The Cozy Win7 Thread

[Nosteru]

Hello Again Fellow Community!

This Thread is about Win7. You can free talk anything about that OS.
Be technical issues you need help, the future and past of the OS, some fun story you want to share, your opinion about it, your advice, useful apps and such.

This is the place for everyone interrested or against Win7.

Just please be polite and try to respect eachother.

To Moderators: On this forum OFF-Topic comments are allowed for polite and healthy discussion.

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[r.linder]

Originally posted by Nikonos:

Originally posted by r.linder:

Sometimes people don't actually know what they need, and that's why we end up with situations where Windows has steadily become crap after 7.

True as that may be, most people know exactly what they want. Reliability, user friendly experience and lots of speed.
Let's not retroactively blame 'the users' for MS's continuous bad decision making.

Microsoft wouldn't have gotten where it did if it wasn't for consumers, corporations don't just get big and greedy on their own. It wasn't difficult to predict that Microsoft would get like this, people just refuse to listen.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well the PC community been pushing the switch to Linux come-back line since early 2000s. I still don't see Linux as a total replacement until it gets better with Games. It's an option for many, just not for me, not when comes to Gaming. Not when so many more games need a WinOS based Launcher or using Microsoft Store /Xbox apps. Worldwide you maybe have what like 2% of Gamers using Linux. Not counting Steam Deck

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Well the PC community been pushing the switch to Linux come-back line since early 2000s. I still don't see Linux as a total replacement until it gets better with Games. It's an option for many, just not for me, not when comes to Gaming. Not when so many more games need a WinOS based Launcher or using Microsoft Store /Xbox apps. Worldwide you maybe have what like 2% of Gamers using Linux. Not counting Steam Deck

It's coming, the performance is mostly there, it just needs more developer support

[Nikonos]

Originally posted by r.linder:

Originally posted by Nikonos:

True as that may be, most people know exactly what they want. Reliability, user friendly experience and lots of speed.
Let's not retroactively blame 'the users' for MS's continuous bad decision making.

Microsoft wouldn't have gotten where it did if it wasn't for consumers, corporations don't just get big and greedy on their own. It wasn't difficult to predict that Microsoft would get like this, people just refuse to listen.

Microsoft is where it is because of their in-house decisions.
Blaming customers is a foolish thing to do.

[bidulless]

Originally posted by Nikonos:

Originally posted by r.linder:

Microsoft wouldn't have gotten where it did if it wasn't for consumers, corporations don't just get big and greedy on their own. It wasn't difficult to predict that Microsoft would get like this, people just refuse to listen.

Microsoft is where it is because of their in-house decisions.
Blaming customers is a foolish thing to do.

hello
not completly agree with that ...
in irl the ONLY power we have is linked to a rectangle piece of plastisc also known as credit card and this is the only real power we have and it let mikeysoft beeing where it is now , because we are mostly lazy and have many things to think about and do in irl than just get most of our attention to computers ....
it's easier to follow the mass than walking on other ways ....

[Bad 💀 Motha]

If the game makers could stop making these 3rd party launchers and also anti-cheat installers (since you can embed an anti-cheat into the game files, why have an installer for this) that would really help those games be more Linux friendly

[bidulless]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

If the game makers could stop making these 3rd party launchers and also anti-cheat installers (since you can embed an anti-cheat into the game files, why have an installer for this) that would really help those games be more Linux friendly

hello
no unfortunately because even if doing what you suggest, it won't make game linux native ....
And even with proton that "émulate" windows 50% of the time it beat windows in term of perf so i let you imagine what really can happen if games could have been native coded for linux and do not need proton and such for that ....

[andreasaspenberg575]

most companies do not want to spend time compiling for linux. over time however they might prioritise it, as linux gains popularity compared to windows.

[Nosteru]

Originally posted by bidulless:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

If the game makers could stop making these 3rd party launchers and also anti-cheat installers (since you can embed an anti-cheat into the game files, why have an installer for this) that would really help those games be more Linux friendly

hello
no unfortunately because even if doing what you suggest, it won't make game linux native ....

With Proton as I heard games dont need to be Linux Native. Some said Proton often handle it better than the half baked Native support.

[bidulless]

Originally posted by Nosteru:

Originally posted by bidulless:

hello
no unfortunately because even if doing what you suggest, it won't make game linux native ....

With Proton as I heard games dont need to be Linux Native. Some said Proton often handle it better than the half baked Native support.

hello
exact it "emulate" windows at a cost in term of memory, cpu , etc ..so i let you imagine games beeing linux native xd

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[andreasaspenberg575]

openttd is available as a linux native.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Nikonos:

Originally posted by r.linder:

Microsoft wouldn't have gotten where it did if it wasn't for consumers, corporations don't just get big and greedy on their own. It wasn't difficult to predict that Microsoft would get like this, people just refuse to listen.

Microsoft is where it is because of their in-house decisions.
Blaming customers is a foolish thing to do.

Incorrect. They didn't just get there because they chose to, they were allowed to get there because consumers and government didn't try to stop them.

They wouldn't have become so wealthy if they didn't have a marketable platform.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by bidulless:

Originally posted by Nosteru:

With Proton as I heard games dont need to be Linux Native. Some said Proton often handle it better than the half baked Native support.

hello
exact it "emulate" windows at a cost in term of memory, cpu , etc ..so i let you imagine games beeing linux native xd

There are plenty of instances where there's barely any or literally no loss in performance under Proton, some of my games have ran with better performance under Proton on Linux than they did on Windows, others ran just as well.

All depends on the implementation and your distro, choosing a distro with older packages that isn't targeted purely at performance will result in less performance than Windows.

[Nikonos]

Originally posted by bidulless:

Originally posted by Nikonos:

Microsoft is where it is because of their in-house decisions.
Blaming customers is a foolish thing to do.

hello
not completly agree with that ...
in irl the ONLY power we have is linked to a rectangle piece of plastisc also known as credit card and this is the only real power we have and it let mikeysoft beeing where it is now , because we are mostly lazy and have many things to think about and do in irl than just get most of our attention to computers ....
it's easier to follow the mass than walking on other ways ....

I think you missed the context of what was written.