The Cozy Win7 Thread

[Nosteru]

Hello Again Fellow Community!

This Thread is about Win7. You can free talk anything about that OS.
Be technical issues you need help, the future and past of the OS, some fun story you want to share, your opinion about it, your advice, useful apps and such.

This is the place for everyone interrested or against Win7.

Just please be polite and try to respect eachother.

To Moderators: On this forum OFF-Topic comments are allowed for polite and healthy discussion.

Thanks
Eru

[Nosteru]

İlk olarak andreasaspenberg575 tarafından gönderildi:

windows 8.1 was difficult, though there is ways to get rid of that difficulty. i use an unofficial start meny called vistart, that gives me a windows 7 start menu. it is does hang from time to time however but, when it works, you will not even notice that you are running windows 8.1, unless you check what system you are running.

Classic Shell what Im using on my Win7 can work on Win 8/8.1, even on Win10.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell

[r.linder]

İlk olarak Nosteru tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak 尺.ㄥ丨几ᗪ乇尺 tarafından gönderildi:

Windows 8 was hated mainly because of the start menu being changed and taking up the whole fricking screen, they fixed it with 8.1 so it was barely different from 7 after that

Donno, when I see screnshots on Win 8.1 it seems the same style as Win 8.

It is, the main change is the start menu, not much else actually changed, it was just a stepping stone to fix their mistake

[andreasaspenberg575]

classic shell is not relevant for me, as i only need to change the start menu. vistart does that.

[Nosteru]

Hm, while I searched for Shells I found this NT based OS. Any of you heard about this, even tried it?
ReactOS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS

[Crashed]

İlk olarak Nosteru tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak andreasaspenberg575 tarafından gönderildi:

windows 8.1 was difficult, though there is ways to get rid of that difficulty. i use an unofficial start meny called vistart, that gives me a windows 7 start menu. it is does hang from time to time however but, when it works, you will not even notice that you are running windows 8.1, unless you check what system you are running.

Classic Shell what Im using on my Win7 can work on Win 8/8.1, even on Win10.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell

You'll want this - https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

[Thermal Lance]

İlk olarak Nosteru tarafından gönderildi:

Hm, while I searched for Shells I found this NT based OS. Any of you heard about this, even tried it?
ReactOS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS

It's an interesting project but I hardly see why anyone would remotely try to daily drive that thing.

[r.linder]

İlk olarak Nosteru tarafından gönderildi:

Hm, while I searched for Shells I found this NT based OS. Any of you heard about this, even tried it?
ReactOS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS

The development team still says its in alpha and should really only be used for development and testing reasons, not general use

It's still very much incomplete and way behind even Linux, doesn't even support x64 yet.

[Nosteru]

İlk olarak Thermal Lance tarafından gönderildi:

It's an interesting project but I hardly see why anyone would remotely try to daily drive that thing.

Curiosity, be different. However it might have issue with hardwares, drivers. I dont know if it can run windows based apps. It also look (design) quite dated.

[Nosteru]

İlk olarak 尺.ㄥ丨几ᗪ乇尺 tarafından gönderildi:

The development team still says its in alpha and should really only be used for development and testing reasons, not general use

What mean using for developement and testing? What you want to testing on this even develope?

[r.linder]

İlk olarak Nosteru tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Thermal Lance tarafından gönderildi:

It's an interesting project but I hardly see why anyone would remotely try to daily drive that thing.

Curiosity, be different. However it might have issue with hardwares, drivers. I dont know if it can run windows based apps. It also look (design) quite dated.

It is dated, it doesn't even support x64 and UEFI yet and it probably doesn't have driver support for anything actually recent as the code is basically XP era.

İlk olarak Nosteru tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak 尺.ㄥ丨几ᗪ乇尺 tarafından gönderildi:

The development team still says its in alpha and should really only be used for development and testing reasons, not general use

What mean using for developement and testing. What you want to testing on this even develope?

It's FOSS, so anyone can work on it, and testing applications, it's not for general users like yourself because it's not a usable OS.

[Nosteru]

İlk olarak 尺.ㄥ丨几ᗪ乇尺 tarafından gönderildi:

It is dated, it doesn't even support x64 and UEFI yet and it probably doesn't have driver support for anything actually recent as the code is basically XP era.

It's FOSS, so anyone can work on it, and testing applications, it's not for general users like yourself because it's not a usable OS.

Okay, Thanks R.Linder

[bidulless]

hello
https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2024/09/08/firefox-130-0-128-2-0-esr-und-115-15-0-esr-als-letzte-115er-version/
hehe till march 2025 xd
https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr

[r.linder]

If you need programs that only run on Windows then your best bet is to dual-boot, so you'd use Windows for whatever programs you need (i.e. software that has no FOSS alternative that works for you) and your chosen Linux distribution for everything else

[Nosteru]

İlk olarak 尺.ㄥ丨几ᗪ乇尺 tarafından gönderildi:

If you need programs that only run on Windows then your best bet is to dual-boot, so you'd use Windows for whatever programs you need (i.e. software that has no FOSS alternative that works for you) and your chosen Linux distribution for everything else

I dont wanted to try or use ReactOS. I was just curious.
I dont want dual boot much. Maybe at the beginning of my migration.
When I settle in Mint I will use that. I can see over time Linux get better and better. Was a big concern that games not ran on Linux well, but this not an issue anymore, thanks to Valve Proton and such.

[r.linder]

İlk olarak Nosteru tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak 尺.ㄥ丨几ᗪ乇尺 tarafından gönderildi:

If you need programs that only run on Windows then your best bet is to dual-boot, so you'd use Windows for whatever programs you need (i.e. software that has no FOSS alternative that works for you) and your chosen Linux distribution for everything else

I dont wanted to try or use ReactOS. I was just curious.
I dont want dual boot much. Maybe at the beginning of my migration.
When I settle in Mint I will use that. I can see over time Linux get better and better. Was a big concern that games not ran on Linux well, but this not an issue anymore, thanks to Valve Proton and such.

There's still a difference in performance as some distros like Mint are more focused on stability and compatibility rather than raw performance, distros like Mint and Pop!_OS are usually behind Windows in gaming performance whereas others like Nobara Linux and Arch Linux are ahead of Windows in gaming performance.

Distros like Mint are good but I would classify them as stepping stones for people who are looking for something more. For people who just want something that works (unlike Windows 8+) and aren't concerned about making the most of their hardware, there's nothing wrong with Mint, but it's definitely something to consider if you value the performance of your machine in regards to gaming, because it's essentially leaving performance off the table with newer machines.

Start with Mint or Pop!_OS, decide if it's enough, and if it isn't then slowly work your way into more performance focused distros, and if you get current generation hardware, you basically need a rolling release distro like Arch as LTS distros like Mint can lack drivers depending on when the hardware released and the last time that the OS was updated. For older machines, especially 10+ year old hardware, Mint xfce4 is best, Cinnamon will work fine too.