EXPO 6000 crash without recording bluescreen event

[Kitchen Gun (TM)]

I just built an AMD system with 6000MHz memory, but just watching youtube it crashed 3 times in a week. I figure switching to the XMP profile running at a higher voltage 1.35V would improve stability? EXPO runs at 1.2V.

edit more context: It plays games like a dream I'm just afraid my system would crash in the middle of something important. Running XMP 6000 fine so far, the box says it's suppose to be 6000MHz memory.

[emoticorpse]

If it keeps crashing, disable memory context restore and see if that helps. Be warned your boot times will probably take a bit longer, but in my case that's what I need for stability.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Use the XMP profile, as DDR5-6000 should run at 1.35V

Monitor thermals for cpu and gpu.
You can configure MSI Afterburner to show cpu and gpu temp as ## icons in notification bar area.

Disable Driver Updates for Windows Updates

Download and install latest AMD AM5 Ryzen Chipset Driver from amd.com

[_I_]

also update bios, if you have not already
get the correct one from mobo mfg site for that board

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

If it keeps crashing, disable memory context restore and see if that helps. Be warned your boot times will probably take a bit longer, but in my case that's what I need for stability.

By the way, apparently there's some another setting (or even two) which need changed on some BIOS/motherboards when Expo is enabled with memory context restore.

This might be a weird post to add since...

1. I don't know the settings.

2. It was something I read from a few Reddit comments when researching something else entirely.

...But since the subject came up, I remember you saying you had BSODs with Expo enabled and reading those comments made me think of when you said that. So there might be some other settings to play with if you want to try and get Expo working but to keep memory context restore enabled.

Rumors are Zen 5 might launch as early as July (if not later this year) so the X3D will likely be late this year at the earliest, or even early next year, and I'll likely go to AM5 with that. I'm hoping stability of higher RAM capacities at higher speeds is better on DDR5/AM5 by then. Rumors are pointing to new chipsets although the I/O die is supposed to be similar to Zen 4 (?) so I'm not sure if I should expect that or not. But I've been trying to pick up on familiarizing myself with some subjects beforehand and that was one I found.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

If it keeps crashing, disable memory context restore and see if that helps. Be warned your boot times will probably take a bit longer, but in my case that's what I need for stability.

By the way, apparently there's some another setting (or even two) which need changed on some BIOS/motherboards when Expo is enabled with memory context restore.

This might be a weird post to add since...

1. I don't know the settings.

2. It was something I read from a few Reddit comments when researching something else entirely.

...But since the subject came up, I remember you saying you had BSODs with Expo enabled and reading those comments made me think of when you said that. So there might be some other settings to play with if you want to try and get Expo working but to keep memory context restore enabled.

Rumors are Zen 5 might launch as early as July (if not later this year) so the X3D will likely be late this year at the earliest, or even early next year, and I'll likely go to AM5 with that. I'm hoping stability of higher RAM capacities at higher speeds is better on DDR5/AM5 by then. Rumors are pointing to new chipsets although the I/O die is supposed to be similar to Zen 4 (?) so I'm not sure if I should expect that or not. But I've been trying to pick up on familiarizing myself with some subjects beforehand and that was one I found.

Thanks for the heads up. Funny enough, my system had been stable for a long while up until like a month ago if I remember correctly. Not soon ago, not long ago. It coincided with a bios update I just decided to do along with some other firmware updates on other stuff.

When I remembered, I think bios was set to defaults which would mean the annoying setting was switched back on. But, so I ended up getting one more blue screen (btw, these are the friendly blue screens collecting information). Thing is, I also updated a bunch of drivers at the same time so they're updated and I suspect an upddated LAN driver has something to do with it along with me enabling Wi-Fi because doing that makes the bluescreens happen more, or at least that's how I remember it.

So my current attempt at a fix for this is disabling fast startup in Windows settings, but currently hard to tell since this last blue screen took a while to show itself. I hope I'm on the right path. Might check other settings in bios in a bit, but for now it's not a big enough deal to worry about. I'll take it to heart whenever I feel like wiping and doing a fresh install.

[Iron Knights]

Gulag Tuber vs Engineering. Ok, let's get to the engineering since you covered the first part:
1) Your CPU determines your MAX stable XMP speed, not your Motherboard.
2) 10% gains in Ram speed equates to overall 1% system speed improvement, lower CAS/CL timings will provide more performance than OC/UC in modern systems. Neither justify the instability brought on by these wrong methods.
3) Any new build, you run memtestx64, after you have your Bios setup and before installing OS. Yes, unstable RAM can cause corrupted OS files installed. Once you have the HW stable you need to wipe drive and re-install fresh.

[Kitchen Gun (TM)]

It just crashed an hour after waking up this morning in XMP 6000 mode as well. the cpu was basically idling watching youtube or sitting with firefox open

[Malygos]

Ram or board I tapped out on am5. I've built every pc I've owned and I'm tired of this dumbass platform and took it to a shop to let them deal with it. Crashes in some games not in others, crashes while idling get stuck on ram light for weeks and randomly works again.

These am5 boards are just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ then the ram is pushed to the edge on timings so none of it works.

[Kitchen Gun (TM)]

finally updated the bios to see if that worked, was trying to install for the wrong revision of this mobo the whole time. B650 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.2). Won't know for sure until to morrow morning after waking it up

[Malygos]

Originally posted by Raxacoricofallapatorius:

finally updated the bios to see if that worked, was trying to install for the wrong revision of this mobo the whole time. B650 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.2). Won't know for sure until to morrow morning after waking it up

I tried a few different on my board but it never came back. Be sure to run ram heavy games/ tests after words to make sure it's stable.

[Kitchen Gun (TM)]

Originally posted by Malygos:

Originally posted by Raxacoricofallapatorius:

finally updated the bios to see if that worked, was trying to install for the wrong revision of this mobo the whole time. B650 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.2). Won't know for sure until to morrow morning after waking it up

I tried a few different on my board but it never came back. Be sure to run ram heavy games/ tests after words to make sure it's stable.

I already ran memtest64 dozens of times through my 32GB without errors

[emoticorpse]

disable memory context restore and disable fast startup from within Windows. See if that helps.

[Kitchen Gun (TM)]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

disable memory context restore and disable fast startup from within Windows. See if that helps.

MCR was on auto so i have no idea what setting it was on before, they made that option so damn hard to find

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Raxacoricofallapatorius:

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

disable memory context restore and disable fast startup from within Windows. See if that helps.

MCR was on auto so i have no idea what setting it was on before, they made that option so damn hard to find

Auto is the problem. Disabled is the only way to get my system stable.

[Kitchen Gun (TM)]

Originally posted by emoticorpse:

Originally posted by Raxacoricofallapatorius:

MCR was on auto so i have no idea what setting it was on before, they made that option so damn hard to find

Auto is the problem. Disabled is the only way to get my system stable.

Same problem, complete crash a few hours only after waking up and just watching youtube. I turned this setting on this time.