What do you think of x70 gpus from nvidia now at days?

[Tralalero Tralala]

I still have this idea from the 600-900 series days that they are supposed to the best bang for buck and offer somewhat premium performance at a more reasonable price. i do this out of habit every 2-3 generations of gpu.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

4070 Super and 4070 Ti Super are both decent options for 1440p gaming. Just wish they were at least $100 cheaper.

[Tralalero Tralala]

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

4070 Super and 4070 Ti Super are both decent options for 1440p gaming. Just wish they were at least $100 cheaper.

yeah i recently got a 4070 ti super. moreso for cuda training than 1440p gaming because 16gb vram is decent for ai models

[Tomi Montana]

Quite overpriced.
The last good x70 tier gpu was the 1070 back in 2016.
2070 was a scam, 3070 was never available and was low on vram, 4070 isnt really that good unless found for good price, 4070 super is decent apart from the high price tag and memory constraints.
However, these gpu are ok to buy when found for the right price. The 3070 seems to be the easiest one to find, usually going around 250e on the second hand market which is good price actually.
Surely miss the old days when corporate greed was not so rampant.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

4070 Super and 4070 Ti Super are very good, well worth it.

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by Ervil Lebaron:

I still have this idea from the 600-900 series days that they are supposed to the best bang for buck and offer somewhat premium performance at a more reasonable price. i do this out of habit every 2-3 generations of gpu.

The x70 has never been the best price for performance though outside of the Maxwell (GTX 900) series. In every other generation (not counting the latest one, which I'll get to in a minute), it's been the unpopular middle child, and here's why.

The flagship (x80 before recently) gave you 100% of the performance of that generation.

The x50 used to give you entry level performance, and this typically ended up being around a quarter of the performance of the flagship.

Going from the x50 to x60 doubled performance give or take. To double performance again, you had to go from the x60 to x80. So the x70 was... not as big of a jump. And to make it worse, it lost in value to the x60.

In other words, this who wanted value and great performance, chose the x60.

Those who wanted the best performance at no cost, chose the x80.

And those who wanted to spend the least possible but still have competent enough performance, chose the x50.

Where does that leave the x70? Well, there's certainly a price gap between the x60 and x80 so it needs filled, so it wasn't useless... but it's never been the best value. Worse, sometimes the x80 beat it in value, despite supposedly being the "best performance at any cost" product. The RTX 30 series comes to mind.

Now... this generation it's different. The RTX 4070 is a fine product, and here's why. It's actually filling the spot the x60 used to. While x90 returned last generation, it wasn't much faster than the x80. This generation, however, the x80 is very cut down from the x90. So the product that represents what the x60 used to is the x70.

In other words, the x70 is good this generation... because it's actually an x60. And the RTX 4060 is a glorified x50 Ti. That's why it has a quarter of the performance of the flagship, 128-bit bus, low VRAM, etc.

This was all intentional. Instead of the x60 and x80 being popular, they introduce a new tier to get consumers to accept a higher price.

TL;DR: The RTX 4070s are all fine now (the RTX 4070 Ti at launch MSRP was very mediocre though, and right now arguably the RTX 4070 vanilla is the best value in the tier despite being a bit weaker than its Super replacement). But the x70 tier in general has traditionally been rather mediocre. Maxwell (GTX 900 series) and Ada (RTX 40 series) are the only exceptions where the x70 was truly worth picking up. In every other generation, the options flanking it on both sides made it pretty lackluster.

[_I_]

^ pretty much this


x50 isnt for current games at gpu release
x60 is entry level, best price/ performance
x70 better performance at a cost
x80 higher end enthusiast
x90 often for rendering jobs or other tasks to make money

[r.linder]

They're good, just not competitive enough with AMD, currently the 7800-XT is cheaper and faster than the 4070

[Agent]

The 4070 is still good value. It's the 60 series that has died. The 4060 is still an awful GPU which really should be a 4050.

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei]

70 super, 70 ti, 70 sutiper, 70 titan, 70 supertitanti
nvidia being goofy as usual

[Χάρης]

They are advertised for 1440p gaming but they can't really do it on some newer titles. Also overpriced in my opinion.

[Dutchgamer1982]

x50 is for office use
x60 is budgetgaming and should cost around 200 euro including VAT and should deliver about halve the performance of an x70.
x70 is midttier gaming and should cost around 350 euro including VAT and should be the best bang for buck
x80 is upper midter gaming and should cost around 500 euro and offer about 30% more peformance than an x70.
x80ti is highend gaming, and should cost around 700 euro and offer around 50% more peformance than an x70
x90 (or titan as it used to be called) is extreme highend should cost 1100 euro and offer about twice the performance of an x70.

all the other ti and super versions are fluff in the lineup that should not excist.

x80ti and x90 should use 250w
x80 should use 150w
x70 should use 120w
x60 should use 100w
x50 should use 80w

each generation should add about 40% performance
(so an 5070 should have performance thats in between an 4080 and 4080ti)
and per 2 generations performance should be doubled

this also means that an 6070 should performance wise be equal to an 4090 now but using only halve the power and costing only a third.

sadly starting with the 3000 series.. this model that was how things worked for 2 decades.. has been ruined..

[Corona Scurrae]

overpriced, glorified 1080p cards that will become obsolete once games require 12gb vram to run but who cares nvidia is big right now.

[Dutchgamer1982]

still aside costing way to much.. and using way to much electricity...

a 4070 still is about ont he same performance as an 2080ti was.. and thus yes it is a midrange card.

it just is priced where highend cards used to be priced.. and used power like highend cards used to draw..

[Corona Scurrae]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

x50 is for office use
x60 is budgetgaming and should cost around 200 euro including VAT and should deliver about halve the performance of an x70.
x70 is midttier gaming and should cost around 350 euro including VAT and should be the best bang for buck
x80 is upper midter gaming and should cost around 500 euro and offer about 30% more peformance than an x70.
x80ti is highend gaming, and should cost around 700 euro and offer around 50% more peformance than an x70
x90 (or titan as it used to be called) is extreme highend should cost 1100 euro and offer about twice the performance of an x70.

all the other ti and super versions are fluff in the lineup that should not excist.

x80ti and x90 should use 250w
x80 should use 150w
x70 should use 120w
x60 should use 100w
x50 should use 80w

each generation should add about 40% performance
(so an 5070 should have performance thats in between an 4080 and 4080ti)
and per 2 generations performance should be doubled

this also means that an 6070 should performance wise be equal to an 4090 now but using only halve the power and costing only a third.

sadly starting with the 3000 series.. this model that was how things worked for 2 decades.. has been ruined..

I doubt 6070 will come close to 4090 performance. unless tsmc 2nm delivers some insane performance but I also doubt nvidia will opt for 2nm for 6000 series. I think it's going to be 3nm and we might see 2nm in 7000 series.

keep in mind that the big boys will gobble up every 2nm spot available at release, which is apparently going to be second half of 2025

[skOsH♥]

x70 seemed to always be a miss for being what I actually needed when using those tier cards

Only one I found bang for my buck was the 970 way back in the day if that one counted. Only played counter strike anyway essentially