and still don't beleive it, nothing I say will change your mind. Living in a DRAM fantasy world where less performance is better.

Maybe don't run away from the question? Because it comes out so you can't explain.