Copper line = packet loss ?

[july]

okay packet loss has been an issue for me for years! i've ask my dad to change to fibre optic but he didnt even budge, i've read online multiple people with the same plan have the same problem for years too! Is it copper line or ISP fault ?

[Cathulhu]

That entirely depends on where exactly the packet loss happens.
Doesn't matter if it's copper or fiber.

[Omega]

The fact that you are on a copper connection is not the direct reason for package loss. You just have a poor connection to whatever you are trying to connect to.

The cause for this poor connection can be various things.
- Overcrowded network (Local or external)
- Outdated network infrastructure
- Damaged/oxidized cables/connectors (Local or external)

The most likely cause is something outside of your control. The only thing you can do is complain to the ISP that your connection is unstable.

To switch to fibre you first need to have a fibre connection running to your house. Either you wait for your ISP to do this themselves or you pay them a lot of money to lay the cables just for you.

[Washell]

Do a traceroute to see where the packetloss happens. If it's in your house (step 1 and on rare occasions step 2), it's fixable by you. Any further steps are out on the internet and beyond your control and only (potentially) fixed by switching ISPs.

https://www.hellotech.com/guide/for/how-to-run-a-traceroute-windows-10

[_I_]

pingbomb the modem, rouiter and isp to see where the loss is coming from

tracert google.com to get ips for router, modem and first hop at isp

ping -t (ip)
hit ctrl c to stop and sho min/max/avg/loss
closest hop with loss or sipkes is the problem

[Electric Cupcake]

Tracert is fine. Nmap or the Zenmap gui is easier to grok.

[Set-115689]

would reducing mtu size reduce loss? No idea.

[_I_]

Originally posted by Crosseyed Mie:

Tracert is fine. Nmap or the Zenmap gui is easier to grok.

tracert will just ping each node once
use that to get the ip address to pingbomb

for the firrst 3 nodes
ping -t ip

then go til you get loss, and see which ones get a higher max ping or loss

[Peace]

Originally posted by _I_:

pingbomb the modem, rouiter and isp to see where the loss is coming from

tracert google.com to get ips for router, modem and first hop at isp

ping -t (ip)
hit ctrl c to stop and sho min/max/avg/loss
closest hop with loss or sipkes is the problem

can confirm this works the internet guy came over and told us where the signal is weak and copper wire confirmed.