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We will also see new CPU generations and there will be AMD GPU´s (albeit its suggested that those will all be worse than the 5080, meaning AMD will as usual, rule the entry + mid tier and Nvidia, High tier brackets)
I don´t think monitors are a good investment right now either, mainly because we see more and more trials with OLED (it might still be in there) but many of the prices for good ie. IPS monitors are abit pricey atm.
Unless you only care about low res and high hz (there are plenty of good cheap products for that) I agree that a perfect middle is a 165hz (fast) isp monitor in 1440p.
Again overall. I don´t think its a good time for investing in a new setup.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
Is it about your setup and if we think your setup is any good or do you want to recommend your setup to people who want to buy a system now?
Or is it just about talking about the best setup to buy right now in general?
I think its the latter, that is how I read it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jdHDRK
Green / blue team build
Thermaltake tower 900 black
Asus z790 apex
96gb DDR5 dominator 8000mhz
5x 4tb 990 pro
2x 2.5 sata ssd ( backups )
Intel 14900ks
2x rtx 4090 asus
rog thor 1600w x2
all fans lian li inf
all running custom water loops EKWB
more RGB than you can dream of
Red build
nearly the same but with a threadripper and a 7900xtx
My work desktop is a custom 8 pack pc that cost more than a tesla.
12th gen intel meets or beats any traditional AM4 processor at around same price for the mostpart with better upgrade prospects, and the price differential between the cheapest motherboards shown on P.C. part picker is only $10, which makes the forward facing prospects of the newer socket more appealing. Yes, AM4 and L.G.A. 1700 are both effectively dead platforms, but 14th gen. intel has a fuller potential than what is likely this last round of AM4 chips.
The main reason to go AM4 in a made-from-scratch build is for the bottom of the stack (3000g, 4500, 5500) since the 12100f doesn't really compete well in that bracket. Maybe the 3D V-cache chips offer a better value proposition since it's harder to make direct comparisons with those with raw benchmarks. However when the 7800x3d is only $10 more than the 5800x3d on Amazon and Newegg, that's also a bit of a tough sell. The 5700x3D offers an appealing value proposition at $120 less though.
The only other comment I have to say is that it's hard to tell if the 5900x is better than the 7700x for productivity tasks or not since I'm getting conflicting reports on that. It's kind of important since both are around the same price.
Otherwise AM4 is mostly just appealing to upgraders because discarding your current motherboard only to buy a new one represents a loss in value and an incurred cost. Future proofing is less of a concern if you haven't fully exhausted your upgrade path.
The only way any of this potentially changes is if AM4 gets a swan song with 6000 series desktop processors, but it seems rather unlikely. It's more likely these newly released sidegrade chips are going to be the socket's swan song.
Total market share is not analogous to "this is an accurate representation of what people would prefer". If you wanted to try and come closer to knowing what people prefer (and even this might not be good enough), you would want to look not at total market share, but at individual CPU sales.
But why are we even using the fallacy of "appeal to the masses" as a replacement for having our own foundation for whatever our stance is to begin with?
Tell me, what has Steam's Hardware Survey to do with a global "total market share"?
It is funny how you try to turn words and facts and to defend this AMD crap . . .
And to already counter your next upcoming "lie" and intended confusion to this community:
For example, on May 2024 there been 15.96% AMD GPU users on Steam and 76.18% NVIDIA GPU users. It doesn't matter if 100% of all Steam users participate into this survey, 99% or 10% . . . this wont change anything to this result and values.
If 100% of Steam users participate into this survey or just 10%, it still gonna be 15.96% AMD GPU users on Steam and 76.18% NVIDIA GPU users on Steam on May 2024 . . .
It is a calculated percentage . . .
Same goes with CPUs. On May 2024 there been 34.64% AMD CPU users on Steam and 65.36% Intel CPU users on Steam. If 100% of Steam users had participated or just 10% or 5% or even 0.05%, this wont change this percentage result. It still would be 34.64% AMD CPU users on Steam and 65.36% Intel CPU users on Steam . . .
And all of this surely has NOTHING to do with a global total market share . . . as it is just a percentage and result "on Steam" . . . !!
Alone this mentioned fact about Steam's HW Survey, and even if it is completely false or untrue negates your comment . . .
If there isn't a language barrier, then cut the nonsense. You made a statement saying "no thanks" to a particular brand and linked to Steam's hardware survey results. So you tell me, if it wasn't to suggest that brand as a lesser option because it has less market share per Steam, then what was it?
I reasonably presumed that's what you were doing though. In response, I...
1. Called this "appeal to the masses" fallacy out for what it is.
2. Told you that the data you used doesn't even support the thing you were trying to use it for (and explained why), and told you what data you'd need to use instead for that.
Either one of those things on their own renders your argument null. But sure, pretend to get hung up on "total market share" instead of "Steam market share" like it changes anything.
I didn't even defend AMD. What I did was question your reasoning. And wow oh my did that seem to upset you. Don't get upset at others for poking holes into weak implications. Maybe strengthen your arguments instead. I was even giving you information as to what would do that, funny enough.