Need Help deciding between 2 retired workstations.

[Arthur]

Option 1:
GTX 1080ti 11gb
Threadripper 1950X 16c/32t
Msi X399
240mm aio

Option 2:
Quadro RTX 4000 - 8gb
Core i9-7940X 14c/28t
X299 Board (Can’t find brand)
360mm aio

Both machines have 32GB 3200mhz Quad channel ram, 4TB storage. I think the 1080ti has more raster performance and 3gb more ram but is based on an older architecture and lacks DLSS and Hardware RT support. Unfortunately I couldn’t find any modern benchmarks on the 7940X to compare against the 1950X. These are retired workstations that I’m receiving for free. Just have to pick one. If anyone has any experience with these hardware configs I’d love to hear your thoughts.

[Omega]

If you only care about gaming performance get the rig with the 1080 Ti. The Quadro is much slower in games.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Quadro is trash for gaming and 1080 Ti still has quite a bit kick left so for gaming option 1 is no brainer.

[Arthur]

Originalmente postado por Omega:

If you only care about gaming performance get the rig with the 1080 Ti. The Quadro is much slower in games.

How much slower? can you give me an equivalent to the consumer line up i.e. RTX 2060 etc etc. And would the low clock speeds of the 1950X affect gaming performance?

[PopinFRESH]

CPU wise the Intel one would be better than 1st gen Zen threadripper. But as-is I’d still lean towards option 1 as others have noted.

If you aren’t opposed to putting a bit of money and a little work into it then I’d look at option 2, selling the Quadro and buying an RTX 30 series.

[Arthur]

Originalmente postado por smallcat:

Quadro RTX 4000 is on par with RX 6600 .8% faster than rtx 2060 . 15% slower than gtx 1080ti

Thanks, good to know, is this across the board? or do some games favour the newer turing architecture?

[Arthur]

Originalmente postado por PopinFRESH:

CPU wise the Intel one would be better than 1st gen Zen threadripper. But as-is I’d still lean towards option 1 as others have noted.

If you aren’t opposed to putting a bit of money and a little work into it then I’d look at option 2, selling the Quadro and buying an RTX 30 series.

Thats a good idea, which rig would have a higher value on the market right now? as far as I know I think they are both dead platforms, X399 only supports TR2000 and X299 only supports up to cascade lake X

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Originalmente postado por Arthur:

Originalmente postado por smallcat:

Quadro RTX 4000 is on par with RX 6600 .8% faster than rtx 2060 . 15% slower than gtx 1080ti

Thanks, good to know, is this across the board? or do some games favour the newer turing architecture?

There are also possible issues with Quadro not working right with some games because game developers don`t design them with cards like this in mind.

[skOsH♥]

I mean, I would try and find better parts for whatever build you decide to wake from its slumber. If this is for gaming, I would go for option 1. If you need something for a workstation, also option 1. Reason being, is the cpu alone. The AMD thread rippers are a beast, and the 1080ti was a really well made card.

It also has more gddr memory, and games seem to need at least 18gb of memory if you're running 4k ultra graphics.

That thread ripper won't get bogged down much if you upgrade the gpu to a middle of the line, newer gpu. I would pair it with a last gen amd card, to be perfectly honest with you. If you went even newer, idk if the threadripper would be able to take full advantage of the gpu in a gaming scenario.

I would also add more ram, as much as you can with the best timings and the fastest available for the board

Lastly, I would swap the AIOs, and cool the threadripper with the 360mm AIO

Test it on an older cpu chip you don't care about first just to make sure it still works

As for Quaddro, it was mainly designed for those who do more workstation stuff. I mean, it can run games, but that 1080ti is a really good card, despite its age

[Arthur]

Originalmente postado por smallcat:

I prefer efficiency so i dislike 250W of GTX 1080 ti although it has 11GB VRAM . RTX 4000 Is 160W . For that kind of 3D performance 11GB VRAM is way overkill . Both processors are close in performance - 5-8% difference single/multi core . In fact they are on par with i5 12600KF .

Yea 90W difference + it's an OEM model so TDP is probably over 250W, as for CPU I can live with this, 12600k's MC performance is no slouch.

[Arthur]

Originalmente postado por Rumpelcrutchskin:

Originalmente postado por Arthur:

Thanks, good to know, is this across the board? or do some games favour the newer turing architecture?

There are also possible issues with Quadro not working right with some games because game developers don`t design them with cards like this in mind.

Okay, thanks for the info. I didn't know these problems existed, I assumed you can always install Game ready drivers on quadro cards.

[Arthur]

Originalmente postado por d¢:

I mean, I would try and find better parts for whatever build you decide to wake from its slumber. If this is for gaming, I would go for option 1. If you need something for a workstation, also option 1. Reason being, is the cpu alone. The AMD thread rippers are a beast, and the 1080ti was a really well made card.

It also has more gddr memory, and games seem to need at least 18gb of memory if you're running 4k ultra graphics.

That thread ripper won't get bogged down much if you upgrade the gpu to a middle of the line, newer gpu. I would pair it with a last gen amd card, to be perfectly honest with you. If you went even newer, idk if the threadripper would be able to take full advantage of the gpu in a gaming scenario.

I would also add more ram, as much as you can with the best timings and the fastest available for the board

Lastly, I would swap the AIOs, and cool the threadripper with the 360mm AIO

Test it on an older cpu chip you don't care about first just to make sure it still works

As for Quaddro, it was mainly designed for those who do more workstation stuff. I mean, it can run games, but that 1080ti is a really good card, despite its age

Thats not a bad idea, I'll talk to someone from that department and see if I can part some stuff out and swap between those machines. I'm thinking of taking the RTX 4000 with me as it's worth a bit more on marketplace and get a 3070 ti or something like that.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originalmente postado por Arthur:

Originalmente postado por Omega:

If you only care about gaming performance get the rig with the 1080 Ti. The Quadro is much slower in games.

How much slower? can you give me an equivalent to the consumer line up i.e. RTX 2060 etc etc. And would the low clock speeds of the 1950X affect gaming performance?

It's not even a matter of slower. Quadro is for 3d rendering and such and most games won't run on those.

Gtx 1080 Ti is good enough to run mostly any game well enough at 1080p ot 1440p.

Either CPU would do fine. 32GB RAM is plenty.

Just stick at least one SSD in there and do a clean install of Win11 23H2

Get latest drivers from Intel, AMD, NVIDIA

You can ID the Motherboard within the BIOS or install an app such as CPU-Z to ID the board and RAM

[Arthur]

Update: I've decided to go for the X399 platform mainly due to support for 2nd gen Thread Ripper (Skylake-X to Cascade lake-X isn't too big of an upgrade). They also allowed me to swap parts as long as I put them back together for them. I will be swamping the AIO and the GTX 1080ti for the RTX A4000 as it is currently worth more on the 2nd hand market. I will be selling the RTX 4000 and adding my own money to get something from either RDNA2 or Ampere. As for the CPU I will keep using the 1950X for now until 2990X prices go down. Thanks everyone for the advice.