Is water cooling better than air cooling?

[Belle Delphine Targaryen!]

Like the AIOs that are seen everywhere these days?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 10Transistor:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Bad 💀 Motha:

It's not water FFS

What ever it exactly is, it still leaks and I don’t want anything leaking in my box of electronics. My opinion only.

This is stupid fears people have. And if you use an AIO LC you pretty much have no chance of a leak unless you've allowed the AIO to be abused or physically damaged

[Win2000Fan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย r.linder:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 10Transistor:

What ever it exactly is, it still leaks and I don’t want anything leaking in my box of electronics. My opinion only.

Whatever you doomsayers preach, it's nothing but fearmongering. It's rare for closed loop coolers to leak, and if you stick to trusted brands and highly reputed models, it's literally fine. I've had over half a dozen AIOs and not a single one sprung a leak and all but one lasted years, the only one that didn't was because of a defect in the coolant itself, MSI's Coreliquid 360R.

There are facts and opinions. It’s your opinion I am a doomsayer, fear monger even though I am stating a fact that electricity and water do not mix. I would not recommend you testing my fact on yourself to prove my fact wrong. I thought water cooling in computers was a huge mistake years ago when I first read about it. I thought for sure some smart people in electronics would come out and say how stupid an idea it was. Well a few did but not enough to make an impact on the computer industry and before you knew it everyone was and still is doing it. I guess you’re one of those who thinks it’s okay to use a hair dryer in a bathtub. I know you want to say they are not the same thing. Oh but they are but the tub example will get you killed the other example gets you what happened to dutchgamer1982 in his response right below yours.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 10Transistor:

It’s your opinion I am a doomsayer, fear monger even though I am stating a fact that electricity and water do not mix. I would not recommend you testing my fact on yourself to prove my fact wrong. I thought water cooling in computers was a huge mistake years ago when I first read about it. I thought for sure some smart people in electronics would come out and say how stupid an idea it was. Well a few did but not enough to make an impact on the computer industry and before you knew it everyone was and still is doing it. I guess you’re one of those who thinks it’s okay to use a hair dryer in a bathtub. I know you want to say they are not the same thing. Oh but they are but the tub example will get you killed the other example gets you what happened to dutchgamer1982 in his response right below yours.

Why are you even here then if all you're going to do is complain and be combative.

[Holografix]

Water and electricity don't mix.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

More like Idiots & Water don't mix

But again, it's not water. If it was, it would never be safe to use for cooling PC.

[The_Abortionator]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Bad 💀 Motha:

It's not water FFS

Its literally water.

[The_Abortionator]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Bad 💀 Motha:

More like Idiots & Water don't mix

But again, it's not water. If it was, it would never be safe to use for cooling PC.

Its water. Its factually water, just because you lack understanding and the ability to read and use google doesn't change that.

Its literally water. Thats why its called WATER COOLING.

[The_Abortionator]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Holografix:

Water and electricity don't mix.

Well ye, which is why you keep the water in the loop and not on the components.

[The_Abortionator]

Yes water cooling is "better" but only if you need it. If you aren't hitting high enough wattage or not building an SFF that requires it then its not as recommended.

[Win2000Fan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Bad 💀 Motha:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 10Transistor:

It’s your opinion I am a doomsayer, fear monger even though I am stating a fact that electricity and water do not mix. I would not recommend you testing my fact on yourself to prove my fact wrong. I thought water cooling in computers was a huge mistake years ago when I first read about it. I thought for sure some smart people in electronics would come out and say how stupid an idea it was. Well a few did but not enough to make an impact on the computer industry and before you knew it everyone was and still is doing it. I guess you’re one of those who thinks it’s okay to use a hair dryer in a bathtub. I know you want to say they are not the same thing. Oh but they are but the tub example will get you killed the other example gets you what happened to dutchgamer1982 in his response right below yours.

Why are you even here then if all you're going to do is complain and be combative.

This is my opinion but it’s not my opinion that electricity and water do not mix. That is a scientific fact. Water does not belong in a box of electronics. Just because I do not agree with you does not mean I am being combative it means I do not agree with you. If you want to go on thinking water belongs in a box of electronics, that’s cool and I am fine with that. I don’t think you’re being combative.

[Win2000Fan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Holografix:

Water and electricity don't mix.

Amen. So there are others that do understand.

[r.linder]

And like the thread topic isn't even about if you should or shouldn't use liquid cooling, it's asking whether or not it's better than air cooling, and it objectively is because of the cooling capacity is higher, the best air coolers really only beat 240mm CLCs and match a lot of quality 280mm CLCs, but if you're using a top of the line machine, an air cooler is literally not going to do the job unless you limit the power consumption and performance of the CPU, and the manufacturers literally recommend using liquid cooling because the results are better.

Soon as this thread popped up, I knew it was going to get taken over by air cooler cultists that want to scare people away from using liquid coolers because "WATER BAD!!11"

[_I_]

clc uses coolant, not water
its 'liquid' cooler, not 'water' cooler

the coolant has additives that make it stable and mixed and better at transferring heat better and able to hold more heat

[Tiberius]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Holografix:

Water and electricity don't mix.

Zero risk of leaking is always better than small risk of leaking.

And for gaming, cpu rarely needs to run all cores at full load, which makes liquid cooling even more pointless

[Skkooomer Lord]

I had a Coolit ECO ALC start leaking on my old AMD Phenom II system, it destroyed it's self. (DEAD)

I had a Corsair H100's pump stop working on the Intel Core i5 2500K system. (SOLD)

I have had a Coolermaster Seidon 240mm that worked well on my Intel XEON E5640 system (SOLD).

My current system is a 5800X3D with RX 7900 XT, I originally bought a EK 360 AIO and it was one of if not the best performing ones... it blocked airflow to the GPU way too much.

Ended up replacing it with a Thermalright PA SE which is 95% the performance of that AIO for like 25% the cost.

No way I am going back to water now.