The Cozy Win7 Thread

[Nosteru]

Hello Again Fellow Community!

This Thread is about Win7. You can free talk anything about that OS.
Be technical issues you need help, the future and past of the OS, some fun story you want to share, your opinion about it, your advice, useful apps and such.

This is the place for everyone interrested or against Win7.

Just please be polite and try to respect eachother.

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[Master.Constructor]

Crashed původně napsal:

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

That would not work (or at least not be easy), Server 2012 is a different OS, different kernel.

NT Kernel versions:
6.0 - Windows 7 / Server 2008
6.1 - Windows 7 SP1 / Server 2008 R2
6.2 - Windows 8 / Server 2012
6.3 - Windows 8.1 / Server 2012 R2

NT kernel version isn't the same as a product and its associated usage license.

Sure, but I'm saying you're going to have a hard time trying to install an update that wasn't for your kernel (Windows) version. The only thing I'm really interested in Windows 6.1.7601, AKA Windows 7 SP1 (x64).

[Nosteru]

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

Sure, but I'm saying you're going to have a hard time trying to install an update that wasn't for your kernel (Windows) version. The only thing I'm really interested in Windows 6.1.7601, AKA Windows 7 SP1 (x64).

Hello Master.Constructor
Quite off thing from the talk, but have you tried any Unity 6 games yet?
If not yet then please can you test one if it work on your updated Win7?
Like Demo of this:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2352670/Arcadium__Space_Odyssey/

[bidulless]

Nosteru původně napsal:

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

Sure, but I'm saying you're going to have a hard time trying to install an update that wasn't for your kernel (Windows) version. The only thing I'm really interested in Windows 6.1.7601, AKA Windows 7 SP1 (x64).

Hello Master.Constructor
Quite off thing from the talk, but have you tried any Unity 6 games yet?
If not yet then please can you test one if it work on your updated Win7?
Like Demo of this:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2352670/Arcadium__Space_Odyssey/

hello
it will be the same result : it won't work because the function used by the program does not exist into os whatever updatepack @Master.Constructor has been using :
dx12 only fully works on w10+ as exemple and some functions called by the program that are just comming from unknown dll won't work too xd

yesturday i've linked one funny thing about linux haters so let's continue today with a very old stuff , may be older than the linux haters groups but not really sur about the timeline and surely as funny if not more ,)
The Bastard Operator From Hell
https://www.lysator.liu.se/jokes/bofh/bofh_main.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastard_Operator_From_Hell
"Fixed? There's 275 users on your machine, and one of them is you. Don't be so selfish - logout now and give someone else a chance!"

[BionicSeaSerpent]

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

BionicSeaSerpent původně napsal:

they're gonna rely on server 2012 updates next, you watch

That would not work (or at least not be easy), Server 2012 is a different OS, different kernel.

NT Kernel versions:
6.0 - Windows 7 / Server 2008
6.1 - Windows 7 SP1 / Server 2008 R2
6.2 - Windows 8 / Server 2012
6.3 - Windows 8.1 / Server 2012 R2

they're still the same kernel. just with minor updates.

[BionicSeaSerpent]

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

Crashed původně napsal:

NT kernel version isn't the same as a product and its associated usage license.

Sure, but I'm saying you're going to have a hard time trying to install an update that wasn't for your kernel (Windows) version. The only thing I'm really interested in Windows 6.1.7601, AKA Windows 7 SP1 (x64).

you are taking stuff from embedded versions of 7 how is it any different anyway?

[BionicSeaSerpent]

bidulless původně napsal:

BionicSeaSerpent původně napsal:

i didn't say nor imply there were 20+ million steam deck users. i'm saying for a steam box to sell as many as deck, there would possibly be at least 20 million SteamOS users on valve hardware alone. its pretty much going to be safe to assume by this point the steam deck has sold at least/somewhat close to 10 million units. in this case it would simply be like ignoring most of the population of Australia entirely. regardless.
you surely do underestimate the sheer numbers of users when it comes to anything but windows, don't you?
regardless of Biases, SteamOS is here to stay, and its likely to dominate once major support from anticheats is inevitably picked up as windows continues to enshittify (since 2007) and people get fed up with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ associated.
SteamOS is essentially console firmware with a built in desktop at this point. it would definitely convince console gamers (who are in a terminal downspiral cause these consoles are absolute bloody stinkers) to think about picking up PC gaming. if its not everyone, its a sum. and thats just fine.
and then there is the fact that windows handhelds are all ♥♥♥♥ BECAUSE of windows. theres a reason steam deck is the one to pick regardless of Power or battery life, price. its because SteamOS stays way out the way, it allows the hardware to function just like a PS VIta, or a 3DS. and go into sleep without issue. sure you fail to run slop like Fortnite and what not but its a serious pain to deal with windows nonsense when you are looking for a CONSOLE experience.

hello
agree it's a lot more than 300k, no officials numbers but after some checks i've fount the value of 3 millions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Deck#sales so i really under estimated it success
just keep in mind that this 3m of decks are not counted on statcounter web site about os desktop marketshare because it need to use it js and not really sur it's been used here
https://i.postimg.cc/xdqCQS08/Sans-titre.jpg
it's only counted under steam servey
talking about steamos, steam is actively working on it if you check steam news and it's a very good thing i just had hope that valve would make it easier to use it on pc ...
https://store.steampowered.com/news/collection/steam/
we need to see more nativ games running for linux that what we have nowadays ...

you also ignored where valve employees mentioned they had sold "Mutiple millions" and this was quite a few months ago. even longer for the 3 million number. considering that decks have been sold out since then, you really can't deny it would be in the double digit millions after maybe, may of 2025. at the latest. all these, Next gen deck and the sheer number of Linux GAMING machines will become unignorable in due time as they WILL be loosing money.

Secondly, games being native is NOT a requirement. people who know nothing act like it is the be all end all of linux being the future, and while, it WOULD be nice. and will probably happen in due time in the future. Valve did not pull off years of work to make a whole ass compatability tool work extremely well just for it to be completely ignored by people who don't know a thing about how it works. Also. theres ProtonDB, not just steam. protonDB is significatnly more granular and factual than the ratings in the steam store, (and yes that is an issue the HAVE to rectify. but its not 100% high priority or extremely necessary)

[bidulless]

BionicSeaSerpent původně napsal:

bidulless původně napsal:

hello
agree it's a lot more than 300k, no officials numbers but after some checks i've fount the value of 3 millions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Deck#sales so i really under estimated it success
just keep in mind that this 3m of decks are not counted on statcounter web site about os desktop marketshare because it need to use it js and not really sur it's been used here
https://i.postimg.cc/xdqCQS08/Sans-titre.jpg
it's only counted under steam servey
talking about steamos, steam is actively working on it if you check steam news and it's a very good thing i just had hope that valve would make it easier to use it on pc ...
https://store.steampowered.com/news/collection/steam/
we need to see more nativ games running for linux that what we have nowadays ...

you also ignored where valve employees mentioned they had sold "Mutiple millions" and this was quite a few months ago. even longer for the 3 million number. considering that decks have been sold out since then, you really can't deny it would be in the double digit millions after maybe, may of 2025. at the latest. all these, Next gen deck and the sheer number of Linux GAMING machines will become unignorable in due time as they WILL be loosing money.

Secondly, games being native is NOT a requirement. people who know nothing act like it is the be all end all of linux being the future, and while, it WOULD be nice. and will probably happen in due time in the future. Valve did not pull off years of work to make a whole ass compatability tool work extremely well just for it to be completely ignored by people who don't know a thing about how it works. Also. theres ProtonDB, not just steam. protonDB is significatnly more granular and factual than the ratings in the steam store, (and yes that is an issue the HAVE to rectify. but its not 100% high priority or extremely necessary)

hello
i deny nothing i just posted link i've found as arguments and imo you should do the same else it's just a chat with people drinking in a bar and talking about weather ....
because we are not, you like me, people we need to trust just because we exchange trought post, linking sources of arguments is a lot better imo and not time wasting for people reading here.
And anyway even if valve would have sold 5000billions of decks, it would just change data on the steam survey,nothing else ... so it's not something very interresting for talking about os desktop marketshare....

edit :
it's also possible to get the real numbers of steam deck sold ( and not the bs marketing from a random company joe ),no clue how it works in new zeland or if valve still have it company headquarter on usa or in new zeland, but if it's the same as in france, every year each company need to declare balance sheet to the residence state of the company for taxe return and even here with "tax optimatization - thief", it's quite hard to hide the inflows and outflows for productions in term of purchasing materiels needed.
eg :
"hey we have sold 4m of steam deck but only bought 2m amd cpu for theses decks"

we have this kind of service in france where every balance sheet of company can be freely seen...

[bidulless]

BionicSeaSerpent původně napsal:

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

That would not work (or at least not be easy), Server 2012 is a different OS, different kernel.

NT Kernel versions:
6.0 - Windows 7 / Server 2008
6.1 - Windows 7 SP1 / Server 2008 R2
6.2 - Windows 8 / Server 2012
6.3 - Windows 8.1 / Server 2012 R2

they're still the same kernel. just with minor updates.

hello
try to understand how things are working could be here a good start imo
theses minor changes are anought for making some code/program running on os with theses minor changes , not working in a lower os ...
Compatibility is always backward never forward
see i have nothing better to do this morning than wasting my time with you because , it's always fun to read blocked people.

[Master.Constructor]

BionicSeaSerpent původně napsal:

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

Sure, but I'm saying you're going to have a hard time trying to install an update that wasn't for your kernel (Windows) version. The only thing I'm really interested in Windows 6.1.7601, AKA Windows 7 SP1 (x64).

you are taking stuff from embedded versions of 7 how is it any different anyway?

I'm not taking "stuff from embedded", I'm using UpdatePack7 to update my PCs which are all running Windows 7. All the updates contained in UpdatePack7 are developed from Microsoft for Windows 6.1.7601 and are applied as such. It's extremely easy to use and very reliable. I've been using it for about five years now having installed it over 200 times.

[Nikonos]

Will Windows 7 still be alive and kicking in 2025? I bet it will be!

[lailaamell]

Nikonos původně napsal:

Will Windows 7 still be alive and kicking in 2025? I bet it will be!

question is will 10 and 11 be alive in 2025 answer maybe but unlikely

[Master.Constructor]

Nikonos původně napsal:

Will Windows 7 still be alive and kicking in 2025? I bet it will be!

You're darn'd toot'n right it will be! :D

Looking to put together a new Win7 build next year for gaming. Considering an AMD 7500F - 7600X CPU w 32GB.

[bidulless]

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

Nikonos původně napsal:

Will Windows 7 still be alive and kicking in 2025? I bet it will be!

You're darn'd toot'n right it will be! :D

Looking to put together a new Win7 build next year for gaming. Considering an AMD 7500F - 7600X CPU w 32GB.

hello
why not using w10 and some autounattended.xml and some asktoconnect tooks inside it , at least if you choose a recent gpu card you will be able to correctly use it with the last drivers available or why not choose linux ?
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/4511003079825166698/?ctp=27#c591757083455604247
seems no one want to recommand w11 ♥♥♥♥ xd

[Nikonos]

bidulless původně napsal:

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

You're darn'd toot'n right it will be! :D

Looking to put together a new Win7 build next year for gaming. Considering an AMD 7500F - 7600X CPU w 32GB.

hello
why not using w10 and some autounattended.xml and some asktoconnect tooks inside it , at least if you choose a recent gpu card you will be able to correctly use it with the last drivers available or why not choose linux ?
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/4511003079825166698/?ctp=27#c591757083455604247
seems no one want to recommand w11 ♥♥♥♥ xd

Personally because I think Windows 10 is fugly, bloated, messy, and should be history as soon as possible. Like 8, it should never have been released.

(I keep a functioning copy of W11 at hand, just in case things get ugly around Windows 7.)

[Nikonos]

Master.Constructor původně napsal:

Nikonos původně napsal:

Will Windows 7 still be alive and kicking in 2025? I bet it will be!

You're darn'd toot'n right it will be! :D

Looking to put together a new Win7 build next year for gaming. Considering an AMD 7500F - 7600X CPU w 32GB.

Interesting :-) Working on possible new configurations myself.