IPv6 can go die a death of non-relevance.

[Kaffe Kane]

Why is it that the Steam Deck can connect to IPv6 in Desktop Mode just fine, but Steam itself doesn't wanna? Freaking weird, is what that is.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You usually never need IPV6 for online connections, just IPV4

Try configuring WIFI router and manually change the DNS for IPV4 and IPV6 to use the DNS from Google or Cloudflare

[Zygfryd]

I don't see Steam's domains having AAAA records, doesn't look like they support IPv6.

[Crashed]

Originally posted by Rexali_:

Very soon, IPv4 will be memory, just like floppy disks. Every valid IPv4 was finished before 2010. Now organizations only rent their valid IP's. There is nothing to buy. The reason is that devices that use IP's are too many now. Back in the day, there were only computers.

Now there are many devices, like smartphones, gadgets, consoles, TVs, music players, etc., that use IP. IPv6 has 8 sections of 16 bits and, overall, 128 bits of letters and numbers. It's very hard to read, but It won't finish any time soon.

To make it easier for assigning private IPv6, you can skip the middle bits. It's like 192.168.1.1 in IPv4 can be 2001::1 in IPv6. When you put two colons, it means you skipped the middle bits and filled it with 0.

BTW, most of the client users don't use valid IPs at all. Most of the IP addresses you are using come from your ISP via NAT and PAT forwarding, unless you request from your ISP to rent an IP static.

A local IPv6 would be more like fdxx:xxxx:xxxx::x as LAN IPv6 addresses are in the range of fd00::/8.

A lot of fixed ISPs still use dynamically allocated IP addresses, with CGNAT more commonly seen in mobile ISPs.

[_I_]

actually many isps give static ip to clients, no random on every router reboot

[Lord Flashheart]

Originally posted by Kaffe Kane:

Why is it that the Steam Deck can connect to IPv6 in Desktop Mode just fine, but Steam itself doesn't wanna? Freaking weird, is what that is.

IPv4 will be the one to die a death.
There are only so many addresses.
Straight forward supply & demand will mean IPv6 will eventually be the economical choice.

The question is when.

[Crashed]

Originally posted by _I_:

actually many isps give static ip to clients, no random on every router reboot

Spectrum where I live just has long leases. Typically I get a new IPv4 after a multi-day power outage since the Spectrum equipment also loses power and I can't even go online on generator power.

[The_Abortionator]

I'm tired of kids freaking out and not understanding things. No IPV6 is not to blame, its not going to die, and its FAR from irrelevant.

Please, read and learn before posting such insane threads.

[Viking2121]

Whats sad is Centurylink, a IPS here in the states still don't natively support ipv6 on their fiber stuff and DLS stuff.

Originally posted by Crashed:

Originally posted by _I_:

actually many isps give static ip to clients, no random on every router reboot

Spectrum where I live just has long leases. Typically I get a new IPv4 after a multi-day power outage since the Spectrum equipment also loses power and I can't even go online on generator power.

For me I've had the same IP with spectrum for over 2 years now lol

[Kaffe Kane]

Originally posted by The_Abortionator:

I'm tired of kids freaking out and not understanding things. No IPV6 is not to blame, its not going to die, and its FAR from irrelevant.

Please, read and learn before posting such insane threads.

And what is there to read?

I had been trying for the past month to get my Deck, as well as my Switch AND my 3DS to use my phone's mobile hotspot, and found out a couple days before this post even started that it was because of the default APN settings on my phone, which used IPv6.

I had to make a separate one that used IPv4, and all of a sudden everything is fine again.

So, what would I actually be missing here? If Steam itself won't use IPv6 from my hotspot, but WILL use IPv4, I'm going to call out against the lack of support for IPv6, even if it's simplistic and "childish" of me.

[The_Abortionator]

Originally posted by Kaffe Kane:

Originally posted by The_Abortionator:

I'm tired of kids freaking out and not understanding things. No IPV6 is not to blame, its not going to die, and its FAR from irrelevant.

Please, read and learn before posting such insane threads.

And what is there to read?

I had been trying for the past month to get my Deck, as well as my Switch AND my 3DS to use my phone's mobile hotspot, and found out a couple days before this post even started that it was because of the default APN settings on my phone, which used IPv6.

I had to make a separate one that used IPv4, and all of a sudden everything is fine again.

So, what would I actually be missing here? If Steam itself won't use IPv6 from my hotspot, but WILL use IPv4, I'm going to call out against the lack of support for IPv6, even if it's simplistic and "childish" of me.

You read standards. Read the white papers for what IPv6 is. That way you become smart enough to not made such embarrassing posts.


And no, you didn't call out a lack of support you said it was "non-relevant" which is not bright to say the least as its better in every way.

If you DID call Steam out that would be one thing but you didn't. AT ALL. Instead you suggested IPv^ should "die" which makes ZERO sense.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Rexali_:

Very soon, IPv4 will be memory, just like floppy disks. Every valid IPv4 was finished before 2010. Now organizations only rent their valid IP's. There is nothing to buy. The reason is that devices that use IP's are too many now. Back in the day, there were only computers.

Now there are many devices, like smartphones, gadgets, consoles, TVs, music players, etc., that use IP. IPv6 has 8 sections of 16 bits and, overall, 128 bits of letters and numbers. It's very hard to read, but It won't finish any time soon.

To make it easier for assigning private IPv6, you can skip the middle bits. It's like 192.168.1.1 in IPv4 can be 2001::1 in IPv6. When you put two colons, it means you skipped the middle bits and filled it with 0.

BTW, most of the client users don't use valid IPs at all. Most of the IP addresses you are using come from your ISP via NAT and PAT forwarding, unless you request from your ISP to rent an IP static.

Not really. IPv4 would have died years again if that were the case. They found work around for IPv4 which is why we are still using it a decade or more after it was supposed to have died out.

[Crashed]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by Rexali_:

Very soon, IPv4 will be memory, just like floppy disks. Every valid IPv4 was finished before 2010. Now organizations only rent their valid IP's. There is nothing to buy. The reason is that devices that use IP's are too many now. Back in the day, there were only computers.

Now there are many devices, like smartphones, gadgets, consoles, TVs, music players, etc., that use IP. IPv6 has 8 sections of 16 bits and, overall, 128 bits of letters and numbers. It's very hard to read, but It won't finish any time soon.

To make it easier for assigning private IPv6, you can skip the middle bits. It's like 192.168.1.1 in IPv4 can be 2001::1 in IPv6. When you put two colons, it means you skipped the middle bits and filled it with 0.

BTW, most of the client users don't use valid IPs at all. Most of the IP addresses you are using come from your ISP via NAT and PAT forwarding, unless you request from your ISP to rent an IP static.

Not really. IPv4 would have died years again if that were the case. They found work around for IPv4 which is why we are still using it a decade or more after it was supposed to have died out.

Because a lot of ISP provided IOv4 addresses in many regions and/or services are NAT. My mobile data has an IP address in the 10.0.0.0/8 range. My cable ISP however does provide a dynamic, Internet-routable IPv4 address via DHCP.

[N3tRunn3r]

IPv4 addresses are limited to this world already, every IPv4 addresses are being reserved and used already. So, the "real" IP addresses are exhausted / depletetd !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion

Without IPv6, this world would not run anymore. IPv6 supports up to 3.4×10^38 addresses, and therefore has been the future for quiet some time already . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6

[Lixire]

Just because your device can get an IPv6 address and access the internet with it. doesn't mean that every service supports it.
Different ISPs around the world already do supply IPv6 addresses as IPv4 is coming to its end due to the lack of available addresses to allocate therefore spiking the price for an address massively.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Crashed:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Not really. IPv4 would have died years again if that were the case. They found work around for IPv4 which is why we are still using it a decade or more after it was supposed to have died out.

Because a lot of ISP provided IOv4 addresses in many regions and/or services are NAT. My mobile data has an IP address in the 10.0.0.0/8 range. My cable ISP however does provide a dynamic, Internet-routable IPv4 address via DHCP.

That's the point. They can translate publlic addresses to local addresses and back again, so IPv4 continues to be dominant.