The Cozy Win7 Thread

[Nosteru]

Hello Again Fellow Community!

This Thread is about Win7. You can free talk anything about that OS.
Be technical issues you need help, the future and past of the OS, some fun story you want to share, your opinion about it, your advice, useful apps and such.

This is the place for everyone interrested or against Win7.

Just please be polite and try to respect eachother.

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[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Ursprungligen skrivet av r.linder:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Technically and legally you can not re-activate your windows 7 license on a new install on a different motherboard as that would be a "different computer". Windows 7 licenses are typically only allowed to ever be activated for one computer, the original at the time of building the computer when you first activated Windows 7. If you change motherboards you're supposed to buy another windows 7 license for the new system to be legally compliant.

That is only true for pre-activated copies of Windows 7 which ship with OEM machines. The retail version of Windows 7 that users could purchase came with a license that could be reused just like later versions of Windows.

You can't "re-activate" an OA or SLP license because it was pre-activated, nothing happens if you try.

Sorry but nope: You're completely wrong there. It's in the EULA that even retail copies of Windows 7 were only licensed for 1 computer and only ever for the orginal computer it was first activated on. You might want to try taking a moment to read the entire EULA for Windows to see it yourself. I read it once. It is in there.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Master.Constructor:

First Windows 7 update of 2025!
Installing 25.1.15 now. Long live Win7, etc, etc.

How are you updating Windows 7 when Microsoft hasn't released a new update for Windows 7? Did you magically make up your own update code yourself?

[r.linder]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Ursprungligen skrivet av r.linder:

That is only true for pre-activated copies of Windows 7 which ship with OEM machines. The retail version of Windows 7 that users could purchase came with a license that could be reused just like later versions of Windows.

You can't "re-activate" an OA or SLP license because it was pre-activated, nothing happens if you try.

Sorry but nope: You're completely wrong there. It's in the EULA that even retail copies of Windows 7 were only licensed for 1 computer and only ever for the orginal computer it was first activated on. You might want to try taking a moment to read the entire EULA for Windows to see it yourself. I read it once. It is in there.

Nobody cares what the EULA says, if the license can be reused then people will do so regardless. What's M$ gonna do, sue you?

It's by design that the license can be transferred from one machine to another as long as the old one is deactivated. Only one machine can be licensed at a given time but it's not permanent.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Ursprungligen skrivet av r.linder:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Sorry but nope: You're completely wrong there. It's in the EULA that even retail copies of Windows 7 were only licensed for 1 computer and only ever for the orginal computer it was first activated on. You might want to try taking a moment to read the entire EULA for Windows to see it yourself. I read it once. It is in there.

Nobody cares what the EULA says, if the license can be reused then people will do so regardless. What's M$ gonna do, sue you?

If you violate the terms of the software license then that's illegal. Surely you would know better than to write comments in public in the steam forums that encourage people to commit illegal activities ...

[r.linder]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Ursprungligen skrivet av r.linder:

Nobody cares what the EULA says, if the license can be reused then people will do so regardless. What's M$ gonna do, sue you?

If you violate the terms of the software license then that's illegal. Surely you would know better than to write comments in public in the steam forums that encourage people to commit illegal activities ...

Then Microsoft shouldn't have made transferable licenses so their silly EULA would actually mean something...

If you honestly think that Microsoft is going to pursue legal action on the millions of people worldwide that re-use their Windows 7, 10, and 11 licenses when they don't even go after piracy of the OS in general, then that tells people all they need to know that you're just arguing for the sake of it, because if they actually tried that, it would get thrown out, because Windows' retail licenses are transferable and you can use 10 and 11 without a license as it is. Microsoft actively allows people to technically violate their EULA and does nothing about it, so it wouldn't hold up in the court of law.

That's common sense. If they want people to only use it for one machine, then it shouldn't be transferable, and if they didn't want people to use the OS unactivated, then they shouldn't have allowed it. But they don't care, so why the hell should we?

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Ursprungligen skrivet av r.linder:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

If you violate the terms of the software license then that's illegal. Surely you would know better than to write comments in public in the steam forums that encourage people to commit illegal activities ...

Then Microsoft shouldn't have made transferable licenses so their silly EULA would actually mean something...

If you honestly think that Microsoft is going to pursue legal action on the millions of people worldwide that re-use their Windows 7, 10, and 11 licenses when they don't even go after piracy of the OS in general, then that tells people all they need to know that you're just arguing for the sake of it, because if they actually tried that, it would get thrown out, because Windows' retail licenses are transferable and you can use 10 and 11 without a license as it is. Microsoft actively allows people to technically violate their EULA and does nothing about it, so it wouldn't hold up in the court of law.

That's common sense.

I don't want to end up banned for discussing illegal activities in public in the steam forums so I'll go ahead and just stop discussing this now. You may not care about your steam account but I certainly do.

[GigaCars]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Ursprungligen skrivet av r.linder:

Nobody cares what the EULA says, if the license can be reused then people will do so regardless. What's M$ gonna do, sue you?

If you violate the terms of the software license then that's illegal. Surely you would know better than to write comments in public in the steam forums that encourage people to commit illegal activities ...

please don't start another argument again, the wording is prone to sparking a argument which may result in steam locking this again

EDIT: this was posted before steam shown the new comments.. add a automated comment refresh steam

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Ursprungligen skrivet av GigaCars:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

If you violate the terms of the software license then that's illegal. Surely you would know better than to write comments in public in the steam forums that encourage people to commit illegal activities ...

please don't start another argument again, the wording is prone to sparking a argument which may result in steam locking this again

EDIT: this was posted before steam shown the new comments.. add a automated comment refresh steam

What I wrote there is NOT designed to "start an argument". Which also to be perfectly clear: I never have started any arguments in this thread with anyone. As I wrote when I returned to the thread recently: It's other people that chose to respond to my comments with mean and rude words that started everything. I can't control what other people do, say, write, or comment. I can only control my words. My comment that I wrote above is true and factual: If anyone violates Microsoft's EULA by trying to re-activate a retail Windows 7 license on multiple different computers then that is actually illegal. Even discussing doing that (or attempting to encourage other people to do that) is "Discussing illegal activities" in the steam forums. Which they have rules stating not to do that here.

[Crashed]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Master.Constructor:

First Windows 7 update of 2025!
Installing 25.1.15 now. Long live Win7, etc, etc.

How are you updating Windows 7 when Microsoft hasn't released a new update for Windows 7? Did you magically make up your own update code yourself?

Most likely a crack for the Windows Update client components. He only discloses version numbers for the very lowest level kernel files.

[KalGimpa]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Master.Constructor:

First Windows 7 update of 2025!
Installing 25.1.15 now. Long live Win7, etc, etc.

How are you updating Windows 7 when Microsoft hasn't released a new update for Windows 7? Did you magically make up your own update code yourself?

someone has used the windows 7 updates for the industrial versions that still run

things that businesses use 7 to run

to update other version of 7

the problem is that it is just not enough to update the full system

it only updates the base and none of the other things that come with it

not only that, they are using a third party program that is granted root access

you hear people screaming about anti-cheat's access and the like

but at least those are businesses that you can look into

this is from some person(s) chillin on the net

just not something i would be trusting

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Ursprungligen skrivet av KalCuey:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

How are you updating Windows 7 when Microsoft hasn't released a new update for Windows 7? Did you magically make up your own update code yourself?

someone has used the windows 7 updates for the industrial versions that still run

things that businesses use 7 to run

to update other version of 7

the problem is that it is just not enough to update the full system

it only updates the base and none of the other things that come with it

not only that, they are using a third party program that is granted root access

you hear people screaming about anti-cheat's access and the like

but at least those are businesses that you can look into

this is from some person(s) chillin on the net

just not something i would be trusting

That's exactly why I wrote my question: Microsoft has not released any new updates for Windows 7 , only updates for other versions of windows that are not Windows 7. So I asked them how they were able to update Windows 7 when no such updates actually exists. It's quite confusing.

[KalGimpa]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:

Ursprungligen skrivet av KalCuey:

someone has used the windows 7 updates for the industrial versions that still run

things that businesses use 7 to run

to update other version of 7

the problem is that it is just not enough to update the full system

it only updates the base and none of the other things that come with it

not only that, they are using a third party program that is granted root access

you hear people screaming about anti-cheat's access and the like

but at least those are businesses that you can look into

this is from some person(s) chillin on the net

just not something i would be trusting

That's exactly why I wrote my question: Microsoft has not released any new updates for Windows 7 , only updates for other versions of windows that are not Windows 7. So I asked them how they were able to update Windows 7 when no such updates actually exists. It's quite confusing.

they are actually for a windows 7

it just updates to the basic core

none of the other stuff that consumer versions came with

no clue how they are getting it to inject into the consumer copies

been running linux for a while now

but i do know it wants kernel access to do it

[Crashed]

Ursprungligen skrivet av KalCuey:

not only that, they are using a third party program that is granted root access

Admin access anyway, and resetting ownership of protected Windows files, specifically Windows Update Client and WUSA components to alter them.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Ursprungligen skrivet av KalCuey:

they are actually for a windows 7

it just updates to the basic core

none of the other stuff that consumer versions came with

no clue how they are getting it to inject into the consumer copies

been running linux for a while now

but i do know it wants kernel access to do it

You are incorrect. The recent updates released by Microsoft were ONLY for Windows Server 2008. They are NOT updates for Windows 7. There is no new updates for Windows 7. Microsoft has not released a single new update for Windows 7 since January 2024.

[bidulless]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crashed:

Ursprungligen skrivet av KalCuey:

not only that, they are using a third party program that is granted root access

Admin access anyway, and resetting ownership of protected Windows files, specifically Windows Update Client and WUSA components to alter them.

hello
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